When are we going to be honest.

Oneandnotdone38

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Feb 2, 2020
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.
 

Pete391

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Feb 10, 2018
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.
I dont see it as being above average, but just average..
 

Oneandnotdone38

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Feb 2, 2020
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But the good thing is nobody else is very good either. Means we can BEAT anyone and Lose to anyone. We just want a level playing field when it comes to the Officials. Just be Consistent!!

But can this team win 6 or 7 in a row against quality opponents? Because I'm starting to doubt that they can. I don't see this being the 2014 group. That team was super talented it just took them a while to figure it out.

Last years team was much better.
 

dcw62

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Oct 4, 2005
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I said before the season started that unless E.J did a 180,this team would be an average team,at best.Nick's improvement has been a nice suprise.But just too many inconsistencies to be considered a serious title threat at this point
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,113
28,693
113
This team has improved a great deal. They went on the road against a Top 15 team and lost a close game. Auburn shot 40+ FT's and Hagans played 20 minutes.

This isn't Cals best team or his worst team and it has deficiencies. However you said it in your post OP...3 good guards and Richards, that cannot be discounted.

We will need timely shots and consistency in tournament, no doubt, but the above is more than enough to carry us deep in tournament especially this year.
 

etowncatfan

All-American
Jan 3, 2003
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But can this team win 6 or 7 in a row against quality opponents? Because I'm starting to doubt that they can. I don't see this being the 2014 group. That team was super talented it just took them a while to figure it out.

Last years team was much better.


On a positive side we have been in the game with a chance to win in all our losses to the good teams we have played. There are no super star studded teams out there this year imo. So that being said. Get a favorable draw close to home. Get by the first 3 games. Then play out of your mind for 3 games. It can be done. I really think we can play with anyone.
 

NCPurplecat

All-Conference
Aug 3, 2019
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Road games against ranked teams are tough. UK played Auburn to the wire and has way more upside. The posts have many important statements. We have good guards plus Nick. Cal needs a tweak and step up from Sestina and Ej to fill the 4 and rest Nick at at 5. Need Brrooks and Juzang to at least contribute as 7 and 8 guys in the rotation. There are no Elite Teams this year. UK will be as good as any but no team looks like they can win 6 in a row vs. Tourney competition. Only 1 team will. It will be EJ who needs to be the March surprise. Last year Reid filled the PF gap. Have not dine that yet this year.
 

Randy Bob

All-Conference
Jun 14, 2009
7,280
4,025
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This team can be a good team but not a great team we can blame the refs but they do not ever give us a break but I sure other teams feel that way too but last night Hagan did not have a good game and did not get the ball to Richards hard to understand why and Ky bigs could not get rebounds.
 

MadaboutBlue

All-Conference
Mar 12, 2017
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But the good thing is nobody else is very good either. Means we can BEAT anyone and Lose to anyone. We just want a level playing field when it comes to the Officials. Just be Consistent!!

We aren't quite as bad as some are making us out to be. Maybe I'm growing older or more cynical, but I don't really see anyone that's amazing out there. Yesterday, three big east teams that were supposed to be pretty good got waxed at home.
 

Montana81

Heisman
Aug 12, 2004
82,726
29,410
113
I'm seeing people thinking we are championship contenders. Even in a weak year. We aren't close imo.

Maybe Cal has a tweak up his sleeve. But not much you can do when our bench is so useless.

The majority think 2016 and 2018 were championship contenders as well.
 
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Yep don't have the guy we can depend on for points when the going gets tough. Too many mental mistakes, bad shot selection poor rebounding and defensive lapses. How many times last night did we give up a rebound and then foul immediately it had to be a dozen times
 

Mike-D

Heisman
Jul 14, 2001
50,359
75,320
113
Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.

What do you propose then? Should we just cancel the whole GD season? Or are you just here to cry?
 

carolinacat

All-Conference
Nov 7, 2007
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We're a good team...not great. Anyone that says otherwise is simply a troll or is too mentally challenged to look at our resume.
 
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willyclyde

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Feb 25, 2007
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Always Mr. Debbie Downer. Do you enjoy always being miserable?
Just speaking the truth, not living in a fantasy land where I make myself believe we have a good team. Cal needs to do better, period. Guess you (and many like you) were happy tubbys last few years too?
 

Whatsup

All-American
Feb 15, 2011
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8,085
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Just speaking the truth, not living in a fantasy land where I make myself believe we have a good team. Cal needs to do better, period. Guess you (and many like you) were happy tubbys last few years too?
I’m not a Tubby fan but you must be. Your avatar gives you away. I agree Cal and our team need to do better.
 

HerrosHeroes

Heisman
Aug 16, 2018
27,234
38,039
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Just speaking the truth, not living in a fantasy land where I make myself believe we have a good team. Cal needs to do better, period. Guess you (and many like you) were happy tubbys last few years too?
Whats fantasy about our big wins, playing a tough schedule since mid Dec and playing 5 of the last 8 on the road with 2 of those 5 v teams ranked nationally in the top 18 and yet still managed to go 6-2 during that stretch and are 16-5 overall?

Make no mistake about it, this team is good, tough and battle tested and will continue to be with ranked teams at LSU and Auburn still on the schedule.

We must stay healthy and stay the course while peaking in the post season.
 
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But the good thing is nobody else is very good either. Means we can BEAT anyone and Lose to anyone. We just want a level playing field when it comes to the Officials. Just be Consistent!!

this. There’s not a team in the country that is head and shoulders above the rest. I’ve seen too many Kentucky teams look sloppy in the first half of conference play and then find a groove later on. I won’t hit the panic button until we start dropping games to the bottom half of the league in the next few weeks. Otherwise we’re a talented team with probably the SEC player of the year. We good guys.
 
