And only one of those Major Bowls or New Years 6 Bowls Iowa has won..
Major accomplishment let’s us all here give you Herkys a round of applause..
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And only one of those Major Bowls or New Years 6 Bowls Iowa has won..
Major accomplishment let’s us all here give you Herkys a round of applause..
Urban beat Forst by 5, what's your point?
C'mon now one minute they are playing tough ball, look more like a 10 win team, hung with OSU, yada yada. Now Iowa beat a terrible UNL team with a first year HC, so which is it?
OSU was definitely down this year.
Iowa needed a last second FG to beat a 4-7 team at home in year 1. That's sad
K, so taking the side of Nebraska was bad all year. Got it. No longer can say they hung with OSU because they were down. Anyone else have thoughts?
Seriously, why would you waste the time post all of this on a Husker board? People around here ***** about top 20 classes. No one cares about iowa recruiting, you aren't going to impress anyone here. Good for you if you are happy about it though.
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They were Iowa bad. Compared to Riley bad, they were great.
Iowa peaked
I think you're an idiot. I really don't know wtf you are trying to argue. You started by trashing the Big 8 by the way, if that helps. Carry on tho, it's some funny ****.
This is good. One of your own took the stance as Nebraska was bad all year & I know for a fact some of you will not admit that. Who else here thinks Nebraska was a bad 4-8 team all year? This could be poll worthy.
Lol, that got you in a bind. Which was it? Potential ten win team with some bad breaks, or just a bad 4-8 year that Iowa beat.
I never said a potential 10 win team.
Nebraska was their own worst enemy for most of the year. Lost a lot of close games due to penalties and inefficiency at times.
At the end of the year they were much more cohesive but still reeling from lack of playmakers and depth, especially on defense. It set a good foundation for next year.
What was Iowa's excuse for yet another average season?
I believe my post said beyond 2019. The Cats already have hit two of their targets for 2021. We're usually ranked somewhere in the 40s. The Rivals rankings depend partially on quantity as well as quality of recruit, so a school bringing in 23-24 players, typical in the SEC for example, is always going to have a leg up on on an 18-19 player Northwestern class, even when we hit four-star guys. And once you get past the top 15 or so programs who are bringing in most of the five-star guys and a lot of the four-stars, how accurate really are these rankings? Is the 30th ranked class really better than No. 39, or even No. 50 for that matter. If you believe rankings over the years, Northwestern probably should have been last or second to last in the standings every year. That hasn't happened — not even close. I have a lot of respect for the Nebraska programs and expect the Huskers, along with the rest of our division, will be upping their game the next few years. Obviously, Nebraska has a great football history and fan base. I hope our teams can get to a level where we take down the big 3 in the East once in a while and shut them up.
I think it's fair to say that both Iowa and Northwestern overachieve based on recruiting ranking. In my opinion, that's because they have a solid coaching staff and consistency in training methods, and they play tough hard-nosed football, which never goes out of style. In addition, they identify some diamonds-in-the-rough that turn out to be All-Americans.
Nebraska hasn't had that sort of consistency of philosophy and purpose for at least 15 years, so we've seen some down years, particularly in the last four seasons. When Nebraska had that sort of consistency and hard-nosed philosophy, we won national championships. We're hoping that this new coaching staff will bring both, and if they can continue to out-recruit Iowa and Northwestern, we'll finally have that advantage over those programs — for the first time since we joined the Big Ten.
Unfortunately for us, it's still all on paper. Let's hope it translates onto the field sooner rather than later. SOME Iowa fans are insufferable. NW fans are cool. You have to be to wear purple.
true but you ignore they were beat by a team made up of FR, RSFR, SO, RSSO and true JR's. they will be returning a 1st Team AA by the AP. 1 2nd team AA and the Mackey Award winner in TE RSSO Hockenson/ 1st Team AA/
6 All BT players. of those 6 There is only one RSSR that is leaving.
Nebraska's best players are young as well. Most of the recruited upper classmen transfered out the last few years.
Isn't Fant a junior? Or he wasn't all BIG 10? I think you need to move along chief.
the game is won in the trenches and this is where Iowa is getting their 4* and 1 5* player
RT Wirfs 4* US Army AA SO
LT Kallenberg 4* RSFR
Incoming
OL Miller 4*
OL Endres 4*
DE Epenesa 5* US Army AA
DT Linderbaum US Army AA 3* RS'd
DE Waggoner 4* RS'd
DT JUCO Top 50 Nixon
not a DL but
4* by 247 US Army AA OLB Jacobs
DB's
4* CB Brents startec this last fall as a true FR.
4* S Cradieth RS'd
QB Petras 4* QB out of California.
the recruiting is improving and it is going National in recruiting.
Iowa is not growing stagnant nor is it going fall back.
NW just had a 5* QB transfer in from Clemson. teams in the West are all improving the level of talent that they are bringing in.
RT Wirfs 4* US Army AA SO
LT Kallenberg 4* RSFR
Incoming
OL Miller 4*
OL Endres 4*
DE Epenesa 5* US Army AA
DT Linderbaum US Army AA 3* RS'd
DE Waggoner 4* RS'd
DT JUCO Top 50 Nixon
not a DL but
4* by 247 US Army AA OLB Jacobs
DB's
4* CB Brents startec this last fall as a true FR.
