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Redscarlet

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He hired Collier. I don't know much about him or how much he was paid.

That was also 19 years ago and Basketball Coach’s weren’t making the cash they do now.

He also hired Dave Van Horn...
When he went to A&M he showed he wasn’t afraid to spend money of course I don’t want to get into how more money A&M had over Nebraska, but you get the picture..
 

Harry Caray

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Would love, love, love Matta if his health allows it. Think he'd be a great fit.

Another thing to remember is Matta is very close with Barry Collier, played for and coached under him at Butler. I'm guessing Barry would advise him not to take this job.
 

Ewooc

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That was also 19 years ago and Basketball Coach’s weren’t making the cash they do now.

He also hired Dave Van Horn...
When he went to A&M he showed he wasn’t afraid to spend money of course I don’t want to get into how more money A&M had over Nebraska, but you get the picture..
He had a pretty good stretch at Butler prior to coming to Neb. Then he tanked at neb. Overall he was still just over a .500 career coach. We need to stop hiring these type of guys. If anything Nebraska should have learned is that if a coach is a . 500 career coach prior to coming the Neb odds are they will continue to be a . 500 coach or worse here. We need to dish out the money and go after a proven, tournament experienced coach. Not saying it is realistic or that any coach with that resume will come here, but if we want any chance of Neb to be a competent basketball program we need to try something different than what we have done in the past.
 
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mgbreeze

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Another thing to remember is Matta is very close with Barry Collier, played for and coached under him at Butler. I'm guessing Barry would advise him not to take this job.
"Well Barry, are you gonna pay me $3M to NOT coach in the BIG?" You're probably right, but what does Collier really know about the job at this point anyway? All facilities vastly upgraded, funding upgraded, the rest of it Matta can see for himself better than Collier would know.
 
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Harry Caray

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"Well Barry, are you gonna pay me $3M to NOT coach in the BIG?" You're probably right, but what does Collier really know about the job at this point anyway? All facilities vastly upgraded, funding upgraded, the rest of it Matta can see for himself better than Collier would know.

Matta gets paid almost $2 million next year from Ohio State if he doesn't coach next year. So I personally don't see him coaching next year unless it's somewhere he can win right away. I don't think he has the energy to try and build here with the crap roster he would inherit.

He'll likely return to coaching in 2020 when his buyout ends.
 

schuele

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Matta gets paid almost $2 million next year from Ohio State if he doesn't coach next year. So I personally don't see him coaching next year unless it's a big-time job. He'll likely return to coaching in 2020 when his buyout ends.
Maybe Matta's a super-duper nice guy like Mike Riley and would coach the Huskers next year for $50,001? Winking
 

mgbreeze

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https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/06/thad_matta_back_in_columbus_on.html

This was an interesting article on Matta's mindset, sure sounds like Harry is right that he's not itching for a job. Funny that it mentions that he has to seek comparable employment to get his OSU severance (like Riley) and the author basically says that's boilerplate that no one really cares about. Unlike everyone here who can't sleep because Riley got paid.
 

schuele

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https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/06/thad_matta_back_in_columbus_on.html

This was an interesting article on Matta's mindset, sure sounds like Harry is right that he's not itching for a job. Funny that it mentions that he has to seek comparable employment to get his OSU severance (like Riley) and the author basically says that's boilerplate that no one really cares about. Unlike everyone here who can't sleep because Riley got paid.
I don't mind that Riley got paid. I just would have cut the payments by about $200K after Oregon State announced that he was coming back to be an assistant head coach at a receptionist's salary. It was a complete asshat move on Oregon State's part.
 

newAD

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Matta gets paid almost $2 million next year from Ohio State if he doesn't coach next year. So I personally don't see him coaching next year unless it's somewhere he can win right away. I don't think he has the energy to try and build here with the crap roster he would inherit.

He'll likely return to coaching in 2020 when his buyout ends.

