Can We FIRE Cal Yet?
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Maybe the coach of Ga. State or Mercer. The two teams that beat Ga. Tech this year?
Cal's system is antithetical to the way we've always viewed winning. In sports, traditionally, you understand to put the team first. Cal reversed this concept, and we are now paying for it.
These players are not playing for Kentucky. They don't understand Kentucky, they're 18, and their coach has promoted an entirely different league to them.
If you really think about it, we've been living in a dream world of coach speak. You cannot win big by way of Cal's operation. He was able to offset this early by obtaining many top 3 players, that's not happening now. His style is too old.
We're approaching a reality check that I fear has been coming for a long time.
I think he needs to scream louder
josh partner could do a better job at this point. He just spanked cal. I mean stop seriously your looking like buffoon: .
Not trying to pile on but this is the softest ky team i've ever seen and i have followed them since 1952, not to mention there is no point guard, you don't win without a good point guard.
They're just losing to hurt Richmond, Kansas, and GA Tech RPI. It's all part of a plan. Lol 
They're just losing to hurt Richmond, Kansas, and GA Tech RPI. It's all part of a plan. Lol
Trust in Cal.
March matters!
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make em drink
JP? That’s who you want? Lol
you don’t fire the winningest coach in the last decade without having a damn good replacement. When you dump a girl, you trade up. Josh pastner is not trading up.
Im not ready to fire him but, damn lumping this team in with last 3 teams... it looks like we are certainly on a decline
Seriously, wtf has Cal done worth a **** since 2015? Even that year ended up with a failure and underachieving in the ncaa’s.
we’ve been EMBARRASSED 3 straight years in November and now December. GT had two losses to teams wayyyy worse than Richmond and they just beat the **** out of us. Josh freaking Pastner made Cal look like a chump.
100% serious, I’d be willing to totally blow up the program (Fire coaches, players can go pro, lose commitments) if it meant Cal got out of here. Cal is going to leave us totally screwed when he leaves anyway. The whole team will go pro but this time nobody is here to bring players in. So might as well get the process started.
Hell the freaking football team has a better outlook than the bball team.
we’ve been EMBARRASSED 3 straight years in November and now December. GT had two losses to teams wayyyy worse than Richmond and they just beat the **** out of us. Josh freaking Pastner made Cal look like a chump.
100% serious, I’d be willing to totally blow up the program (Fire coaches, players can go pro, lose commitments) if it meant Cal got out of here. Cal is going to leave us totally screwed when he leaves anyway. The whole team will go pro but this time nobody is here to bring players in. So might as well get the process started.
Hell the freaking football team has a better outlook than the bball team.
Yeah it does, it says that many of us don’t even care who we hire at this point as long as Cal is GONE!
You guys have to accept that Cal isn't going anywhere until Cal decides to
The only thing you can do as fans is help him decide.
Personally, I would be satisfied if Cal apologized for this, admitting that this one and done process has spiraled out of control and is not what he envisioned, and will vow to fix it.
But he isn't going to do that, he's all in and has too much pride. He'll tell the fans we are unrealistic, he'll fall back into the "these are kids" and somehow he'll manage to tell us that Askew should be starting his senior year as if that was out of his control as the coach.
The only thing you can do as fans is help him decide.
Personally, I would be satisfied if Cal apologized for this, admitting that this one and done process has spiraled out of control and is not what he envisioned, and will vow to fix it.
But he isn't going to do that, he's all in and has too much pride. He'll tell the fans we are unrealistic, he'll fall back into the "these are kids" and somehow he'll manage to tell us that Askew should be starting his senior year as if that was out of his control as the coach.
Yeah that screaming on the sidelines is past getting old
I’m not advocating firing Cal. But you could quite literally name any 5 coaches right now.
Scott Rigot
Reggie Hanson
Jeremy Cox
Billy Clyde
Tubby Smith
All currently better coaches. If you simply want mid-major coaches. Then pick any 5 coaches from the Atlantic-10. Calipari’s coaching right now goes beyond bad. He’s not even trying. Hiring Bruiser Flint this offseason was a huge middle finger to everyone associated. And he’s too stubborn to realize he is the problem.
