Cal just can't help himself

[VaxxedObamaCat]

Yes the complexities of a zone that none of you could possibly have ever known about through playing in youth, coaching, playing a video game, etc You all are just too dumb and couldn’t possibly know anything about basketball whatsoever other than a basket either counts for two or three points.

Cal despises the fans and the media.

 

[richbrookstomato]

Ohh, which week was this?

The initial benny lineup had Livingston at the 4.

Livingston at the 4 was ONLY in a BACKUP role to Toppin. And AGAIN that was BEFORE CJ's injury.

Stop making MORE excuses for your DADDY.

Add another gold chain to your collection, Brad.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Yes the complexities of a zone that none of you could possibly have ever known about through playing in youth, coaching, playing a video game, etc You all are just too dumb and couldn’t possibly know anything about basketball whatsoever other than a basket either counts for two or three points.

Cal despises the fans and the media.

He really showed us Basketball Bennies up…

(See posts from November of 2022, Cal)

 

[Montana81]

Ohh, which week was this?

The initial benny lineup had Livingston at the 4.

You realize people only respond to you out of sheer boredom right?

 

[kyjeff1]

The benny lineup has had Fredrick, Reeves, Livingston, Collins after his 1 breakout game, When Wheeler looked good and Cason didn't, it was Wheeler. It literally changes game to game. There was never a set benny lineup, nor was there ever one lineups that got us to this point. It's been different lineups playing well at different times. Others played like **** at other times.

Ohh, Lord. BJB looked like **** because we had no point guard or really any backcourt when Clarke went out. Boston had to play out of position and basically attempt to run the offense.

Sure you did, you just know it's true.

I guess if you count being right as changing weekly to make your argument work.

The Benny lineup never had Collins in it, just stop the ********. There was one Benny lineup, but there are hundreds of people that post on here every day, so yeah, some dudes that have no idea what they're talking about, probably posted a different lineup, but there is one lineup that was the most efficient in the country, that is the lineup we're talking about and you know it. You're just being obtuse just for the hell of it, because that's what you do.

Yeah, that 2021 had a pg that would have worked well enough to get the job done a whole lot better than Askew. Davion Mintz was the better option, put Dontae in at the 2. But that wasn't the issue, Boston couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but he just shot the ball any time he felt leather. He was a me-first player.

Cal blamed that season on lack of fans in the stands, but he critisizes us in every interview now. Weird.

Oh and who's fault was it that the 2021 roster was so flawed? Cal had Devin Askew reclassify to run point… .at UK. WTF was he thinking? That's probably the fans fault too, aye?

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

There was one Benny lineup, but there are hundreds of people that post on here every day, so yeah, some dudes that have no idea what they're talking about, probably posted a different lineup, but there is one lineup that was the most efficient in the country, that is the lineup we're talking about and you know it. You're just being obtuse just for the hell of it, because that's what you do.

Yeah, that 2021 had a pg that would have worked well enough to get the job done a whole lot better than Askew. Davion Mintz was the better option, put Dontae in at the 2. But that wasn't the issue, Boston couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but he just shot the ball any time he felt leather. He was a me-first player.

Cal blamed that season on lack of fans in the stands, but he critisizes us in every interview now. Weird.

Oh and who's fault was it that the 2021 roster was so flawed? Cal had Devin Askew reclassify to run point… .at UK. WTF was he thinking? That's probably the fans fault too, aye?

Cal is deaf, dumb, and blind to think Askew could run a UK team.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

The Sharpe fiasco alone will always put Cal in the "he needs to leave" category. I don't care how many titles he wins, that was sleazy.

THIS. It was gross. He let that muppet looking loser use our program like a back alley *****

 

[VaxxedObamaCat]

I wish more of you understood that you’re simply dumb and Cal is an infallible genius.

He’s such a genius that he couldn’t figure out how to beat a 1-3-1 defense and instead had his team jack up 32 threes. He is always so prepared which is why he said he didn’t even need to watch tape against a final four opponent in 2015.

I need you all to simply just be dumb and pay for tickets and not ever question him. Everyone knows you are all are just the hill jacks on the call-in shows. You couldn’t possibly know anything or discovered anything about this sport that you follow and enjoy.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Livingston at the 4 was ONLY in a BACKUP role to Toppin. And AGAIN that was BEFORE CJ's injury.

