Just got a text from Entergy to
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Got the same from NEMS. Someone sent me a text about natural gas companies warning customers to conserve too. I'm burning about 2 to 3% of my propane tank per day during this at $4 a 17ing gallon but I'll take the trade off this time for having some energy independence.
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They normally give me a recorded call
when they expects damage and outages. And I generally see a large number of their trucks assemble in the the
Walmart parking lot. I'm not an abusive user.
No messages this time.
when they expects damage and outages. And I generally see a large number of their trucks assemble in the the
Walmart parking lot. I'm not an abusive user.
No messages this time.
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Everybody ready to have electric cars???!!!**
(This is a joke so cool your jets....you know who you are.)
(This is a joke so cool your jets....you know who you are.)
Same here but I would have thought we would have been more likely to get one of these messages on a 100 degree day in July.
Lithium ion in my tools definitelyyyy doesn't like this level of cold. Learned quick to bring whatever batteries I was likely to need inside.
Still trying to figure out
how to tow something of any weight.
Any reasonable distance.
how to tow something of any weight.
Any reasonable distance.
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Helping the environment is a distant 2nd best (and in some cases even 3rd or 4th best) benefit to probably 80% of people who purchase electric cars.
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I have one as a primary car. Not for some “green” agenda, but because it is the best car I ever owned. I leave the garage and don’t think twice about having to stop for a charge unless I on a road trip. Although we aren’t getting ice in Atlanta, I would have been fully charged before being asked to cut back on power. Ironically, I have also had the similar thoughts about ice cars when I have seen the gas lines during a hurricane evacuation. Guess who was not stuck in those lines?
I am not claiming that EV’s are perfect and for everybody, but after 2.5 years and almost 30,000 miles (much of it road trips) I as of yet, have no desire to go back to an ice car.
It seems like there is still a lot of misconceptions about how, when and how much the newer generation cars are charged. With a 300 mile range, I only use about 75 of that a day when I commute. It takes less than 3 hours to top off during off peak hours (11p to 7a) in my garage.
I wonder how many people using fuel oil to heat their homes are saying “I don’t want one of those electric heat pumps” due to an outlier event like this?
The craziest thing about the mess in TX is going to be the electric bills some people get. Because of electricity deregulation you can get your electricity from one of 50+ retail electric providers in most of the state. To be more competitive, some plans are variable and you pay the wholesale rate per KWH at the live price. Which is cool until demand spikes and production drops by 30%. Now your electricity cost goes up 300x.
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I had a neighbor bragging last summer that he was paying $.03/KWH. Well early am Monday that wholesale rate got up to $9.00/kwh and his power company deducted $170 from his bank account for the electricity for the day. He cut his main breaker off and said he knows of another guy that got hit for $500 for the day because the idiot was mining for crypto.
Most people are getting 30 minutes on/30 minutes off. But others I have talked to have not had power for 18+ hours. Some elderly folks will die because of this mess.
It's not just wind that is failing, if it was it be a whole lot better. Natural gas fired plants are going offline too. Natural gas is being diverted to homes for heating and there is not enough capacity to run some of the power plants.
Coal plants are tripping because they are old as 17 and the equipment to run the plant is failing. Even some nuclear in TX is tripping offline because it was built to run in high temps not single digit cold temps.
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2021/02/15/dallas-winter-storm-freeze.html
This happened in 2013 too. There are all kinds of issues at play, but the biggest thing is growth. Texas has grown by nearly 50% in 20 years. Infrastructure problems are everywhere. Wait until the next drought hits. Fools are going to be filtering pool water to take showers.
We got sick of it and moved a few months ago. Our kids elementary school went from 500 students to 700 in 2 years and our neighborhood got rezoned to a new school that was built this past year. I have a friend who had twins that are now in 6th grade. They went to 3 different elementary schools in K-5 because of rezoning due to growth. In 2000 our district had 1 high school. By next year it will have 12. All of them Texas 5a or about as big as Tupelo High School... That's just in Dallas, Austin is growing even faster percentage wise and after coronavirus, Austin is going to get horrible.
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I had a neighbor bragging last summer that he was paying $.03/KWH. Well early am Monday that wholesale rate got up to $9.00/kwh and his power company deducted $170 from his bank account for the electricity for the day. He cut his main breaker off and said he knows of another guy that got hit for $500 for the day because the idiot was mining for crypto.
Most people are getting 30 minutes on/30 minutes off. But others I have talked to have not had power for 18+ hours. Some elderly folks will die because of this mess.
It's not just wind that is failing, if it was it be a whole lot better. Natural gas fired plants are going offline too. Natural gas is being diverted to homes for heating and there is not enough capacity to run some of the power plants.
Coal plants are tripping because they are old as 17 and the equipment to run the plant is failing. Even some nuclear in TX is tripping offline because it was built to run in high temps not single digit cold temps.
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2021/02/15/dallas-winter-storm-freeze.html
This happened in 2013 too. There are all kinds of issues at play, but the biggest thing is growth. Texas has grown by nearly 50% in 20 years. Infrastructure problems are everywhere. Wait until the next drought hits. Fools are going to be filtering pool water to take showers.
We got sick of it and moved a few months ago. Our kids elementary school went from 500 students to 700 in 2 years and our neighborhood got rezoned to a new school that was built this past year. I have a friend who had twins that are now in 6th grade. They went to 3 different elementary schools in K-5 because of rezoning due to growth. In 2000 our district had 1 high school. By next year it will have 12. All of them Texas 5a or about as big as Tupelo High School... That's just in Dallas, Austin is growing even faster percentage wise and after coronavirus, Austin is going to get horrible.