Oh, its coming, like the oak tree an out of control car is about to hit.
IMO, at best any replacement would be a gatekeeper. There is no obvious choice like Calipari was in 2009
Just because we're a national embarrassment basketball program at the moment is no reason to push for knee jerk action. That's how you end up with nut like Gillispie.
The next coach needs to be able to field a team, bring them to the final four, all while managing the most intense (well it was, not sure now) fanbase/expectations in college basketball, maybe in all of college sports.
Too many fans think the flavor of the moment can pull this off just because he had a good year at state U.
We would have never heard of Gillispie if it weren't for Acie Law.
Just because we're a national embarrassment basketball program at the moment is no reason to push for knee jerk action. That's how you end up with nut like Gillispie.
The next coach needs to be able to field a team, bring them to the final four, all while managing the most intense (well it was, not sure now) fanbase/expectations in college basketball, maybe in all of college sports.
Too many fans think the flavor of the moment can pull this off just because he had a good year at state U.
We would have never heard of Gillispie if it weren't for Acie Law.
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In response to both of your posts.
Yes, Cal can still be removed, but it will take an NIT this year and a bad season next year. That's probably going to happen.
Cal will leave on his own if he thinks this is coming. His brand in the only thing that's important to him. He'll land in the NBA.
If the fans apply mad pressure, which they are about to, his hand becomes even more forced. Changing will not happen with John Calipari. You have to think you're doing wrong to change, he doesn't. Cal is doing exactly what he wanted to do.
1. Be the go to guy for NBA players
2. Cement a legacy as the guy who coaches OAD's
3. Make a **** ton of money doing it
This is how his story was meant to be written. Cal stopped caring about wins and losses a long time ago, he cares about his personal crusade to be the NBA players coach, regardless of outcomes.
It turned into being about relationships with Cal after 2010. He was able to win because he landed top 3 players. That's over, but his point is still to have these relationships. It's just about his lifestyle.
I hate it, Cal suckered a lot of people with this crap.
Beard would be a fantastic choice. I would be beside myself. Back to team concepts, Kentucky first, a hungry young proven coach, and one of the best in the game right now.
He's at TT, so we've yet to see what this guy is capable of. If we want him, you better get him before Kansas does.
Don’t know if he qualifies for the job though because he hasn’t won 5 championships and 10 final fours at Texas Tech.
yea, its coming
people stuck at home, can't leave the house, frustrated about life in general - and for some the only thing they had to look forward to this fall is a dumpster fire in front of them.
It will be bad.
and on top of that, Covid has wrecked revenues for athletics and you have the football team tanking (notice they decided they *would* go to a bowl game today*) and now it looks like revenue will be severely impacted by the basketball team not making a deep run.
wow, its a perfect storm for the pitchforks and torches. Cal has no idea what is about to hit.
Well, that’s a nice thought, but I think you’re nuts if you truly believe Carl’s gonna walk away from the crazy money still owed on that contract just “to do the right thing.” People don’t walk away from a guaranteed $70-$80 million. Would you?
The only way I could see Cal leaving is if an NBA team offered him a comparable amount. But I don’t see that happening, as Cal is no longer the hot commodity he was several years ago.
LIke it or not, UK and Cal are probably stuck together for years to come, even if the two sides don’t really want it that way. That contract binds us together, it makes it impossible for us to fire him, and he’s still owed too much to walk away.
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Nope! Worst type of fans show up on the message board after a loss. Go root for someone else. Same fans will be on here in March saying we can win it all. How do you quit on a coach and a team that has played 4 games?
Well, I don't think we can know anything. Maybe Donovan goes to 3 NIT's at UK to start his career, maybe Self would have sucked when he left Illinios for Kansas.
Beard looks to be the real deal. That's what I'd go with, The upside is huge. I see now way it could be worse than holding serve at UK.
But Cal is a religious figure now, a morality man. He wouldn't force UK to keep him, would he?
That great Athletic Director and his great extensions for both our basketball coach and football coach! Neither one had done anything fantastic to deserve the kind of extentions he handed the both of them!
Dude I’ve been saying this for well over 2-3 years now. It’s not just because we are 1-3.