Cal just can't help himself

Woodrow24

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Yeah, there is no reasoning with them, but I keep bouncing them around so eventually they will realize how weird it is to be more of a Cal fan than a UK fan. That guy has ruined everything he built his first 8 years in a very short period of time.

I don't know what else the guy has to do to prove to his fans that he has lost it and he doesn't care.

I really, really want to like the guy, but he keeps giving me reasons not to.
On this site, look at who is the most combative. I’ve seen people get cursed out idk how many times over fair criticisms of Cal. Hell we all make mistakes. No coach is above criticism, but on here we got a select few that are going to defend Cal no matter what he does.
 

LmdCat

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Just because there’s some truth to something doesn’t mean you should say it. One of the biggest wins of the season, Cal getting nothing but praise from the fanbase, and he goes out of his way to take a shot at them.

He’s been so bad these last few years that he can’t handle his successes anymore.
Fans will learn one day to stay off the Calipari rollercoaster. Some on this board jump back onto the Calipari rollercoaster every time it appears heading up to only quickly exit once it starts back downhill. There is absolutely nothing that Calipari could ever do to regain my support. I exited off the rollercoaster several years ago and will remain off.
 

Woodrow24

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Just because there’s some truth to something doesn’t mean you should say it. One of the biggest wins of the season, Cal getting nothing but praise from the fanbase, and he goes out of his way to take a shot at them.

He’s been so bad these last few years that he can’t handle his successes anymore.
It’s really surprised me how he handles the media lately. Cal used to be excellent with the media no matter if we won or lost a ball game.
 
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Montana81

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It’s really surprised me how he handles the media lately. Cal used to be excellent with the media no matter if we won or lost a ball game.

I just hope it’s not another in a long recent line of pride before the fall scenarios playing out with Cal. It seems like every time “swaggy cal” makes an appearance these last few years his ego gets a massive reality check shortly after.
 

Woodrow24

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I just hope it’s not another in a long recent line of pride before the fall scenarios playing out with Cal. It seems like every time “swaggy cal” makes an appearance these last few years his ego gets a massive reality check shortly after.
I know what you mean. I don’t want to see anyone go out like that too. I appreciate what Cal has done in the past and what he has done currently for people in the state when disasters have hurt so many.
 

Drcats2025

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I think it’s pretty evident there’s a group of guys on this board looking for identity and acceptance. They get that through commiserating in this common agenda to “Fire Cal”. It’s what gives them purpose and makes them feel part of a group. So, I guess in that light, it’s not really about truth, but about signaling a need to fit in.

The timing of this thread is more evidence of that. It was one of the best wins and coaching jobs on the season. Not just at Kentucky, but anywhere. But the take away here is hurt feelings.
I for one was cals biggest cheerleader until the last couple years. Argued with MANY people in my personal life that he was the only man for the job. I was wrong and admitted as much.

I couldn’t give two ***** what you, Cal, the people that disagree with me, or the ones that agree with me think about me. I don’t long for acceptance from any anonymous bastard on this board. No reasonable person had anything negative to say until Cal chose to be a dick. Hop off your high horse.
 

LineSkiCat14

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This relationship likely doesn't have much more runway left. This year, and next year. He has zero recruits for 2024, and while it's still early, it's starting to feel like recruits know not to commit to Cal that far out.

Were going to have a lot of players leave/graduate after next year. Unless he gets 5 or 6 top50 guys, it's going to be very tough. 2024 could be ugly and I don't think he's gonna want to deal with it and further wreck his legacy/reputation here in Kentucky.
 

RunninRichie

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I for one was cals biggest cheerleader until the last couple years. Argued with MANY people in my personal life that he was the only man for the job. I was wrong and admitted as much.

I couldn’t give two ***** what you, Cal, the people that disagree with me, or the ones that agree with me think about me. I don’t long for acceptance from any anonymous bastard on this board. No reasonable person had anything negative to say until Cal chose to be a dick. Hop off your high horse.
Oh no! Names on a screen don't agree with me and think I'm a miserable dumbass!
 

LineSkiCat14

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Actually after looking at the 2024 class.. only 15 of the top25 recruits even remain.

I think it's pretty clear how this is going to go. Next year is the final season for Cal. Unless he really wants to coach in 2024/25 and win 10 games enroute to another bad season.. something I don't think even he wants to do, despite making $10,000,000. That would really dig into his ego and would be a big hit to his legacy. I think he goes out at the end of next year.
 

UKAlum84

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A world exists where coaches do not get top rated recruits and shock the world with "great" teams.....Im not saying you should not recruit but think about it, I'd like a coach who can get effort out of his players. There was a time at UK when the effort was there, now we control the clock by dribbling out close to half court and passing around the perimeter without really thinking about the goal. And our top recruits kind of dictate a lot of the outcome of the game, not the coach.
 