Stop making MORE excuses for your DADDY.

Add another gold chain to your collection, Brad.

Ohh, okay. Again, which weeks version was this?


I wish my daddy was a rich as Cal. You all should probably stop the Calipari‘s from living in your heads rent free.

The Benny lineup never had Collins in it, just stop the ********. There was one Benny lineup, but there are hundreds of people that post on here every day, so yeah, some dudes that have no idea what they're talking about, probably posted a different lineup, but there is one lineup that was the most efficient in the country, that is the lineup we're talking about and you know it. You're just being obtuse just for the hell of it, because that's what you do.

Yeah, that 2021 had a pg that would have worked well enough to get the job done a whole lot better than Askew. Davion Mintz was the better option, put Dontae in at the 2. But that wasn't the issue, Boston couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but he just shot the ball any time he felt leather. He was a me-first player.

Cal blamed that season on lack of fans in the stands, but he critisizes us in every interview now. Weird.

Oh and who's fault was it that the 2021 roster was so flawed? Cal had Devin Askew reclassify to run point… .at UK. WTF was he thinking? That's probably the fans fault too, aye?

Lots of ones I read here did. There's been versions with Wheeler, Wallace at PG. Wallace, Fredrick and Reeves at the 2. Fredrick, Reeves and Livingston at 3. Livingston, Topping, Collins, Oscar at the 4. And Oscar and Ugonna at the 5. It's been all over the place.

Why do you consider honesty and facts as being obtuse? Why are you afraid of it?

Mintz was not a pg and Allen sure as **** wasn't a 2 guard. He was useless, sans playing MS St. Boston suffered from having no offense around him.

Who said it wasn't Cal's fault? But the argument wasn't about Cal, it was about Boston and why he sucked.

I have never actually seen where Cal has blamed the fans for losses. Do you have any evidence that supports this?

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

You realize people only respond to you out of sheer boredom right?

Ohh, perhaps. Am I supposed to care as to why as long as they are?

 

[kyjeff1]

Ohh, okay. Again, which weeks version was this?


I wish my daddy was a rich as Cal. You all should probably stop the Calipari‘s from living in your heads rent free.


Lots of ones I read here did. There's been versions with Wheeler, Wallace at PG. Wallace, Fredrick and Reeves at the 2. Fredrick, Reeves and Livingston at 3. Livingston, Topping, Collins, Oscar at the 4. And Oscar and Ugonna at the 5. It's been all over the place.

Why do you consider honesty and facts as being obtuse? Why are you afraid of it?

Mintz was not a pg and Allen sure as **** wasn't 2 guard. He was useless sans playing MS St. Boston suffered from having no offense around him.

Who said it wasn't Cal's fault? But the argument wasn't about Cal, it was about Boston and why he sucked.

I have never actually seen where Cal has blamed the fans for losses. Do you have any evidence that supports this?

Stop it, just stop it. You're lying. Wheeler and Collins were never part of the Benny lineup. You just showed your hand, all you're doing is trolling, that much.is obvious.

Mintz was a utility guy. He could play either of the guard positions and he did just that last year when Wheeler and Tyty were hurt and he did a damn good job.

One thing's for damn sure, he was a much better option than sideshow Bob was, but Cal stayed with that dude for most of the damn season.

That team was extremely thin, so if you're taking Askew out and you know Clarke was out injured, Allen has to play, there was nobody else, but it's still a better option than playing Askew.

But it is Cal's fault, he's the one that sat there and watched BJB play selfishly and lose games. Cal did nothing about it, because he "didn't want to take his heart".

Give me a break.

 

[GoToTexas]

STFU and get past the first round you fatso

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Stop it, just stop it. You're lying. Wheeler and Collins were never part of the Benny lineup. You just showed your hand, all you're doing is trolling, that much.is obvious.

Mintz was a utility guy. He could play either of the guard positions and he did just that last year when Wheeler and Tyty were hurt and he did a damn good job.

One thing's for damn sure, he was a much better option than sideshow Bob was, but Cal stayed with that dude for most of the damn season.