4* S Cradieth RS'd
QB Petras 4* QB out of California.
the recruiting is improving and it is going National in recruiting.
Iowa is not growing stagnant nor is it going fall back.
NW just had a 5* QB transfer in from Clemson. teams in the West are all improving the level of talent that they are bringing in.
Fant was a 3rd Team AA and All BT but he is going Pro this spring. so no I didn't forget Fant as he is not coming back and this is about who is coming back
I liked how Iowa got pushed around on D. Looked like Nebraska's D. Laughing
Talent in the West looks to be getting better. But Iowa runs the stone-age schemes
You just said you had 6 all B10 players and only a rs senior was leaving. You don't have any 1st team AP AA's returning either. I'm done, thanks for the laughs.
The guy you’re responding too isn’t worth your energy. He is an outcast on Iowa boards who has been banned under probably a dozen usernames. Trust me, it’s better to put him on ignore.
I don't think Frosty would call any of that pushing around. Hit some big sideline plays and converted 4, 4th downs. 3 of which were 4th & 2 or greater. Kudos to that, but Iowa did a nice job that game. Frost even admitted in post game Iowa could've hit the kill shot a couple of times, one on the 3rd n 2 called and fake FG, the other allowing a 4th and long fake punt. He also stated Iowa is a lot stronger & more physical, so there was no pushing around by anything Nebraska did that day.
What SF stated was a reflection of the previous 3 years with Mike Riley and strengh and conditioning coach Mark Philipp were the players had to accountability in the weight room and hadn’t played the physical football that Nebraska brand once was and will be there again..
This will be our 2 winter under Zach Duval with accountability ad you will be seeing a change in the future with strength and physicality..No more sprinkles and Ice Cream like with the Riley staff..
But reading this board throughout the season - and again, I live here and have friends and family that root for Nebraska so I like to keep up with the goings on of the Huskers - it seemed like "This wasn't the same Nebraska team the last half of the season as it was the first half." So which is it? Was it a greatly improved Nebraska team Iowa beat on Black Friday that was able to take OSU to the wire in the Horseshoe and hold MSU to 6 points the week before, or was it a bad 4-7 Nebraska team that didn't improve throughout the year? And if it was the latter - Nebraska was 4-7 and didn't improve an iota from Mike Reilly's 4 win season the year before... What exactly is it Iowa fans are supposed to be so nervous about again?
It was greatly improved from Mike Riley and the beginning of the season but not even close to the final Frost product
FIFY.
If Iowa fan is going to be on this board, the very least they could do is post a novel or original thought. Iowa will occasionally be the better team, but never the better program. Nebraska gets better recruits due partly to the storied Nebraska football history and Iowa occasionally gets a decent recruit in spite of its pitiful mediocre history.
Let me guess: 8-4? Awesome.
Iowa held Nebraska to its third lowest offensive output with Martinez as QB, a lot lower than most of Nebraska’s other games. I’m confused how Iowa got pushed around?
And without leading receiver JD Spielman playing, need to figure that into the equation
Oh snap, now you did it. Using facts is not a good idea when discussing football with Iowa fan. I’ve had money on Iowa going 8-5 since June so unfortunately I have to root against our big ten friends this bowl season. Iowa was good to my non traditional retirement fund this season, I bet against them 4 times and including the Nebraska game and won all 4. Betting on them to go 8-5 wasn’t exactly going out on a limb, but I did bet it in June.
What you say is true, however, it has provided a baseline on recruiting as far as the B1G west. Attrition, especially during a transition year, is an anomaly to the overall recruiting. I believe most teams see it after coaching turnover.
I think our "talent" is average for the B1G west because of the attrition, but signing better talent has been established.
so did I, but I was going off the fact that Iowa was replacing all 3 LB'rs one a 1st Team AA in MLB 2* Jewel a 3 year full time starter who is now starting for the Green Packers
OLB 2* Nieman another 3 year starter and is now starting for the Chiefs
WLB Bower another 3 year starter
1st Team AA CB 2* Jackson as a true JR was a 2nd round draft pick and is starting for the Packers
C 4* Daniels who left as a true JR 2nd round draft pick and now a starter for the Bears.
that was a lot of talent that left the 2017 team.
to the poster who said Iowa does not return a 1st Team AA, that is false as TE 2* Hockenson is returning.
the difference now they are getting high 3* and low 4* players and I am looking forward to seeing how they do with 3*/4* players vs 2* players.
since KF took over they have a avg of 45.7 class recruiting ranking and yet they have
2 shared BT Championships
1 BT West Division Title
2 8-0 BT finishes
5 top 10 finishes
1 #20 finish
7-8 in bowl games
3 losing records in the regular season
1-10 1st year
3-8 2nd year
4-8 in 2012.
7-5 vs Michigan
8-6 vs PSU
Wisconsin it even
MSU its even
only OSU has a big advantage [but don't they have that vs BT teams] I came here to talk about the future not the past
FnA buddy, looks like a playoff team to me. Look out bama.
Attrition is attrition. Yes it may be more during a coaching transition, but when you add 25 plus players per year to a roster, there is always going to be attrition. Chryst just finished his 4th year at Wisconsin, I would bet he still has attrition, same with Ferentz.
I will have a little time this evening. I will do my best to throw a quick spreadsheet together, just because I am curious. And I despise a job half done.....ha ha ha