I believe you are right. It would take a hell of an ego override to beat out the 2 million reasons to not take a job.
 

dinglefritz

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He hired Collier. I don't know much about him or how much he was paid.
At the time, Collier looked like a really good hire. What hiring a guy like Collier doesn't account for though is their ability to recruit to NU and you never really know for sure until they have to do it.
 

dinglefritz

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All of these names. The best take I've heard on who Moos might hire was a guy who was an assistant at Oregon when Moos was there. Unfortunately his name escapes me right now.
 

JohnRossEwing

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Another thing to remember is Matta is very close with Barry Collier, played for and coached under him at Butler. I'm guessing Barry would advise him not to take this job.
Why? That was like 20 years ago...Matta is a grown man and has accomplished more than Barry ever has...Everyone that Barry knew (except maybe that Marc B cat) is new.
 
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Ewooc

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I was thinking it was somebody else, but now that I look at his bio he was an assistant at Oregon so that must be it. LOTS of reasons for him to want to come to NU and there's smoke there.
The guy has a history of success everywhere he has been. Has shown to be able to put teams in the tourney. Proven he can get in done in the BIG10. My only concern would be can he recruit to Lincoln. That isn't a knock on him but more so any coach that would come here. Location is a challenge no doubt. Football at least has a historic past to try and draw recruits here. Basketball has nothing.
 
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JohnRossEwing

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The guy has a history of success everywhere he has been. Has shown to be able to put teams in the tourney. Proven he can get in done in the BIG10. My only concern would be can he recruit to Lincoln. That isn't a knock on him but more so any coach that would come here. Location is a challenge no doubt. Football at least has a historic past to try and draw recruits here. Basketball has nothing.

He totally fades near the end of the season (or so it seems like) but in the end he would be an A+ hire and steal.
 
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Harry Caray

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Nana suspended now. Doubt he'll be back next year. The next coach may struggle to field a starting 5 at this rate.

 

HUSKERFAN66

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Byrne offered Bill Self $1million/year in 2000, which back then would have been a Top 20 salary in the nation.

For comparison, Tim Miles is not even in the Top 30 highest paid coaches right now.
Based on results, nor should he.
 

newAD

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Nana suspended now. Doubt he'll be back next year. The next coach may struggle to field a starting 5 at this rate.



 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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I'd bet there's a percentage of CU fans who'd be happy to see HCGM go, and they'd be begging for Devries to come back.
Doesn't make any sense to me. McDermott can coach, dude is a field general and runs a varied attack of offensive sets. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Although I will admit his teams play defense like it's the NBA all star game.
 

newAD

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Doesn't make any sense to me. McDermott can coach, dude is a field general and runs a varied attack of offensive sets. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Although I will admit his teams play defense like it's the NBA all star game.

Right there with you. I like the guy. There's a vocal group who feels the program has topped out where he can take it. Not sure I believe that. Just like Nebraska every one of their conference opponents have a better local recruiting base to draw from.
 

schuele

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I’m in between on McDermott. He gets good but not great talent, and his teams play up to or slightly above that talent level. Though I realize there’s a hard-and-fast rule here that if you enjoy watching Creighton and haven’t convinced yourself that they’re terrible, you’re really just a delusional fanboy and closet Jaysker.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Right there with you. I like the guy. There's a vocal group who feels the program has topped out where he can take it. Not sure I believe that. Just like Nebraska every one of their conference opponents have a better local recruiting base to draw from.
Creighton will never be Villanova or Georgetown like some people aspire it to be. But they can easily be a perennial top 25 team and make it to the 2nd weekend of the dance every once and awhile. McDermott can do that for them.
 

Wasker77

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Need a recruiter.

Talent wins games no matter your x's and o's.

One of the big reasons Gonzaga is so good is because of the great recruiting job by Assistant Coach Tommy Lloyd. Mark Few is a great coach and players love him, but it is Lloyd who gets Few the players.
 

John_J_Rambo

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The thing Isaac Copeland took away most from his time at Nebraska: “Making history is hard.”

