Stop acting dumb and entitled.

UkCat11

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Feb 24, 2017
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You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
 
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When Cal uses the term "GOLD STANDARD" of college basketball while making MORE MONEY than Nick Saban without ONE THIRD of the results of Nick Saban, UK fans that FOOT THE BILL for that contract, are MOST DEFINITELY "entitled" to be PISSED OFF over the WORST record in UK Basketball history this season!!!

It's a culmination of things that have built up over the previous 4 seasons that have gotten the disgruntled portion of the fan base where we are today with Cal.

The ONUS is SQUARELY on Cal's shoulders to FIX IT!!
 
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RunninRichie

Heisman
Sep 5, 2019
28,574
68,154
113
2010-15
190-38 for 83.3%
#1 seeds: 3
NCAAT: 21-4 for 84%
Elite 8: 5
Final 4: 4
Title games: 2
Titles: 1
Vs AP Top 25: 41-14 for 74.5%
vs Top Rivals: 38-11 for 77.6%

2016-21:
145-49 for 74.7%
#1 seeds: 0
NCAAT: 9-4 for 69.2%
Elite 8: 2
Final 4: 0
Vs AP top 25: 22-23 for 48.9
vs Top Rivals: 22-23 for 48.9%
 
May 4, 2015
10,510
13,572
86
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
When Cal uses the term "GOLD STANDARD" of college basketball while making MORE MONEY than Nick Saban without ONE THIRD of the results of Nick Saban, UK fans that FOOT THE BILL for that contract, are MOST DEFINITELY "entitled" to be PISSED OFF over the WORST record in UK Basketball history this season!!!

It's a culmination of things that have built up over the previous 4 seasons that have gotten the disgruntled portion of the fan base where we are today with Cal.

The ONUS is SQUARELY on Cal's shoulders to FIX IT!!

UK fans don't foot the bill for his contract. UK pays Cal $400k a year.
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
2010-15
190-38 for 83.3%
#1 seeds: 3
NCAAT: 21-4 for 84%
Elite 8: 5
Final 4: 4
Title games: 2
Titles: 1
Vs AP Top 25: 41-14 for 74.5%
vs Top Rivals: 38-11 for 77.6%

2016-21:
145-49 for 74.7%
#1 seeds: 0
NCAAT: 9-4 for 69.2%
Elite 8: 2
Final 4: 0
Vs AP top 25: 22-23 for 48.9
vs Top Rivals: 22-23 for 48.9%

He just forgot how to coach.
 
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HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
When Cal uses the term "GOLD STANDARD" of college basketball while making MORE MONEY than Nick Saban without ONE THIRD of the results of Nick Saban, UK fans that FOOT THE BILL for that contract, are MOST DEFINITELY "entitled" to be PISSED OFF over the WORST record in UK Basketball history this season!!!

It's a culmination of things that have built up over the previous 4 seasons that have gotten the disgruntled portion of the fan base where we are today with Cal.

The ONUS is SQUARELY on Cal's shoulders to FIX IT!!

Agree with your last line.
 

KyFaninNC

Heisman
Mar 14, 2005
195,719
24,518
0
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
Mmm. Yes. Thank you, Ellen. I feel much better now.
 

LowCountryCat

Heisman
Apr 17, 2010
117,188
22,769
0
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
Instant gratification? It's been 9 YEARS since we won a title. If you don't see that we are trending downward, you can't even walk to the drinking fountain without falling down.
 

know1

Heisman
Dec 8, 2002
12,855
14,925
0
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
Go find another program to root for. Accepting and justifying this crap will kill our program.
 

UK90

Heisman
Dec 30, 2007
31,460
27,814
0
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk.
Spare me the “one“ bad season nonsense. Cal has had other bad seasons by UK standards. Examples include the 2013 team that flamed out in the first round of the NIT to Robert Morris, the dysfunctional mess that was the 2018 season, the 2016 team that flamed out in the first weekend to a mediocre IU team, etc. The problem with this season is not merely that it’s been “bad”, but rather an epic disaster the likes of which we’ve never seen here before.

The program has been on a six-year downward slide. We have a losing record against the top 25 over the last six years, and have been getting positively owned by other top tier programs (not to mention also some non-traditional powers like Tennessee and Auburn). The program’s performance over the last six years would not be considered acceptable for other UK coaches, and it shouldn’t be for this one either. Especially since he shows no inclination toward changing anything.

That said, it’s silly and futile to even talk about him being fired right now. Because he has a contract that essentially makes it impossible for him to be fired. Neither UK nor anyone else can pay a $52.5 million buyout.
 
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warrior-cat

Hall of Famer
Oct 22, 2004
191,623
156,176
113
You guys have allowed one bad season to overtake all of the good that Cal has brought to Uk. All of the elite players that have ran through this program with KP and WWW being Cal's wingmen. I'm not advocating for people to be sunshine pumpers and act like this is acceptable at Uk, but some of you are showing your true identity in wanting instant gratification and think you're entitled to greatness every single season and every single game.

