Im confident that Moos will make a good decision. But as far as the fans go how can anyone who has watched this team get consistently pushed around by nearly every opponent still be on board with MR? I think hes a great guy. But as a coach hes average at best. His teams are soft and spend to much time thinking. They have no killer instinct. And I dont believe for one second that MR demands excellence. Meyer looked like he wanted to kill someone after an OSU false start. Because he demands excellence. So does Saban and there are others. Im not saying fire MR today. But this thing is over and thats before what will likely be 4 more losses. 3 if were lucky. Bottom line a new coach is a gamble. The current coach is a disaster.
Seriously what is the point here
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Duhhhhhhh if they are 8-0 he wouldn't be making up rumors of death threats........They are firing him to save themselves a **** ton of money. He gave them a reason and they took it.
Just an observation but I find it ironic that you have a Donald Trump "make America great again" in your signature line but are so conservative with taking a chance on making "nebraska" great again.
Since when do we have expectations on a message board not to discuss anything that isn't within our control?
I'm not sure who you talk to on a daily basis but my business puts me in contact with a little of common fans. It was always a 50-50 at best of people who believed in Mike Riley. Many of them said they would take a wait and see. That was prior to this year. From the ones we see it is clearly a majority that have said they have seen enough. Everyone says he is a nice guy and mean him no bad feelings. They just don't believe he should be here any longer.
So after 3 years of working under Cav we are still blaming Bo for the productivity of the line. Gotcha.
First of all it hasn't been a full 3 years of working under Cav. Secondly, where's the upperclassmen in the 2 deep we've always leaned on? I agree that I would like to see more progress there, but don't kid yourself, Bo's staff is at least partly responsible for our deficiency of upperclassmen contributors.
If you listen to today’s interview with Moos on 93.7 you may change your tune. He all but said the fan base has moved on from Riley. MR is a dead man walking.
His "NU isn't use to getting blown out like Ohio State did" caught my attention.
Moos may want to familiarize himself before stating stuff like that. We've been getting our asses kicked twice a year dating back to 2002, sans a season or two.
Did you listen to it? Moos didn’t pull any punches on what the majority of fans are saying about Riley. Sipple even worded the question so he had an “out” if he didn’t want to go into the negativity. Bill Moos “perception” was pretty clear.
Most fans will never be used to that. It’s a good thing.
I've listened to Moos multiple times and he doesn't say anything that callers don't already say on Sports Nightly. He's aware of what some are saying. The issue is painting the entire fan base with that brush.
Moos is the one doing the painting and based on his interview today he’s hearing nothing good from fans. He was very difinitive, which surprised me given I thought he’d be more measured.
I think definitive to you means that you hear what you want to hear in his words.
That isn't how he stated it though, it's as if Nebraska football hasn't been thumped like that before. And he's wrong, it's happened multiple times under the last 4 coaches (Frank, Bill, Bo and Mike).
Good overall interview though from the little I listened.
That’s a new definition. It sounds like you have not listened to the interview - he made some very specific statements about how fans generally felt. I was surprised how negative he went saying those.
I think the most interesting thing he said was that he would recommend staff changes if he thought it was necessary because ultimately he is their boss as well. In the past it seems most ADs have tried to stay out of a coach's particular staff publically and let them sink or float on their own...
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Actually, I think they probably do GAF what our paying customers have to say, you know since we...uh...help pay for the program and all. And since we are 4-4 in Riley's 3rd season, with a loss to Northern Illinois, the aforementioned 3 probably feel the exact same way the OP does.
There's less than 20 people's opinions they GAF about and not one of them are posting on the Husker Online message board.
And especially not you, not the OP, not me, not a single damn person on here.
But go ahead and pretend your opinion matters.
He openly repeats what he hears on the call in shows. Why is that surprising. He isn't an idiot. He's showing that he knows the tenor of the conversation which is largely negative. That factors in to his decision and some may be correct that the decision has already been made. We'll find out in a few weeks for sure.
Even Tom recommended staff changes to Bo. That after he had put things in Bo's contract to discourage any control by an AD.
Wrong. They most certainly do care about what the masses say. Especially when they are paying top dollar for seats, and top dollar for the Champions Club. Sure, we don't have the pull of the big donors, but they still listen to the masses. We still represent millions of dollars of donations.
They care if the stadium is empty for a second half or if fans are tuning out. Of course the individual fan has very little impact on decisions but overall the fan collective controls everything. To think that the fan base is still supporting Riley is delusional, the fans want a change
Right. I edited my post to say publically. Obviously I think those kind of things happen in every athletic department, but it just doesn't sound like those things are ever really publicized because it can come off as the AD micromanaging the department.
That is the perception of most of the fan base. You are the exception.....not us.
Two different things. Of course they'll listen to the masses, or everyone for this matter, that's natural as part of the job. However, the masses have zero pull on decisions. It's less than 20 people that make the decision and that's not gonna change anytime soon.
Think what you want, even though it's wrong.
"Nebraska earned the bulk of its money, about $40.7 million, from rights and licensing deals. NU also hauled in about $36.6 million from ticket sales and saw $19.6 million come in from contributions."
LOL, I would say we have 'just a bit' of pull when we represent over a third of the athletic department budget, and nearly twice that of big donors. Try again..
OK, at the risk of extreme criticism, I'll add my 2 cents worth. Nebraska must get back to physical football. The next coach must be like Broehm of Purdue and demand that we become the more physical team on the field every game. We literally got beat up Sat. by a team way less athletic, and that has been happening far too often with Iowa, Wisc, NW, even Minny during Jerry Kill's coaching. We don't need the dainty little WR's from Cally as much as we need the Bulldozer 2 star linemen from the Midwest, and a few big strong RB's. Only a blindman could miss the glaring deficiencies of our OL. (Personally, I think we should offer a few more instate linemen, unless there are no choices). Something is wrong with strength & conditioning. We seem to have more injuries than 3 teams, and the OL do not look like they are excelling in the weight room (see Gates who has regressed since he has been here). I would hope the new coach would consider keeping JP, and the Williams boys for recruiting purposes, but a good coach will have/know of good assistants. Even a coach like Navy's (don't ask me to spell his name) - has built a tough culture like we need here, but it doesn't have to be him of course. Love to see us go back to Husker tough.
You just supported my stance without realizing it. Keep doing you Du, this time it was quicker than normal.
I think most of the $19.6 million is coming from the 20 people he is talking about.
Of course those 20 people are either custodians of the program or rich superfans of it. And a thought just popped into my head. Not to re-litigate Frank, but did Stevie P go off road on his firinig, or were the "20 people" down with the idea of canning a 9 win coach the day after a victory over a key rival. That event is key in the fracturing of the fansbase.
The "20 people" are not always, really never, on the same page. So yes, a group of the "20 people" were very much behind the canning of a 9 win coach
It's pretty obvious with SP, and your last sentence is quite possibly the best one posted on this forum in years.
How can you write this:
And "Like" this:
The two statements seem incongruent. Unless of course, the 20 people are the ones on the call in shows setting the negative tenor of the conversation.
And "Like" this:
The two statements seem incongruent. Unless of course, the 20 people are the ones on the call in shows setting the negative tenor of the conversation.
I haven't lived in NE for nearly 30 years and wasn't paying particular close attention to the events of the program in late 2003. I remember being a bit surprised that Frank got canned. I thought the CU win had put any HC change to bed, at least for the season. Obviously people weren't happy with some things at the time. The fact that the team couldn't get any traction in the games against TX and KSU was disappointing. But that disappointment looks quaint and perhaps even a bit precious at the present time.
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