Finally someone has respect for another man's opinion.

[tatedog]

I'm impressed, guys. For a preseason anthem protest thread we are displaying week 4 regular season form.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Actually it’s 25% black men of the over all likelihood to die at the hands of police since 2015.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

... Are you serious? Even right-wing sources covered this. https://www.foxbusiness.com/feature...-complete-1m-donation-pledge-to-social-causes

If that's not good enough for you, all you have to do is Google:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kaepernick+donations

I'm pretty mystified why you'd think I would make something up like this. If it weren't true, it would be very easy to disprove.

I usually give money too when I don’t care enough about the cause to commit to changing it and only want to placate

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

My biggest worry

Dak has put a target on his chest. The pro-kneeling crowd in the NFL are a pretty vindictive bunch, and I can see them taking cheap shots at Dak...especially the Filthydelphia Fagles, who blew off the Legitimately Elected President of Our United States Donald J. Trump.

When Derek Carr of the Oakland Faiders criticized the kneelers, his offensive line "let" the defensive players get a free shot on him, crippling him for 3/4th's of the season.

 

[Villagedawg]

They could, certainly. But if it got taken to court, can you say for certain who would win? The private employers right to at will employment or the employers first amendment right? I bet several years ago no one thought forcing someone to say the pledge would be ruled unconstitutional.

My point is, there is a reason why a NFL player has not been “fired” for doing this yet. There is enough gray area that I don’t think anyone wants to go there.

It it was ruled unconstitutional for public schools in 1943. West Virginia State Board of Education vs. Barnett.

"One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

What’s funny to me is that all these ghetto millionaires now have homes in gated communities with security guards to protect them from the very same elements that they expect the police to coddle and give the benefit of the doubt to knowing that history says they’re likely to be in danger.

 

[Villagedawg]

Serious question: The employer can tell them they can't make a political protest or statement (kneel) at work while at the same time the employer can compel them to make an employer-supported political statement (stand) at work?

 

[Bcash2]

Just wondering if, anthem aside, any of the, im assuming all white, dudes in this thread have ever bothered to ask a black man or woman what its like being black in this country? I sure know I’m guilty of forming opinions based soley off of my world view and experience, without actually considering the other sides perspective. Its hard not to. Most of you guys live in the south, elbow to elbow with many black people. Id ask someone that youre friends with their opinion and get their perspective, before forming your own. The whole country could stand to do a lot more of that these days.

 

[BossDawg78]

Just wondering if, anthem aside, any of the, im assuming all white, dudes in this thread have ever bothered to ask a black man or woman what its like being black in this country? I sure know I’m guilty of forming opinions based soley off of my world view and experience, without actually considering the other sides perspective. Its hard not to. Most of you guys live in the south, elbow to elbow with many black people. Id ask someone that youre friends with their opinion and get their perspective, before forming your own. The whole country could stand to do a lot more of that these days.

Yeah, ask Dr. Ben Carson, Obama, Oprah, or any of these millionaire drama queen athletes what it's like. Looks like they are living much better lives than the average white person is. Given all the minorities in positions of power TODAY (doctors, lawyers, police officers, military officers, athletes, rappers, politicians), one has to wonder if their "oppression" is self-inflicted and not systemic. I'm sure there are many white people, too, who will sit down and give you an earful on how they feel the government isn't doing enough to help them. See, that's what most people don't get: this is a two-way street. But to act like your race is THE REASON you aren't successful in the United States RIGHT NOW is just damn crazy, and it should be insulting for both sides to use that excuse. As a white male, it's incredibly insulting to basically be reminded daily that you were practically born with wads of cash in your hand and that YOU are the reason some blacks can't get ahead in life, despite the millions of minorities living comfortable lives as we speak.

Only in America will you find some millionaire who has everything climb his or her ivory tower so they can bellyache about how America is so "oppressive".

(Once again, yes, I know, I know...that makes me a racist Nazi white supremacist fascist.)

 

[DAWG61]

"Legitimately elected President of Our United States Donald J. Trump"

 

[Bcash2]

I’ll take that as a “no”.

Yeah, ask Dr. Ben Carson, Obama, Oprah, or any of these millionaire drama queen athletes what it's like. Looks like they are living much better lives than the average white person is. Given all the minorities in positions of power TODAY (doctors, lawyers, police officers, military officers, athletes, rappers, politicians), one has to wonder if their "oppression" is self-inflicted and not systemic. I'm sure there are many white people, too, who will sit down and give you an earful on how they feel the government isn't doing enough to help them. See, that's what most people don't get: this is a two-way street. But to act like your race is THE REASON you aren't successful in the US RIGHT NOW is just damn crazy, and it should be insulting for both sides to use that excuse. As a white male, it's incredibly insulting to basically be reminded daily that you were practically born with wads of cash in your hand and that YOU are the reason some blacks can't get ahead in life, despite the millions of minorities living comfortable lives as we speak.

(Once again, yes, I know, I know...that makes me a racist Nazi white supremacist fascist.)

nm

 

[BossDawg78]

You'll take it as a "no" simply because I didn't fall in line with where you were wanting to go with that.

 

[tatedog]

Just wondering if, anthem aside, any of the, im assuming all white, dudes in this thread have ever bothered to ask a black man or woman what its like being black in this country? I sure know I’m guilty of forming opinions based soley off of my world view and experience, without actually considering the other sides perspective. Its hard not to. Most of you guys live in the south, elbow to elbow with many black people. Id ask someone that youre friends with their opinion and get their perspective, before forming your own. The whole country could stand to do a lot more of that these days.

I have done exactly this, and found black friends to be mostly full of ****, just like white friends amazingly enough.

 

[skydawg1]

"Legitimately elected President of Our United States Donald J. Trump"

Yep, he won the electoral college. Done deal. Popular vote means nothing, thanks to our brilliant FF's.

 

[Bcash2]

You'll take it as a "no" simply because I didn't fall in line with where you were wanting to go with that.

I took that as a “no” because rather than answering a honest question, one in which i admitted my own faults, in an adult manner, you opted to type out some incoherent rant like a total dipshit. You could have just said “no, I’ve not done that”

 

[BossDawg78]

I took that as a “no” because rather than answering a honest question, one in which i admitted my own faults, in an adult manner, you opted to type out some incoherent rant like a total dipshit. You could have just said “no, I’ve not done that”

What was incoherent about my "rant"? A simple answer like "no, I've not done that" has never pacified someone who was obviously trying to establish a narrative right off the bat. Where you were wanting to go with your post was painfully obvious.

 

[Bcash2]

Fair enough.

I have done exactly this, and found black friends to be mostly full of ****, just like white friends amazingly enough.

Nm

 

[Bcash2]

I hope it was obvious where I was going with it, because I stated it pretty clearly in the post. Here it is again:

“I’d ask someone that you’re friends with their opinion and get their perspective, before forming your own. The whole country could stand to do a lot more of that these days.”