That team was extremely thin, so if you're taking Askew out and you know Clarke was out injured, Allen has to play, there was nobody else, but it's still a better option than playing Askew.

But it is Cal's fault, he's the one that sat there and watched BJB play selfishly and lose games. Cal did nothing about it, because he "didn't want to take his heart".

Give me a break.

Literally multiple posts on this site claiming otherwise, but whatever you need to convince yourself to believe your argument, go for it!

What hand am I showing? Don't you have to keep a hand secret for it to be revealed? You're so dumb.

Minzt was a bench player who had 1 good game a month. He couldn't be relied on for anything. We Literally stunk most of the end of last season because of their injuries.

They both sucked. Mintz would have gotten more run if he looked as good as you're claiming.

Allen was in no way a better option. He isn't even a better option for WKU. He's awful! He and Askew should have never been at UK. However, even Beard at TX thought Askew could be something. Clearly he was wrong, too. Allen never got that much praise.

We would have lost the same games either way. Team sucked without a pg.

So take a break if that's what you need.

 

[kyjeff1]

Literally multiple posts on this site claiming otherwise, but whatever you need to convince yourself to believe your argument, go for it!

What hand am I showing? Don't you have to keep a hand secret for it to be revealed? You're so dumb.

Minzt was a bench player who had 1 good game a month. He couldn't be relied on for anything. We Literally stunk most of the end of last season because of their injuries.

They both sucked. Mintz would have gotten more run if he looked as good as you're claiming.

Allen was in no way a better option. He isn't even a better option for WKU. He's awful! He and Askew should have never been at UK. However, even Beard at TX thought Askew could be something. Clearly he was wrong, too. Allen never got that much praise.

We would have lost the same games either way. Team sucked without a pg.

So take a break if that's what you need.

We won 9 games in 20/21 you numbskull. How much worse do you think Davion would have been? We lost to Richmond at home for Christ sake.

If there is a post by anyone on this board where they included Wheeler and/or Collins in the Benny lineup, I want to see it. Otherwise, all you're doing is trolling.

No real UK fan said that.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

We won 9 games in 20/21 you numbskull. How much worse do you think Davion would have been? We lost to Richmond at home for Christ sake.

If there is a post by anyone on this board where they included Wheeler and/or Collins in the Benny lineup, I want to see it. Otherwise, all you're doing is trolling.

No real UK fan said that.

We wouldn't have been any better with Mintz. He was being sent to the bench at Creighton in lieu of better players before his transfer. He wasn't a savior. He's not even a pg.

There's several, all you have to do is look. They were constantly changing by who was playing well. Whether you choose to believe it or not, or whether you choose to accept whether it was "real" UK fans who posted it is completely up to you. I am just pointing it out.

 

[BBNWildcat]

Ok, I got you now. That’s what you consider talking down to fans.

I’ve listened to most of Cal’s pregame and post game shows since he’s been here. Also the radio show. And the TV show.

He’s never once hurt my feelings.

I do know that there are fans here that think they have been called bennies and are butthurt over it.

If one is looking to be offended then they will be offended.

How could he hurt your feelings? You’re so far up his hindquarters when he sneezes he brings up your breakfast.

 

[BBNWildcat]

We won 9 games in 20/21 you numbskull. How much worse do you think Davion would have been? We lost to Richmond at home for Christ sake.

If there is a post by anyone on this board where they included Wheeler and/or Collins in the Benny lineup, I want to see it. Otherwise, all you're doing is trolling.

No real UK fan said that.

Just block him.

 

[kyjeff1]

We wouldn't have been any better with Mintz. He was being sent to the bench at Creighton in lieu of better players before his transfer. He wasn't a savior. He's not even a pg.

There's several, all you have to do is look. They were constantly changing by who was playing well. Whether you choose to believe it or not, or whether you choose to accept whether it was "real" UK fans who posted it is completely up to you. I am just pointing it out.

Give me a break. You're trying to say Davion would be no better than Devon Askew. You're out of your mind.

 

[kyjeff1]

Just block him.

Eh, I like the entertainment. He tries so hard to troll. It amuses me.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Give me a break. You're trying to say Davion would be no better than Devon Askew. You're out of your mind.

