"I said to the staff before the game that I hope he goes big because we needed to win."
Yep, they where but I am not sure were they we're said.
"I said to the staff before the game that I hope he goes big because we needed to win."
Anyone with eyes can see Allen is a better player than Clarke and Boston. So whatever you thought about needing Clarke and Boston to play well, you can say that about Allen. Boston does not need to be what we thought he would be to win an SEC championship. Allen has to be what we thought Boston would be, and Boston can be what many thought Allen would be (a bench player who gets 5-10 minutes).Time to be fair to Cal. He did insert Allen early in the first half . And yes he would have stuck with Boston but he knows we cannot win an SEC championship without getting Clarke and Boston performing as well. Allen is not going to get 15-20 every game.
I get your argument about playing the players with the “most upside”. However, how does one say that Boston or Clarke has more upside than Allen? Is it ranking in high school and/ or AAU ball or is it the proficiency demonstrated in practice and games? As someone in another thread said, Cal seems to play the more assertive players over more timid players. This usually works out, but sometimes the more timid players play smarter and are better shooters.I’m not going to go back through threads as I don’t have the time to waste on that, but as I recall I had seen 15-20 separate instances insisting that Cal is doing this for reasons other than at the end of the season putting the best roster on the floor. Again his strategy has to do with giving players with the most upside the most minutes to get them experience, not spiting the fans, players from KY, playing favorites or any of the other conspiracy theories going around.
I totally understand disagreeing with or plain hating that strategy but argue the strategy not conspiracies.
because, facts do make for good agendas... and the subject must get back to why Cal sucksWhy exactly is this in reply to my post? I made no statement on being for or against a certain strategy and simply pointed out actual facts.
player or shooter?Anyone with eyes can see Allen is a better player than Clarke and Boston. So whatever you thought about needing Clarke and Boston to play well, you can say that about Allen. Boston does not need to be what we thought he would be to win an SEC championship. Allen has to be what we thought Boston would be, and Boston can be what many thought Allen would be (a bench player who gets 5-10 minutes).
Actually, earlier in the season, in those first few games where Allen got playing time, I would have made the opposite statement. I would have said "Anyone with eyes can see Clarke and Boston are better players than Allen." I would have said they're not even in the same category of player. I still wouldn't say Allen is so obviously a better player. I would say he's a better shooter. That much truly is obvious after seeing Allen's game against Miss St. I just hope he keeps playing the same way. What was almost as impressive to me about Allen's improvement is that he didn't just shoot the ball with more confidence, he played better defense, he rebounded, he played well with teammates, and etc. He looked better all the way around. So, NOW, I would partially agree with you. Allen does have the potential to be the permanent starter at small forward. I think he should start against Vandy. I hope he does.Anyone with eyes can see Allen is a better player than Clarke and Boston. So whatever you thought about needing Clarke and Boston to play well, you can say that about Allen. Boston does not need to be what we thought he would be to win an SEC championship. Allen has to be what we thought Boston would be, and Boston can be what many thought Allen would be (a bench player who gets 5-10 minutes).
I think he’s a better player than Boston, and a better shooter than Clarke but Clarke probably does some things Allen can’t.player or shooter?
How could you have judged before the Mississippi State game? He had a season high of 8 minutes before that. He’s a good player and has been a good player and will be a good player. He didn’t just become a good player before the Miss St game, and if he only plays 5 minutes next game, it doesn’t mean he’s a bad player now.Actually, earlier in the season, in those first few games where Allen got playing time, I would have made the opposite statement. I would have said "Anyone with eyes can see Clarke and Boston are better players than Allen." I would have said they're not even in the same category of player. I still wouldn't say Allen is so obviously a better player. I would say he's a better shooter. That much truly is obvious after seeing Allen's game against Miss St. I just hope he keeps playing the same way. What was almost as impressive to me about Allen's improvement is that he didn't just shoot the ball with more confidence, he played better defense, he rebounded, he played well with teammates, and etc. He looked better all the way around. So, NOW, I would partially agree with you. Allen does have the potential to be the permanent starter at small forward. I think he should start against Vandy. I hope he does.
Actually, earlier in the season, in those first few games where Allen got playing time, I would have made the opposite statement. I would have said "Anyone with eyes can see Clarke and Boston are better players than Allen." I would have said they're not even in the same category of player. I still wouldn't say Allen is so obviously a better player. I would say he's a better shooter. That much truly is obvious after seeing Allen's game against Miss St. I just hope he keeps playing the same way. What was almost as impressive to me about Allen's improvement is that he didn't just shoot the ball with more confidence, he played better defense, he rebounded, he played well with teammates, and etc. He looked better all the way around. So, NOW, I would partially agree with you. Allen does have the potential to be the permanent starter at small forward. I think he should start against Vandy. I hope he does.