Aint No Sunshine

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Yeah, but the fans were right with most everything we said this year and we were right in 2021 and we were right about the Shaedon Sharpe situation and we're right that draft night isn't the greatest night in UK history and we're right to say this team damn sure shouldn't have 10 losses right now, 4 of which were at home.

It's not like Cal is being critisized for things that aren't true.

He didn't fill all 13 scholarshios, so again, injuries have neutered us.

We were right about the Bennie lineup, he mocked us, but we were right.

We were right about not playing Wheeler 35mpg.

We were right about not playing Collins to get him over the loss of his dad.

We were right about getting Adou and Ugo more time to get them up to speed.

We were also right about playing different zone defenses to prevent dribble penetration, easy buckets and foul trouble.

Tell me where the fans were wrong.

Are we just supposed to sit quietly and watch the incompetence and let him just coast like Denny Crum did for 20 years?

UK is great because the fans, we support the program no matter where they play, but you can't just turn that passion off when a coach is driving the program into the ground.
But you all weren't right at all. The arguments just changed so you appeared correct.

There's been like 4 or 5 different benny lineups. They changed based on who was performing well for the week.

What were you right about in 2021?

Who was he going to fill out the scholarships with that would be worth a damn? Give us some names.

How were you right about Wheeler not playing 35mpg? When was he ever wanted to play 35mpg?

How were you right about Adou and Ugonna? You all didn't even want Adou when he was recruited and thought he was just a favor to his dad. Then, when he was given minutes in Bahamas and the scrimmages, you all fell in love. When we faced real competition, he didn't look so good. Now he is forced into more minutes because of injuries and he still looks lost. He was averaging like 10mpg before the injuries, so it's not like he wasn't getting chances. Ugonna looked lost to start and still looks lost. He is unplayable at this point. Not sure what you could possibly conclude you were right about there.

We played zone for a portion of 1 game against a team who is reeling and played like garbage, never exploiting the fact we didn't even have a pg. What does that prove?

You are going to have to show me where you were right before I can show you how that was wrong.

Who has asked you to accept these things? No one is forcing you to accept anything.

Who asked you to turn your passion off? It would just be nice if you could turn your brains on while having that passion on.
 

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@UKBB4Ever Cal talking down to the fans again

Also note that Cal basically just admitted he has people reading this forum.
Ok, I got you now. That’s what you consider talking down to fans.

I’ve listened to most of Cal’s pregame and post game shows since he’s been here. Also the radio show. And the TV show.

He’s never once hurt my feelings.

I do know that there are fans here that think they have been called bennies and are butthurt over it.

If one is looking to be offended then they will be offended.
 
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nickhorvathsuxazz

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Im with Toppin, 1-3-1 or 2-3/3-2 zones have their place in games. Wish Cal would explain why man to man is superior all the time.
I think most of it w/ Cal and man is for rebounding purposes. He places a high emphasis on out-rebounding the opponent and zone defenses don't allow for clear-cut box-out assignments. That's my guess
 

kyjeff1

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But you all weren't right at all. The arguments just changed so you appeared correct.

There's been like 4 or 5 different benny lineups. They changed based on who was performing well for the week.

What were you right about in 2021?

Who was he going to fill out the scholarships with that would be worth a damn? Give us some names.

How were you right about Wheeler not playing 35mpg? When was he ever wanted to play 35mpg?

How were you right about Adou and Ugonna? You all didn't even want Adou when he was recruited and thought he was just a favor to his dad. Then, when he was given minutes in Bahamas and the scrimmages, you all fell in love. When we faced real competition, he didn't look so good. Now he is forced into more minutes because of injuries and he still looks lost. He was averaging like 10mpg before the injuries, so it's not like he wasn't getting chances. Ugonna looked lost to start and still looks lost. He is unplayable at this point. Not sure what you could possibly conclude you were right about there.

We played zone for a portion of 1 game against a team who is reeling and played like garbage, never exploiting the fact we didn't even have a pg. What does that prove?

You are going to have to show me where you were right before I can show you how that was wrong.

Who has asked you to accept these things? No one is forcing you to accept anything.

Who asked you to turn your passion off? It would just be nice if you could turn your brains on while having that passion on.
None of this crap is going to fly here Leadbelly.

There was one benny lineup and Wheeler most certainly was playing 35mpg.

In 2021, BJB was doing everything he could to lose games, Cal decides to try to let him play through it, which was mistake. Cal's ability to recognize talent, both in recruiting and on his own teans, is severely lacking. He looks for stars next to names, then plays them endlessly, doesn't matter how many games are lost and it doesn't matter that better players are riding the pine.

I didn't read the rest of your post, because I'm sure it's garbage, like the rest of them.

The fans have been right and so was the media.
 

Blue Wildcat

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Cal absolutely despised anyone who doesn’t worship him. Most fans of the program have followed basketball our whole lives, whether we played or didn’t play, coached or didn’t coach and this is new to Calipari… well not as much now obviously he has been here 13-14 years.