He definitely wasn't at pg. He really wasn't overall. There is nothing that suggests otherwise. Davion, like Devin, was a desperation recruit we took to fill out a roster. Devin was at least ranked pretty high. Obviously way too high. Unfortunately, we had to rely on him to be a day 1 stater at pg when he really isn't even a capable backup pg in college. It was an unfair situation across the board. Nothing suggests Davion would have been any better. It would have more than likely been a similar outcome and even was when we ran Davion at pg. They both made Wheeler look all-american.

 

[Jont0805]

Ohh, which week was this?

The initial benny lineup had Livingston at the 4.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-...y-lineup-most-efficient-in-cbb-since-2019-20/

I understand you are just arguing here because it is fun for you and it’s what people do on fan cites. But there was only one line up. All the talking heads were saying the same thing, the fans and the analytics all agreed.

During the Kansas game they literally showed a graphic with this line up having the best +/- by far of any group Kentucky has put on the floor all season.


Since then Frederick has been hurt and not near as good, wheeler has been hurt, so obviously things are different now.

But to pretend that there were multiple line ups and everyone wanted to try so many things is just flat wrong.

 

[kyjeff1]

He definitely wasn't at pg. He really wasn't overall. There is nothing that suggests otherwise. Davion, like Devin, was a desperation recruit we took to fill out a roster. Devin was at least ranked pretty high. Obviously way too high. Unfortunately, we had to rely on him to be a day 1 stater at pg when he really isn't even a capable backup pg in college. It was an unfair situation across the board. Nothing suggests Davion would have been any better. It would have more than likely been a similar outcome and even was when we ran Davion at pg. They both made Wheeler look all-american.

You keep saying Mintz wasn't a pg, but Ihm not saying he was. He was a combo/utility guard. He can play either guard position. He wasn't Dearron Fox, but he was still miles better than Askew. He at least knew you don't pick up your dribble before you get to half court with no plan.

Mintz was a junior that year, he was the best option we had for pg at that time, that's not even up for debate and when Cal made that change, they actually won some games and were at least competetive in their losses.

 

[James Arington]

@UKBB4Ever Cal talking down to the fans again

Also note that Cal basically just admitted he has people reading this forum.

Why are you angry?

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-...y-lineup-most-efficient-in-cbb-since-2019-20/

I understand you are just arguing here because it is fun for you and it’s what people do on fan cites. But there was only one line up. All the talking heads were saying the same thing, the fans and the analytics all agreed.

During the Kansas game they literally showed a graphic with this line up having the best +/- by far of any group Kentucky has put on the floor all season.


Since then Frederick has been hurt and not near as good, wheeler has been hurt, so obviously things are different now.

But to pretend that there were multiple line ups and everyone wanted to try so many things is just flat wrong.

That's great to claim and all, but that just simply isn't the case on here. There have been many different variations of it clamored for on here. Plus, we have picked up the brunt of our Q1 wins without it. So, again, not sure how the fans or media were right about it.

How is being honest arguing?

You keep saying Mintz wasn't a pg, but Ihm not saying he was. He was a combo/utility guard. He can play either guard position. He wasn't Dearron Fox, but he was still miles better than Askew. He at least knew you don't pick up your dribble before you get to half court with no plan.

Mintz was a junior that year, he was the best option we had for pg at that time, that's not even up for debate and when Cal made that change, they actually won some games and were at least competetive in their losses.

He wasn't. Combo guards or listed for guys that aren't good pg's or sg's but are still guards. Mintz was an okay player, but he wasn't a pg or guy you could consistently rely on.

He wasn't better than Askew though, you're revisionist history is just telling you so. Our record would have been very similar with their roles flipped.

Davion started 21 of 25 games. He wasn't making a difference. Devin Askew started 1 less game. The last 3 games of the season, when Devin's minutes went down, we went 1 of 3. Considering we went 9 for 25 on the season, that's an even worse % for Davion.

 

[Jont0805]

That's great to claim and all, but that just simply isn't the case on here. There have been many different variations of it clamored for on here. Plus, we have picked up the brunt of our Q1 wins without it. So, again, not sure how the fans or media were right about it.