That in bold is funny my man, never heard that saying. Thanks. [roll][roll]I said the same thing about Miller and you would not believe the consternation it caused on the board. I was pretty much flamed and called everything but a good milk cow for my comment but he was a big factor in our National Title win.
I’m not sure that was said or not but you’re being disingenuous here. Allen checked in first with about 12:30 left in the first half when he almost immediately hit a 3. I’m almost certain he was subbed in at least 3 times in the first half. He had made his 2nd 3 pointer prior to Cal getting ejected. Cal was playing him and all of you strange folks that think he doesn’t want Dontaie to be good so he can play Boston and Clarke more are insane. Would Cal have benched Boston like Bruiser did? I doubt it, but to say Allen didn’t get in until nearly halftime is absolute horse pucky.
Actually, earlier in the season, in those first few games where Allen got playing time, I would have made the opposite statement. I would have said "Anyone with eyes can see Clarke and Boston are better players than Allen." I would have said they're not even in the same category of player. I still wouldn't say Allen is so obviously a better player. I would say he's a better shooter. That much truly is obvious after seeing Allen's game against Miss St. I just hope he keeps playing the same way. What was almost as impressive to me about Allen's improvement is that he didn't just shoot the ball with more confidence, he played better defense, he rebounded, he played well with teammates, and etc. He looked better all the way around. So, NOW, I would partially agree with you. Allen does have the potential to be the permanent starter at small forward. I think he should start against Vandy. I hope he does.
You're just wrong here. It's obvious he wants to tank the season and have Clarke and Boston go 2nd round because of their bad showing.But no one actually believe Donte's Coach was holding him out to push him.
I go back to Dante's tweet over Christmas...you know the one everyone thought meant he was transferring. He knew he had to get better in areas to play. His tweet was about really putting the work in the areas that kept him from playing. Shooting was NEVER one of them. And kudos to the kid because he is starting to understand defensive rotations now.
Bottom line...Coach Cal pushed the kid. Said he was getting better & would soon get his chance. Cal gave it to him putting him in early & then again in 2nd half. Donte did well.
But....our know it all fans think Cal did not want Dante to do well...lol.
Da da da...Captain Save-a-ho to the rescue! Trying to snitch on someone just because you don't agree with their point of view. Bet you still have the list of names of the kids that were talking, when the teacher left the classroom!
Unwarranted dumping? Lost 6 games in a row, don't deserve being dumped on? But I agree with you, if you want this board to be nothing but sunshine pumping, then everyone critical of Cal should banned.
Damn. Touché.Yep, they where but I am not sure were they we're said.
"I said to the staff before the game that I hope he goes big because we needed to win."
I can't take credit for that, lol. It came from my roommate at UK during the late '70's. However, I'm sure he would gladly give you permission to use it.That in bold is funny my man, never heard that saying. Thanks. [roll][roll]
Eh, some people fear any type if ripples in the water and some of these guys don't know how to form their own opinons. They're followers and Cal is an easy leader to latch on to. He tells when what is right and wrong at they hang on every word.Unwarranted dumping? Lost 6 games in a row, don't deserve being dumped on? But I agree with you, if you want this board to be nothing but sunshine pumping, then everyone critical of Cal should banned.
Great post.His strategy is simple to understand and I can’t figure out why this board doesn’t get it.
He plays freshman that, with heavy minutes, will outperform other players given the same number of minutes at the END of the season, often at the cost of early performance and yes, even wins.
He’s pretty good at ascertaining which players will be the best by seasons end but he doesn’t always get it right.
And you must not have read the board much if you missed the constant posts about Cal being pissed in the locker room every time Allen scored and how he was going to have to stick it to the fans and not play him even more now to prove a point that he was right about Boston and Clarke.
Cal may not always play the player that is best right now but he doesn’t actively hope his bench performs poorly, fact.
I used to take my kids to Sewell’s store at Waterview for lunch. They always got baloney and crackers. Boyd would always slice it extra thick for them. Some twenty years later, they still rave about how good it was. Miss those old country stores something awful. And lots of Cats discussion always going on. You can bet a few posters on here would get their clocks cleaned back then for the way they talked to others on here. Totally different world now.As a kid growing up in Marrowbone. We would leave the fields and go to Stovers grocery for lunch, usually bologna. We always called it Barren County ham, since we couldn’t afford real ham. Nell Stover would ask you how thick you wanted it and cut it off a big loaf.
Damn. Touché.
Yes i see him as darius miller type if it was not for him we would not have won in 2012 was miller time when he checked in