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So, how would a trip from my house in the Golden Triangle area to my in laws house in Destin go? They are 355 miles away. I've got to stop ~ 50 miles from my destination at who knows where to hang out while I run a cord to my car? A 5 1\2 hr trip then turns into how long a trip? On the return trip, 30 minutes from the Triangle, where am I going to "fill up" along hwy 45 N, Macon, Artesia, Crawford, Scooba? Doubtful. No thanks
Also depends on weight (people and luggage) in the car, how fast you drive and the outside temperature. You know, little things the manufacturers don't bring up. You may be stopping a 150 miles from your destination. **
Great to hear that you are rocking. Let this ice go a little farther north and it is my suspicion you would be struggling, depending on where you live on the 4 County System. It is a great system but there are some weather conditions that even the best of systems struggle with. All you can do then is be patient and rely on the system to be restored!
I know you're joking but thought this was cool...
Will Your EV Keep the Lights On When the Grid Goes Down?
Home battery systems can help during power outages. So can the battery packs rolling around in electric vehicles.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/will-your-ev-keep-the-lights-on-when-the-grid-goes-down
So yeah, he's got to stop for 45 minutes in Meridian on a 355 mile drive. Then spend another 45 minutes at a charging station in Destin (which may or may not be convenient to do), then another 45 in Meridian on the way home. Turns a 6 hour drive into a 7 hour drive.
I don’t have one yet, but it should only be 25 minutes charging. The trip times really depend on how often someone would normally stop anyway. A driver that only stops to top off quickly and doesn’t even pee inside will definitely take longer with an EV. A family with kids that was planning to stop for bathroom breaks and lunch anyway might take the same time.
“Might” take about the same time. If the cities with charging stations are conveniently spaced for your route. And the times line up so you need to fill up & eat at the same time. And the places you’d like to eat happen to be the places with chargers. Not saying it can’t be done, but that a lot of timing to coordinate. Honestly, if my primary was an EV, I’d probably just rent a car for trips.
So, with our style of driving, road trips are not an issue for the most part. Traveling with 2 girls requires a bathroom break every couple of hours so we time them at Superchargers whether we need to charge or not.
If you are anywhere close to an interstate, the SC are spaced about 150 miles or so. So there isn’t really a need to top off, so the charging just didn’t take that much time to allow you to get to the next stop.
Even from the north side of Atlanta to Destin is easy. We hit Auburn and take a break. By the time we are out of the turlet, we have plenty to make it to the SC at the border. Another short break there and we are good go. If our rental has 110v, we will charge there, but it is required.
If you are road tripping on back roads or areas where there are not any fast chargers or you can’t destination charge overnight, that would be a problem. Fast chargers are popping up all over the places though, so the flexibility will only increase.
As range increases closer to 4 to 500 miles, that makes it even easier.
Like I said, it may not make sense depending on how much you road trip and where you road trip, but it works for us and I wouldn’t think twice about hitting the road from Atlanta to Dallas tomorrow. (Sans the snow ��)
If you are anywhere close to an interstate, the SC are spaced about 150 miles or so. So there isn’t really a need to top off, so the charging just didn’t take that much time to allow you to get to the next stop.
Even from the north side of Atlanta to Destin is easy. We hit Auburn and take a break. By the time we are out of the turlet, we have plenty to make it to the SC at the border. Another short break there and we are good go. If our rental has 110v, we will charge there, but it is required.
If you are road tripping on back roads or areas where there are not any fast chargers or you can’t destination charge overnight, that would be a problem. Fast chargers are popping up all over the places though, so the flexibility will only increase.
As range increases closer to 4 to 500 miles, that makes it even easier.
Like I said, it may not make sense depending on how much you road trip and where you road trip, but it works for us and I wouldn’t think twice about hitting the road from Atlanta to Dallas tomorrow. (Sans the snow ��)
No problems with capacity up here in TVA land. They tweeted out that they are operating well below capacity.
Centerpoint sent me message asking to cut thermostat to 60-65....
asked me for 60-65......so i cut all 3 to 65 and fired up my gas fireplace.....nice and toasty.
asked me for 60-65......so i cut all 3 to 65 and fired up my gas fireplace.....nice and toasty.
During this historic winter storm, Atmos Energy urges you to reduce energy use. Follow these energy-saving tips http://www.atmosenergy.com/wintersafety
Have been looking at non-Tesla options for the $7K tax credit, but that I-20 stretch is the thing stopping me. Right now you can’t get directly to ATL or Dallas from Jackson unless you have a Tesla. Waiting to see if Congress modifies the credit, or if more chargers get added in the next year.
I got the same email from entergy. I leave my thermostat on 65 anyways. So I dropped down to 60 and got the fire place (wood) going. Got the water facets dripping.
All this is really making me rethink retirement in Montana.
All this is really making me rethink retirement in Montana.
The power issues aren’t really caused by growth. We’ve had growth throughout our history and managed to create Reliable electricity for it. We’ve just chosen to not create new reliable capacity or even to properly maintain our reliable electricity beCause it makes people feel good to spend money on nondispatchable capacity and pretend that you don’t have to have didpatchable capacity to meet load.
ETA: the lack of pipeline capacity is another issue but the result of similar magical thinking.
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That's what mine said. I have only been using gas to help with power grid. I am thinking that is why CenterPoint sent the message. They probably have plenty of gas just trying to help electric companies out.
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