How is being honest arguing?


He wasn't. Combo guards or listed for guys that aren't good pg's or sg's but are still guards. Mintz was an okay player, but he wasn't a pg or guy you could consistently rely on.

He wasn't better than Askew though, you're revisionist history is just telling you so. Our record would have been very similar with their roles flipped.

Davion started 21 of 25 games. He wasn't making a difference. Devin Askew started 1 less game. The last 3 games of the season, when Devin's minutes went down, we went 1 of 3. Considering we went 9 for 25 on the season, that's an even worse % for Davion.

Because not a single person called for any other line up. You haven’t given any line up or an example.

I have you an article, I told you that they actually ran a graphic on television stating this line up was the best at the time.


All you are doing is saying.

“other people said something different, believe me because I know they did, I don’t have any evidence and nothing I am saying makes any sense, but listen to me because I am smart and you are dumb.”

Are you coach Cal?

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Because not a single person called for any other line up. You haven’t given any line up or an example.

I have you an article, I told you that they actually ran a graphic on television stating this line up was the best at the time.


All you are doing is saying.

“other people said something different, believe me because I know they did, I don’t have any evidence and nothing I am saying makes any sense, but listen to me because I am smart and you are dumb.”

Are you coach Cal?

Sure, I did. I actually gave several of the lineup variations if you bothered to read.

You gave an article from a January from like a 3 game stretch against crappy so-so SEC teams. Most of our quad 1 wins came without that lineup. 2 or 3 of our best wins came without it.

I told the lineups that were called for by many and said it was posted on here. You need to me to do your research for you?

As opposed to you saying it didn't happen and expecting everyone to accept that because you say so?

Is the best you all can come up with is accusing someone of being Cal, Ellen or one of their spawn? Jesus! At least be original and come up with new lines of attack. This crap just makes it look like Cal and his family are on your mind 24/7. It's so cringe.

 

[dc513]

When he got warned by the ref for being out of the coach’s box and on the court (like he always does) he turns to his assistants and support staff and starts yelling at them to get back like it’s their fault. Classic Cal deflection of blame to someone other than himself.

I noticed that and how combative he was to the fans sitting behind the bench. He acted mean to them.

 

[Jont0805]

Sure, I did. I actually gave several of the lineup variations if you bothered to read.

You gave an article from a January from like a 3 game stretch against crappy so-so SEC teams. Most of our quad 1 wins came without that lineup. 2 or 3 of our best wins came without it.

I told the lineups that were called for by many and said it was posted on here. You need to me to do your research for you?

As opposed to you saying it didn't happen and expecting everyone to accept that because you say so?

Is the best you all can come up with is accusing someone of being Cal, Ellen or one of their spawn? Jesus! At least be original and come up with new lines of attack. This crap just makes it look like Cal and his family are on your mind 24/7. It's so cringe.

Because no one other than Cal’s family would be this ignorant.

You are the one saying there was multiple line ups. That is a flat out lie. I did the research for you, there is analytics in that article clearing showing facts, there was a graphic in an actual game.

You have provided nothing except, “take my word for it I promise some fan somewhere said we would be better with this line up.”

It is false, it is an outright lie.

Another fan said you pointed out that wheeler and collins were in one of these “Benny line ups” that is not even a good lie.

Just admit you like being argumentative for arguments sake, because you are flat out being untruthful and offering no evidence for any of your claims of there being multiple line ups.

 

[School boy]

Funny thing is you don't have to be that good of a coach to be good here. The program should win on its own. I think the fans can find better players than Toppin and CJ starters at Kentucky.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Because no one other than Cal’s family would be this ignorant.

You are the one saying there was multiple line ups. That is a flat out lie. I did the research for you, there is analytics in that article clearing showing facts, there was a graphic in an actual game.

You have provided nothing except, “take my word for it I promise some fan somewhere said we would be better with this line up.”

It is false, it is an outright lie.

Another fan said you pointed out that wheeler and collins were in one of these “Benny line ups” that is not even a good lie.

Just admit you like being argumentative for arguments sake, because you are flat out being untruthful and offering no evidence for any of your claims of there being multiple line ups.

Ohh, okay, bud. If you say so.

