Bates to Memphis
- Thread starter RoyKent
- Start date
memphis public schools ladies and gentlemen.
Gonzo will be along to tell you you're stupid for saying this. And please don't say "punked". That sets him off.
Lively is a must get at this point. Losing him to Schyer in his first year would be inexcusable anyway you slice it. Cal has to close on him.
Are we? Really? Or it some self-appointed hall monitor?
I don't know how people can't see this. NIL killed what was left of the old-time college basketball.
FedEx is paying big time in Memphis looks like Cal might have to give up some of that 10 million a year if he wants to compete and get the top players these days!
Penny still an unproven college coach as far as I’m concerned. He’s going to need big time results in March with that level of talent.
Man, remember when Kentucky used to be the "IT" school for players like this. Don't tell me the mighty haven't fallen. You'd be lying if you said we haven't.
I know we did, but it doesn’t surprise me that someone here is claiming otherwise. That’s one of the funnier things here whenever we lose on one of these kids, posters suddenly start pretending we didn’t want him anyways. Yeah, right, because why would anyone want one of the top 3 rated players in the country?
Cut the ********, folks, yes we did recruit him, and yes we did offer him. But, for whatever odd reason, Bates never showed interest in us, which is why we didn’t hear that much about his recruitment.
As much as we like to bash on Penny, the truth is he’s been cleaning Cal’s clock on the recruiting trail. That needs to change fast.
Last edited:
That's the reason UK is about a 10 year job after 10 years it's time for the coach to move on. They become stagnant in this job after too many years of being here. This job ages the coach worse than the President of the USA.
Honest to God I'm the one that said that we didn't recruit him and I've never seen anything to say otherwise.
Rivals says we didn't offer him, 247 does. I googled it and can find nothing.
Oh and btw...one of the funnier things here is whenever we lose a recruit people act like they just walked in on their wife with another man.
If I am wrong that is fine. Can't find one article that says we offered him and Rivals doesn't even have us listed as having offered him...but I may be the crazy one.
Do you see that little checkmark under “offer” next to Kentucky’s name?
It's time to face the fact that Cal's offering at UK is not what it used to be. The shine has worn off. He's vulnerable to negative recruiting and we're being played by a lot of top recruits for attention. I'm not saying Cal is even mediocre, he's still much better than that. But he, and UK, are no longer an elite destination for these 5 star mercenaries.
That doesn’t mean we can't still get what it takes to win, win big, and even win a title. Lord knows Penny won't regardless of who he's getting. But we won't be doing it any longer with transcend freshmen alone because we just aren't getting them.
That doesn’t mean we can't still get what it takes to win, win big, and even win a title. Lord knows Penny won't regardless of who he's getting. But we won't be doing it any longer with transcend freshmen alone because we just aren't getting them.
Do you see it next to Rivals? Didn't think so. If you could read you'd see I explained this multiple times.
Not necessarily. But Sharpe isn’t some insane talent. I still think if he has higher offers, he won’t come.
The NIL is a big deal so people shouldn’t anticipate business as usual. There’s a reason the grievance voices on the board were so giddy the day this was signed off on. A few of them even lobbied to buy player’s t shirts lol.
It’s a complete lack of understanding as to what the NIL is and means. This isn’t about letting a kid sign a ball and make a small profit. This has opened the door to big business and businessmen buying players. It’s not worded that way, but that’s what it is.
Nothing they've posted so far up until your post was untrue.
And all you could do was respond with ad hominem.
I don’t see any list of offers in what you just posted, but I do know that both ESPN and 24/7 Sports clearly show that we did offer him. And do you know why? Because we DID. This is common knowledge, and you’re the only one here trying to deny it.
Sometimes you’ve just gotta bite the bullet and admit you were wrong.
Open the rivals and scroll down to offers. There are 10 and none of them are ours.
Dude, I can care less if I'm wrong. The simple fact is every single time we offer a player it is public knowledge. I've never seen something stating we offered Bates. Hell, you can go to Wikipedia and it tells you who the offers he received as early as his Freshman year in HS.
If we offered him it was years ago. It isn't on Rivals and on 247 if you go to his timeline there is nothing from us at all, dating back to beginning of 2019. No mention of us recruiting him on Wikipedia page. Can't find a Google article, one from LHL, KSR, ESPN, CBS, you name it...
But yeah, it is common knowledge.
Last edited:
The only line of defense we have for continuously getting schooled by Duke and Memphis is that we're "morally above reproach."
Maybe we should start hanging some ethics banner championships.
Maybe we should start hanging some ethics banner championships.