I'm not saying we shouldn't want to win every single game, obviously we should, but I'm rather talking to the one's who want Cal fired after all of the good he has done for us by simply pushing that aside and thinking only in the present.

Now, could my opinion change if next season is worse or the same? Yes. It will start to change, but even then 2 bad seasons doesn't equate to being fired with the milestones and achievements he has accomplished here thus far.

I do feel like we are beginning to see his true inability to coach late game situations. We don't have the talent to bail us out late game when things are not going our way. That is certainly something Cal could improve on. Especially with the talent coming in next year not looking outstanding. That is something he will have to change because right now other coaches are coaching circles around him in the final 8 minutes. I think part of that is the absence of Kenny Payne. I do think he did a lot, or suggested a lot of the in-game adjustments.

Overall, the same ones who want him fired are the same ones who would be calling him the GOAT if we won out from here. It all comes down to entitlement. It seems like some of your lives depend on Uk winning or losing.

Obviously he has said a lot of stupid crap this season and has handled the Allen situation poorly, but after the first few games, Allen looks very one-dimensional. He can shoot, and then what? He certainly can't play defense.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Some of ya'll need to look in the mirror, lol. I'm no sunshine pumper by any means, and the season we are having is beyond horrible, but it is completely unreasonable and rather selfish to want Cal fired after this season when he has brought a lot of us our greatest moments.
Stop writing books or acting superior. Knowing this "was" a sunshine post ragging on disappointed fans, I did not read it. Brevity is your friend.
 
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warrior-cat

Hall of Famer
Oct 22, 2004
191,623
156,176
113
2010-15
190-38 for 83.3%
#1 seeds: 3
NCAAT: 21-4 for 84%
Elite 8: 5
Final 4: 4
Title games: 2
Titles: 1
Vs AP Top 25: 41-14 for 74.5%
vs Top Rivals: 38-11 for 77.6%

2016-21:
145-49 for 74.7%
#1 seeds: 0
NCAAT: 9-4 for 69.2%
Elite 8: 2
Final 4: 0
Vs AP top 25: 22-23 for 48.9
vs Top Rivals: 22-23 for 48.9%
Didn't you hear? One down year does not mean we have been deteriorating these past 5 years...oh wait...nevermind.
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
You can cut out the “one“ bad season nonsense. Cal has had other bad seasons by UK standards. Other examples include the 2013 team that flamed out in the first round of the NIT to Robert Morris, the dysfunctional mess that was the 2018 season, and the 2016 team that flamed out in the first weekend to a mediocre IU team. The problem with this season is not merely that it’s been “bad”, but rather an epic disaster the likes of which we’ve never seen here before.

The truth is the program has been on a six-year downward slide. We have a losing record against the top 25 during the last six years, and have been getting positively owned by other top tier programs (not to mention also some non-traditional powers like Tennessee in Auburn). It’s perfectly acceptable for the fans to be mighty pissed off about that downward trend in recent years, especially since Cal shows no inclination toward changing anything, and there’s no indication that the downward slide will reverse course.

That said, it’s silly and futile to even talk about him being fired right now. Because he has a contract that essentially makes it impossible for him to be fired. Neither UK nor anyone else can pay a $52.5 million buyout.

It all boils down to tourney success. That is all anyone cares about at the end of the day.

2011 and 2014 sucked worse than 2017/2019/2020, but the first two made final four....these are just facts.
 

UK90

Heisman
Dec 30, 2007
31,460
27,814
0
2011 and 2014 sucked worse than 2017/2019/2020, but the first two made final four....these are just facts.
Yeah, it is kinda funny how our fans have forgotten what a horribly disappointing and miserable regular season the 2014 team had. 2014 is now remembered as a good season, but if Aaron Harrison hadn’t hit those amazing last-second shots, that season would be remembered TOTALLY differently.
 

CELTICAT

Heisman
May 21, 2002
19,213
18,717
113
Cal Huggers: iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2013 with the NIT?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2016 with 9 losses and a second round exit to IU?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2018 with a four game SEC losing streak, 11 losses and totally blowing an easy final four birth?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about, and this isn’t hyperbole, the worst team in program history?