Research? You posted 1 article from January of a lineup that didn't net us many big wins. Im fact, most all of our quad 1 wins came without that lineup.

I haven't told you one time to take my word. I told you what was said and where to find it. I can only lead the horse to water bud.

Not at all, that's just what you choose to believe.

They were on several poster's benny lineups that were posted on here. Again, you're free to believe what you want, but it's not the reality of what actually happened.

I don’t and I am not being that way. You're the one being dishonest with yourself. The evidence is all on here if you go look. Totally up to you to believe whatever you choose, bud!

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Funny thing is you don't have to be that good of a coach to be good here. The program should win on its own. I think the fans can find better players than Toppin and CJ starters at Kentucky.

So go get us some. Considering Ian Jackson admitted he was turned off from UK because of the fans, I doubt you will find it that easy.

 

[Cbbcrazy2]

Cal is the typical liberal, take credit but never give it. Make mistakes and never admit it. Stubborn even when it is going off the rails he never makes the changes needed to fix the problem. A 20 year old young man has to tell him to go zone when every talking head in the country has said for years he needed to do so. I will never, ever like him as a man, I will say he coached his rear off in the Arkansas game, sad part for 9m a year he should be doing it for his entire tenure here. I wish the team well the remainder of the season. However only one thing would make me happy, him getting on a plane and not return as the UK coach would make me celebrate the rest of my days.

 

[kyjeff1]

That's great to claim and all, but that just simply isn't the case on here. There have been many different variations of it clamored for on here. Plus, we have picked up the brunt of our Q1 wins without it. So, again, not sure how the fans or media were right about it.

How is being honest arguing?


He wasn't. Combo guards or listed for guys that aren't good pg's or sg's but are still guards. Mintz was an okay player, but he wasn't a pg or guy you could consistently rely on.

He wasn't better than Askew though, you're revisionist history is just telling you so. Our record would have been very similar with their roles flipped.

Davion started 21 of 25 games. He wasn't making a difference. Devin Askew started 1 less game. The last 3 games of the season, when Devin's minutes went down, we went 1 of 3. Considering we went 9 for 25 on the season, that's an even worse % for Davion.

Still waiting on you to prove ANYONE said Wheeler and Collins were part of the Benny lineup. There was one lineup, you can swap Livingston out for Toppin, but that's splitting hairs, the main 4 cogs in the Benny lineup were Wallace, Reeves, CJ and Oscar, the 4 spot could be either/or, but it always had Livingston at the 4. Even.if he's not at the 4, it's still a much better lineup than what Cal was running.

As far as Mintz, you just have no idea what you're looking at if you think Mintz was no better than Askew. That is laughable.

Again, we all know Davion wasn't a point guard, but that doesn't mean he couldn't run it. He was a utility guy and he was miles better than Askew and it was just because he had more experience and didn't piss down his leg whenever he saw a defender.

Keep replying though, you look worse each time you do it.

 

[kyjeff1]

Ohh, okay, bud. If you say so.

Research? You posted 1 article from January of a lineup that didn't net us many big wins. Im fact, most all of our quad 1 wins came without that lineup.

I haven't told you one time to take my word. I told you what was said and where to find it. I can only lead the horse to water bud.

Not at all, that's just what you choose to believe.

They were on several poster's benny lineups that were posted on here. Again, you're free to believe what you want, but it's not the reality of what actually happened.

I don’t and I am not being that way. You're the one being dishonest with yourself. The evidence is all on here if you go look. Totally up to you to believe whatever you choose, bud!

Yeah, he posted one link and that's all he needed to post. You posted zero links.

And yes, while Cal won many games by not playing the Benny lineup, he also still lost games he shouldn't have, because he refused to play it. Kansas, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Georgia, South Carolina, Michigan state and Gonzaga.

It's why this team is so erratic. Lose to South Carolina at home, go to Tennessee and win, lose to Vanderbilt at home, go to Arkansas and win, lose to UGA, beat Tennessee.
One day you'll understand.