No established, successful basketball coach is coming to Nebraska, and if you think money can sway them, you're fooling yourself. There is literally zero reason for any successful P5 coach to leave and come here.

Has to be mid-major, has to be hungry, has to have the onions to do it their way on- and off-court.

Plenty of coaches have risen from these ranks to build powerhouses. Three unsuccessful hires should not steer Moos away from mid-majors looking for a chance to establish themselves in a P5 conference.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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The thing Isaac Copeland took away most from his time at Nebraska: “Making history is hard.”

No established, successful basketball coach is coming to Nebraska, and if you think money can sway them, you're fooling yourself. There is literally zero reason for any successful P5 coach to leave and come here.

Has to be mid-major, has to be hungry, has to have the onions to do it their way on- and off-court.

Plenty of coaches have risen from these ranks to build powerhouses. Three unsuccessful hires should not steer Moos away from mid-majors looking for a chance to establish themselves in a P5 conference.
2nd Post, GTFO troll
 

JohnRossEwing

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The thing Isaac Copeland took away most from his time at Nebraska: “Making history is hard.”

No established, successful basketball coach is coming to Nebraska, and if you think money can sway them, you're fooling yourself. There is literally zero reason for any successful P5 coach to leave and come here.

Has to be mid-major, has to be hungry, has to have the onions to do it their way on- and off-court.

Plenty of coaches have risen from these ranks to build powerhouses. Three unsuccessful hires should not steer Moos away from mid-majors looking for a chance to establish themselves in a P5 conference.

Yeah...money has never swayed anyone to do anything in the history of money.
 

John_J_Rambo

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Yeah...money has never swayed anyone to do anything in the history of money.

*University* money hasn't, you're right.

It may surprise you to know while the best coaches in the country may pay their bills with their university salaries, they buy their 2nd/3rd homes and retire from benefits companies like Nike, Adidas, Under Armour and myriad development programs provide.

$5M at Nebraska is *not* the same as $5M at a traditional basketball school.

Wake up.
 

JohnRossEwing

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*University* money hasn't, you're right.

It may surprise you to know while the best coaches in the country may pay their bills with their university salaries, they buy their 2nd/3rd homes and retire from benefits companies like Nike, Adidas, Under Armour and myriad development programs provide.

$5M at Nebraska is *not* the same as $5M at a traditional basketball school.

Wake up.
It doesn't surprise me at all, why would it?

You changed your argument once you got called out to "University" money, because you knew you messed up your sad argument. I get it, I would have done the same exact thing that you did. But don't get all crabby about it.

Saban makes amazing money...but he makes even amazinger money because the boosters pay off his crazy sweet lake mansion. I get it, I do.

But what you should have done, instead of trying to call me out, was simply say you made a mistake and what you meant was "Just University money isn't enough"

Now...rank your top 3 Top Gun dudes:

Mine:

3. Goose
2. Ice Man
1. Slider (that volleyball scene where he flexes is badass and was the reason that I started working out...for like 4 days...it was too much work for me)
 

John_J_Rambo

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It doesn't surprise me at all, why would it?

You changed your argument once you got called out to "University" money, because you knew you messed up your sad argument. I get it, I would have done the same exact thing that you did. But don't get all crabby about it.

Saban makes amazing money...but he makes even amazinger money because the boosters pay off his crazy sweet lake mansion. I get it, I do.

But what you should have done, instead of trying to call me out, was simply say you made a mistake and what you meant was "Just University money isn't enough"

I clarified my position in response to your comment. Of course (insert amount of money)/year would get any coach to NU. Many apologies.

Back to the subject at hand, NU has a chance to offer a mid-major coach on the rise the chance to ride the Coach Frost/football renaissance wave & it'd be foolish to pursue Bruce Weber or someone similar, given its shortcomings compared to their current respective programs, instead.

The Buffalo coach would be a huge get IMO.

GBR
 
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