Cal huggers: yEaH hE’s eArNeD tHiS wItH hIs sUcCsEsS hErE!
 

hoggwildcat

All-Conference
Apr 7, 2013
2,025
1,594
113
All you I want to fire or last five year people, here is a list of top 13 coaches in the last 10 years
13. Chris Beard
12. Brad Steven's
11. Billy Donavan
10. Tom Izzo
9. Sean Miller
8. Bill Self
7. John Beilein
6. Mark Few
5. Coach K
4. Roy Williams
3. Cal
2. Tony Bennett
1. Jay Wright

Now, out of all these coaches, you would have to exclude our coach, the about to retire coaches, and about to be in trouble by the NCAA coaches. That leaves you with Beard, Stevens, Donavon, Izzo, Few, Bennett, and Wright.
Which one of these coaches would leave their existing positions, could do a better job, and win a title every 8 years? (Unless there is somebody else I missed)
 
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woodberry79

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Nov 15, 2019
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All you I want to fire or last five year people, here is a list of top 13 coaches in the last 10 years
13. Chris Beard
12. Brad Steven's
11. Billy Donavan
10. Tom Izzo
9. Sean Miller
8. Bill Self
7. John Beilein
6. Mark Few
5. Coach K
4. Roy Williams
3. Cal
2. Tony Bennett
1. Jay Wright

Now, out of all these coaches, you would have to exclude our coach, the about to retire coaches, and about to be in trouble by the NCAA coaches. That leaves you with Beard, Stevens, Donavon, Izzo, Few, Bennett, and Wright.
Which one of these coaches would leave their existing positions, could do a better job, and win a title every 8 years? (Unless there is somebody else I missed)
Wut?
 

know1

Heisman
Dec 8, 2002
12,855
14,925
0
All you I want to fire or last five year people, here is a list of top 13 coaches in the last 10 years
13. Chris Beard
12. Brad Steven's
11. Billy Donavan
10. Tom Izzo
9. Sean Miller
8. Bill Self
7. John Beilein
6. Mark Few
5. Coach K
4. Roy Williams
3. Cal
2. Tony Bennett
1. Jay Wright

Now, out of all these coaches, you would have to exclude our coach, the about to retire coaches, and about to be in trouble by the NCAA coaches. That leaves you with Beard, Stevens, Donavon, Izzo, Few, Bennett, and Wright.
Which one of these coaches would leave their existing positions, could do a better job, and win a title every 8 years? (Unless there is somebody else I missed)
Which coach could do better than essentially the worst season in program history? Um, all of them.
 

Jont0805

All-Conference
Mar 25, 2019
1,010
1,615
0
All you I want to fire or last five year people, here is a list of top 13 coaches in the last 10 years
13. Chris Beard
12. Brad Steven's
11. Billy Donavan
10. Tom Izzo
9. Sean Miller
8. Bill Self
7. John Beilein
6. Mark Few
5. Coach K
4. Roy Williams
3. Cal
2. Tony Bennett
1. Jay Wright

Now, out of all these coaches, you would have to exclude our coach, the about to retire coaches, and about to be in trouble by the NCAA coaches. That leaves you with Beard, Stevens, Donavon, Izzo, Few, Bennett, and Wright.
Which one of these coaches would leave their existing positions, could do a better job, and win a title every 8 years? (Unless there is somebody else I missed)

How many titles did Joe B hall have before he coached at kentucky? What about Pitino? Tubby Smith? Cal coached how many years before UK and how many titles?

Why do fans of our program not realize that UK makes coaches, not the other way around. Literally every coach who was sober on the sidelines in the last 70 plus years has won a title. You could take a guy off the top 100 coaches list and now it’s a good possibility they could win at kentucky. You could take a middle school PE teacher and go 5-11 with this team. Coach Cal isn’t the end all be all of our program.

I’m not saying fire cal, I think the disrespect he has shown fans this year with the weird “hard schedule comment” and everything he says after the games now has really turned a lot of people off. When you couple that with 5-11 I don’t know how anyone defends this man.
 
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FrankUnderwood

Heisman
May 26, 2017
15,912
27,971
0
How many titles did Joe B hall have before he won his? What about Pitino? Tubby Smith? Cal coached how many years before UK and how many titles?

Why do fans of our program not realize that UK makes coaches, not the other way around. Literally every coach who was sober on the sidelines in the last 70 plus years has won a title. You could take a guy off the top 100 coaches list and now it’s a good possibility they could win at kentucky. You could take a middle school PE teacher and go 5-11 with this team. Coach Cal isn’t the end all be all of our program.

I’m not saying fire cal, I think the disrespect he has shown fans this year with the weird “hard schedule comment” and everything he says after the games now has really turned a lot of people off. When you couple that with 5-11 I don’t know how anyone defends this man.

5-12 now brother!
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
Cal Huggers: iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2013 with the NIT?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2016 with 9 losses and a second round exit to IU?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about 2018 with a four game SEC losing streak, 11 losses and totally blowing an easy final four birth?

Cal Huggers: tHaT dOeSn’T cOuNT, iTs jUsT oNe bAd sEaSoN!

UK fans: what about, and this isn’t hyperbole, the worst team in program history?

Cal huggers: yEaH hE’s eArNeD tHiS wItH hIs sUcCsEsS hErE!

You are such a better fan than anyone who supports our coach and program....smh.