Again, he posted a link that proved his point, where is your link? Show us where anyone said Wheeler and/or Collins were in the Benny lineup.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Still waiting on you to prove ANYONE said Wheeler and Collins were part of the Benny lineup. There was one lineup, you can swap Livingston out for Toppin, but that's splitting hairs, the main 4 cogs in the Benny lineup were Wallace, Reeves, CJ and Oscar, the 4 spot could be either/or, but it always had Livingston at the 4. Even.if he's not at the 4, it's still a much better lineup than what Cal was running.

As far as Mintz, you just have no idea what you're looking at if you think Mintz was no better than Askew. That is laughable.

Again, we all know Davion wasn't a point guard, but that doesn't mean he couldn't run it. He was a utility guy and he was miles better than Askew and it was just because he had more experience and didn't piss down his leg whenever he saw a defender.

Keep replying though, you look worse each time you do it.

I told you where it was. Horse to water, can't make drink sorta thing.

If that was the benny lineup, then we have never used it more than like 5 minutes. So you certainly haven't been right about it.

Except he really wasn't, but if you want to believe that, you're free to.

Ohh, okay.

 

[Aint No Sunshine]

Yeah, he posted one link and that's all he needed to post. You posted zero links.

And yes, while Cal won many games by not playing the Benny lineup, he also still lost games he shouldn't have, because he refused to play it. Kansas, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Georgia, South Carolina, Michigan state and Gonzaga.

It's why this team is so erratic. Lose to South Carolina at home, go to Tennessee and win, lose to Vanderbilt at home, go to Arkansas and win, lose to UGA, beat Tennessee.
One day you'll understand.

Again, he posted a link that proved his point, where is your link? Show us where anyone said Wheeler and/or Collins were in the Benny lineup.

He posted a link to an article not even tbst relevant to the discussion. We are talking about the fans on here, not the media. It also isn't even the lineup that brought us the most success this year.

By many, you mean most of them and almost all of our quad 1 wins?

How do you guarantee we win those games with that lineup? What coach hasn't lost games they shouldn't have? What team hasn't been erratic this year?

Oh....riiighhht.

I told you where to find it. I don't think it should be that hard for you.

 

[kyjeff1]

I told you where it was. Horse to water, can't make drink sorta thing.

If that was the benny lineup, then we have never used it more than like 5 minutes. So you certainly haven't been right about it.

Except he really wasn't, but if you want to believe that, you're free to.

Ohh, okay.

Doesn't matter if he played the entire benny lineup or not. Like I said in another post, the lineups he is now playing, are good enough to win games, but as you can see, these are also lineups that are still losing bad games.

The main thing was, he had to stop playing Wheeler 30 mpg and put the ball in his best players hands.

If Cal stuck with the Benny lineup, we don't lose to Michigan State, Gonzaga, South Carolina, KU, UGA and Vandy, so thanks for proving my point.

You didn't lead any horse to water, you didn't give a link or even call out any posters that said Wheeler and/or Collins were part of the Benny lineup. It is your burden to prove, prove it.

 

[kyjeff1]

He posted a link to an article not even tbst relevant to the discussion. We are talking about the fans on here, not the media. It also isn't even the lineup that brought us the most success this year.

By many, you mean most of them and almost all of our quad 1 wins?

How do you guarantee we win those games with that lineup? What coach hasn't lost games they shouldn't have? What team hasn't been erratic this year?

Oh....riiighhht.

I told you where to find it. I don't think it should be that hard for you.

Again, he is playing lineups that are at least close to the Benny lineup and we're still losing games to bad teams because of it.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

The irony here is so funny. Cal stops playing Wheeler, plays a zone, lets the players play without micromanaging, plays his best shooters, plays Thiero and we win against a team that blew us out. Yeah Cal, you really showed us!

Q

I figured the big time Cal supporters would get mad at you over this thread. Lol

and that the haters would be up in arms. Cal has no filters and you would think by now somebody either redirect or reign him in

 

[KYFOSSIL]

On this site, look at who is the most combative. I’ve seen people get cursed out idk how many times over fair criticisms of Cal. Hell we all make mistakes. No coach is above criticism, but on here we got a select few that are going to defend Cal no matter what he does.

I agree with you completely on that because some of them just troll honestly they should be banned but on the other side of the coin there are those that hate iust to hate and minimize or try to drown out anything positive.