Dude you are totally missing the point.Bates was the one who wasn't interested in us like most of the top guys lately.
Bates to Memphis
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That has nothing to do with what was being discussed.
I think that was a pretty exclusive invite. Only 12 people on the planet were invited.
You can say that 353 each of 353 teams will not win the title and you would only be wrong one time. You guys saying Memphis will not win the title are full of ****. Michigan State will not win the title, Oregon State will not win the title, North Carolina State will not win the title. See how easy that is to make a prediction and be right. You people must be scared of Hardeway and Memphis or you would not be crying and keep saying how bad Hardeway is over and over. Why don't you just worry about the Cats because they won't win the title either. Now I will be right about those teams that I said will not win the title, but I won't keep repeating it over and over. A lot of you guys on here sound like little kids not getting your way.
Adding Larry Brown & Rasheed Wallace to his staff helped Penny out immensely.
point is...we won't win the title. you may need to read a little slower...give it time to sink in.
This says Ky offered, but who knows for sure other than Bates and the coaches at UK?
Yeah, we offered, but he just never showed any interest in us. Then he committed to Michigan State, so it became a non issue until he decommitted a few months ago. After that, I think it was always gonna be either Memphis, Michigan State or the G-League route, I don't think anyone else was ever in serious contention.
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When he committed to MSU I remember the talk being no one was even bothering to try very hard except izzo because no one expected him to play college ball. They would have all been right if NIL didn't happen
The problem with this question is that it treats the options as mutually exclusive options, and they're not.
I'd prefer to have Bates and Duren, and then land a bunch of guys like Grady, too, because they're easy to sign in the Spring.
When he coached high school they played a couple times in the City of palms classic here in Fort Myers. It’s the premiere high school tournament in America played over Xmas. He had the most talented team both years ( by far) . And they were the most poorly coached team in the tournament
Cal is not NIL. That is on UK and boosters. Do you really think penny and sheed are making this deals?
i know it’s a lot more fun to bash Cal than use some common sense.
You mean the same thing they've done with coaches for years? The NIL is going to severely weaken KY and many in this state will need to define themselves by something other than a sport played by young men.
This is a make it or break it year for Penny. If he wins, look for him to jump to coach in the NBA. If he doesn't, he will probably step down to prevent his legacy from getting too tarnished...
Not at all. Cal has choked away 3 titles with his ****** coaching. Well known fact.
If you think these guys chose penny and Memphis state over UK, Duke etc... and its not about the $$$; I don’t know what to tell you.
Seriously, you guys can’t be this dense.
Memphis has some pretty good experience this year. Guard-wise, they have Lomax back as a senior as well as junior Quinones. They've added Miami transfer Timberlake (sophomore) and former Memphis player Tyler Harris, who went to Iowa State for a year, and is now a senior. Frontcourt/wing players Nolley (Jr) and DeAndre Williams (Sr?) are also back, plus they got Chandler Lawson, a junior transfer from Oregon.
If Bates is going to run point and can do it effectively (hard to say after watching T. Clarke for us last year), then their lineup is Bates, Quinones, Nolley, Williams, and Duren. That's really good.
Also they would have Lomax, Harris, Timberlake, Lawson, and Dandridge as reserves. (I didn't count their other recruits ~ Minott, Lawson, Ayomide, and Camden ~ since I am not familiar with them, but they were 4-stars for the most part and should play)
My guess is they roll through their schedule and end up as a 2-seed in the tourney and lose in the 2nd round or Sweet 16 now, which is better than the 8 or 9 seed that they likely were before Bates committed, or the NIT team they were before Duren committed. They do play both Alabama and Tennessee in December so those should be fun games to watch.
Penny is a ‘roll the ball out and let them play’ type coach. Calipari and Izzo are more ‘hard ***’ type coaches that will not let a player just run wild within their system.
Seems like Penny told Bates he can play PG. ok. His dad formed his own prep school last year so Bates could do whatever he wants and now his camp wanted a coach who’d let him do whatever he want.
Seems like Penny told Bates he can play PG. ok. His dad formed his own prep school last year so Bates could do whatever he wants and now his camp wanted a coach who’d let him do whatever he want.
The takes on this stuff are always interesting. When Cal was getting his pick of the litter, people referred to him as the "just rolls the balls out there" coach.
It's embarrassing is what I say. We've got some horses but they keep getting Lamborgini and next thing you know we are just on the sidelines drinking fruit punch. I don't have any problems with Memphis but I do have a problem with how we are getting smoked on the recruiting trail. Not a good sign you always need talent. So we better be picking it up soon or we'll be picking up some CBI dates if we're not careful
If you are so embarrassed, get ahold on the new NIL guy...and get him off his arse
As far as I'm concerned Mitch is the NIL guy. Yes I know the program can't be directly involved but I haven't seen anything about indirect involvement. We need to offer incentives to companies with club seats, tickets and discounts in promotions. They in turn can pay it forward if you will. The lack of creativity I am seeing would be surprising, if it wasn't so obvious he and the athletic department are living in 1995
they hired a guy for this...some television sports producer that is supposed to be a great guy...
I don't want great guys at that spot, I want mover and shakers that can sell Ice to Eskimos to get these companies to pay up...
BBN as strong as we are cannot help without someone organizing us.
Hence, a lot of recruiting it is outa Cal's and staff's hands
if we are behind in the NIL game...then, every and any recruit is a huge positive statement of Cal
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Coaches are professionals. High school seniors going to orientation on a college campus are not.
You just admitted you think this hurts UK and UK fans but that’s a good thing? You’re so ate up in the political weapon of identity politics you just can’t keep your head straight can ya man?
You’re paranoid. You need to see someone