At Umass, no one cared about basketball or knew anything they just knew hey this guy has us in the final four, wow he must be great! At memphis no one cares about basketball or knew about basketball so they too were happy with whatever Cal did or said because they were relevant.

In Cal’s first few years when he had the number one player in just about every recruiting class at every position he loved the fans. The fans could have an opinion because it was like his and it didn’t matter if we played man-to-man for 40 minutes and didn’t really have an offense because our 5 was always better than your 5. Times have changed.

Fans point out simple things like, hey this line up is the most efficient in all of basketball right now, hey if your 5 are getting beat by the same play over and over you may want to change the plays, etc. and all the sudden Cal goes out of his way to point out to the fans how he feels about us.

When the national media wrote articles about the subject did he call them out? Not that I can recall.

How anyone supports this man other than because he is the head coach and they want the team to do well is beyond me.
He is a Narcissist..
 
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When he got warned by the ref for being out of the coach’s box and on the court (like he always does) he turns to his assistants and support staff and starts yelling at them to get back like it’s their fault. Classic Cal deflection of blame to someone other than himself.
That little tirade was a PERFECT example of Cal's Narcissism!! I loved seeing Chin laughing about it, but noticed Orlando didn't and was doing everything he could to make more room. The look on those poor managers faces told me this wasn't the first time Cal had threw a fit like that.

Make way for the King!!!!
 

Aint No Sunshine

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None of this crap is going to fly here Leadbelly.

There was one benny lineup and Wheeler most certainly was playing 35mpg.

In 2021, BJB was doing everything he could to lose games, Cal decides to try to let him play through it, which was mistake. Cal's ability to recognize talent, both in recruiting and on his own teans, is severely lacking. He looks for stars next to names, then plays them endlessly, doesn't matter how many games are lost and it doesn't matter that better players are riding the pine.

I didn't read the rest of your post, because I'm sure it's garbage, like the rest of them.

The fans have been right and so was the media.
The benny lineup has had Fredrick, Reeves, Livingston, Collins after his 1 breakout game, When Wheeler looked good and Cason didn't, it was Wheeler. It literally changes game to game. There was never a set benny lineup, nor was there ever one lineups that got us to this point. It's been different lineups playing well at different times. Others played like **** at other times.

Ohh, Lord. BJB looked like **** because we had no point guard or really any backcourt when Clarke went out. Boston had to play out of position and basically attempt to run the offense.

Sure you did, you just know it's true.

I guess if you count being right as changing weekly to make your argument work.
 
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kyjeff1

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That little tirade was a PERFECT example of Cal's Narcissism!! I loved seeing Chin laughing about it, but noticed Orlando didn't and was doing everything he could to make more room. The look on those poor managers faces told me this wasn't the first time Cal had threw a fit like that.

Make way for the King!!!!
I would love to know what Cal said there. The way Orlando reacted makes me think Cal said something sarcastic about the ref and honestly, I don't blame him. These refs allow every other coach to walk.out on the court and never give a warning, these refs keep giving Cal a hard time about it though. This ref stopped the game and Arkansas was deep into their offense when he did it. It really wasn't necessary.
 

bluedog79

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*** him. Hopefully this year or next year he gets the championship so we can be done with his ***. Use him for whatever we can get and kick his *** out the door. Like every one of the coaches that came before him. ✔️🫵
 
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The benny lineup has had Fredrick, Reeves, Livingston, Collins after his 1 breakout game, When Wheeler looked good and Cason didn't, it was Wheeler. It literally changes game to game. There was never a set benny lineup, nor was there ever one lineups that got us to this point. It's been different lineups playing well at different times. Others played like **** at other times.


I guess if you count being right as changing weekly to make your argument work.
The "Benny Lineup" was ALWAYS:
Cason Wallace-PG
Antonio Reeves-SG
CJ Fredrick- Wing
Jacob Toppin-PF
Oscar-C

Once CJ got hurt, then it was Livingston at the 3.

Wheeler NOR Collins were EVER in the "Benny Lineup".

Now go get another tattoo Brad.
 
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@UKBB4Ever Cal talking down to the fans again

Also note that Cal basically just admitted he has people reading this forum.
It’s pretty obvious he does and that makes me dislike him even more. God forbid somebody knocks down his ego. I can’t be the only one who‘s been attacked on here by freshly made accounts am I? All of which suddenly disappear or change names at sunset. 🧐
 
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Aint No Sunshine

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The "Benny Lineup" was ALWAYS:
Cason Wallace-PG
Antonio Reeves-SG
CJ Fredrick- Wing
Jacob Toppin-PF
Oscar-C

Once CJ got hurt, then it was Livingston at the 3.

Wheeler NOR Collins were EVER in the "Benny Lineup".

Now go get another tattoo Brad.
Ohh, which week was this? 🤣

The initial benny lineup had Livingston at the 4.
 
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