I don’t think it’s about that. Kentucky always sells itself. Even when we’re not at the heap of the stack we still compete as good as most programs always hope too. I don’t think that necessarily changes.
Kentucky needs to figure out what they’re going to do in order to take this into the next century. Calipari on the other hand might not be the right guy at this point. We’ll see how it shakes out, but Calipari is known to have little awareness with regard to reinvention. He just doesn’t adapt well to foreign ideas. He signed off on an NIL game that no one had interest in and had to pull back. It’s doesn’t seem like he’s gonna be a leader in this era of that is an indication. The NIL is about business, linking imagery of future star NBA players while in college.
And we offer a few thousand dollars off of a basketball scrimmage?
Cal has made sure to keep away from paying players (See FBI investigation/players backed away from seeking compensation), head cases (for the most part) and cheating in general.
Other schools, have been buying players. Crazy that the FBI investigation ( plus UNC's academic scandal), should've destroyed some of these programs. Conveniently, now everyone can pay players. With it already being in place, now they just slap it under NIL. Which gives them an early advantage.
Realistically, there's gonna be adjustments to some of the NIL. I'm not sure what it will be but they don't want the sport to die. As a business, they don't want to lose their money either. As many have pointed out, teams like Texas have a huge advantage. You can't have the same one or two teams winning every year.
In every scenario, UK will be fine. This year we may look behind because we've been running a clean program. Love him or hate him, Cal is good at marketing (reason other coaches steal his ideas), usually ahead of the curve in that aspect. Tie that in with a national fan base and let's see what next year looks like. Cal probably had some ideas already but I could see our compliance department being uncomfortable. They've got no reason to be now and he'll make sure this NIL goes to work for us. Cal is the coach you want here, for this transition.
Besides the NIL, bailing out all the schools about to get their heads knocked off. Good way to try to slow UK down, with K and Roy leaving/gone.
We have a good team this year and should be fun to watch. Let's enjoy the ride and see how creative Cal gets. As always, Go Big Blue!!!
Other schools, have been buying players. Crazy that the FBI investigation ( plus UNC's academic scandal), should've destroyed some of these programs. Conveniently, now everyone can pay players. With it already being in place, now they just slap it under NIL. Which gives them an early advantage.
Realistically, there's gonna be adjustments to some of the NIL. I'm not sure what it will be but they don't want the sport to die. As a business, they don't want to lose their money either. As many have pointed out, teams like Texas have a huge advantage. You can't have the same one or two teams winning every year.
In every scenario, UK will be fine. This year we may look behind because we've been running a clean program. Love him or hate him, Cal is good at marketing (reason other coaches steal his ideas), usually ahead of the curve in that aspect. Tie that in with a national fan base and let's see what next year looks like. Cal probably had some ideas already but I could see our compliance department being uncomfortable. They've got no reason to be now and he'll make sure this NIL goes to work for us. Cal is the coach you want here, for this transition.
Besides the NIL, bailing out all the schools about to get their heads knocked off. Good way to try to slow UK down, with K and Roy leaving/gone.
We have a good team this year and should be fun to watch. Let's enjoy the ride and see how creative Cal gets. As always, Go Big Blue!!!
You can’t make this stuff up. Some of our “fans” are jealous of a coach that has never even made the tournament correct?
Well it's official, I scoured the search option for all of Rupps Rafters wasting my time (wgaf Reds losing) and not one post of an offer to Emoni Bates. But I guess we offered him because 2/3 of the recruiting sites say we did.
I suppose there is one generational talent we could have offered and not be able to confirm anywhere on the internet.
I suppose there is one generational talent we could have offered and not be able to confirm anywhere on the internet.
I don’t think I ever saw an official offer, but that’s more to do with the fact that we weren’t going to get him. Not every recruit flirts with us. He cut us early.
Had he shown any interest we would have offered. Seems logical that UK considered Bates a lost cause early on.
The issue here isn’t as much about did we offer, we would have. The issue is why did an inexperienced middle school coach who can’t coach a lick, has been on a warm seat, and coaches at a mid major who hasn’t had real accomplishments since I was a teenager just land 2 top 5 players in the class? And it’s no secret as to why, in Memphis.
Lol but it makes him feel better to think UK didn’t want him. Let him be.
Seems Penny learned a little on the set of Blue Chips. He's turned into Pete Bell and has his hand out to Happy.
My point is and was we didn't chase this kid. We 100% chased Duren and Wiseman...no doubt.
Lol, yeah I should just listen to a group of folks that heard from their dental hygienists best friend on Facebook that we offered a recruit but there's nothing from anyone showing we did.
I mean it’s only 2 of the top 3 biggest recruiting services but ok sure. I mean you could be right though.