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nssdigitalchumps

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Jul 29, 2008
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.

I'm so glad you're here to wake us up. Gosh, thanks.
 

JASUN74

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May 22, 2008
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But can this team win 6 or 7 in a row against quality opponents? Because I'm starting to doubt that they can. I don't see this being the 2014 group. That team was super talented it just took them a while to figure it out.

Last years team was much better.

Thing is, It is what it is! We have who we have and we got to go with it. What should they do, Give Up? I may agree with you if the tournament started today, but we have another month to get things fixed! I believe Cal can get more done in less time than any coach in the country so we’ll be better by then anyway!

I understand everyone having doubts and we’ve definitely had a weird season, We do still have some time to change things for the better though. I just don’t see any team in the country and think if we’re playing our best that we don’t have a chance to win!! Who knows, we may hear Monday that they’re all going to just try again next year and forfeit the rest of the season!! Until I hear that, I’ve got to think they’ll fight and get back to work. Now I know you never said to quit, but the season isn’t over yet! Thanks, and Go Cats!
 

Allcats08

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Feb 13, 2019
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But the good thing is nobody else is very good either. Means we can BEAT anyone and Lose to anyone. We just want a level playing field when it comes to the Officials. Just be Consistent!!
I don’t know why these people who keep crying that we’re average or not special don’t understand this. We’ve proven we can beat anyone. Everyone obviously knows this team isn’t special but it doesn’t have to be.
 
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seccats04

Heisman
Dec 6, 2004
14,479
23,309
113
I'm seeing people thinking we are championship contenders. Even in a weak year. We aren't close imo.

Maybe Cal has a tweak up his sleeve. But not much you can do when our bench is so useless.
Crazy to think about since our rotation is nothing but 5 star and high 4 star guys. I think we have a talent evaluation problem. Too many non-contributors.
 

Ben101er

Heisman
Apr 21, 2004
25,677
60,417
103
I suppose you have to be relative when you assess how good this team is. No, you cannot compare this team to the 2015 team, but, there are no teams out there that you can compare to that team, either. This is a down year for quality teams, and any of 18-20 teams could get hot in March and win a NC.

We may as well get used to it, because almost every school is beginning to play a lot of freshmen, and starting in 2022, a lot of the best freshmen will go straight to the draft and by-pass college. Once that happens it will get worse. So, is this team good? Judging by this year's teams, we are capable of winning a NC. Are we 2015 good? Not close. But no one is.
 

sluggercatfan

Heisman
Aug 17, 2004
35,953
29,631
0
Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.
Who recruited and coaches these guys/team ? They are ALL a part of a t5 recruiting classes. How many of the teams that have beaten us have that?
 

KUhawks34

Heisman
Dec 29, 2006
174,661
46,854
81
I suppose you have to be relative when you assess how good this team is. No, you cannot compare this team to the 2015 team, but, there are no teams out there that you can compare to that team, either. This is a down year for quality teams, and any of 18-20 teams could get hot in March and win a NC.

We may as well get used to it, because almost every school is beginning to play a lot of freshmen, and starting in 2022, a lot of the best freshmen will go straight to the draft and by-pass college. Once that happens it will get worse. So, is this team good? Judging by this year's teams, we are capable of winning a NC. Are we 2015 good? Not close. But no one is.
Exactly it’s all relative. Personally I don’t think UK is all that great. They just aren’t great defensively or offensively. I think Kansas is one of the best teams but we could literally lose to anyone. The field just isn’t that strong. Just about anyone can get hot at the right time.

No sense in freaking out all season because most of the teams will have more ups and downs than a usual national championship team.
 

JRS_SC

All-Conference
Jan 2, 2003
2,102
1,459
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.

what time is the championship game next week? Sorry UK couldn’t reach its peak by the first of February.
 

akaukswoosh

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Jan 14, 2006
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.

Go back to your #Hoosierdaddy board.

 
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wildcatdon

Heisman
Oct 17, 2012
10,492
13,384
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You usually go as your point guard goes. We have 1 point guard who can’t keep his head in the game but about 1 out of every 3 games. Commits way too many turnovers, many that are momentum killers. How many times does Hagans drive with nowhere to go, then leave his feet and pass to the other team or out of bounds? At least 2-3 times per game. Seems to be getting worse. But our illustrious coach has not recruited a good backup point guard so Hagans gets to stay in the game. Why is there no backup? Oh that’s right, Cal has to leave some schollies open for the next great freshman coming in next year so he can get them to the NBA. Lather, rinse, repeat. The lack of depth and piss poor play is on Cal. We need to be two deep at every position. He refuses to adjust recruiting or style of play. This team has no shot at a title. Hell we can’t even win the SEC regular season title anymore. Done
 
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calismyhero

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Jan 16, 2010
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Sitting around this season waiting for EJ Montgomery to do anything is a complete waste of time. He’s horrible, I’m not even sure he’s a D1 level player. Tallest guy on the floor, he’s lazy on defense, won’t rebound, we say we have 8 guys? We have 3 1/2 guys and 4 1/2 bodies. No consistency except poor defense, lazy fouls and a lack of rebounding. We do have some great wins, but we also have some terrible losses. Yesterday’s game and losing was not unexpected. The way we lost however I thought we had gotten past that. Refs are no help but when you hand check a guy right in front of the ref or you go over the back, reach out instead of moving your feet, you invite the foul calls. Go look at the film again. We could have been called for another 10 fouls. Not a terrible team but I’ve seen a lot better this year. We need a complete roster of players.
 

UK90

Heisman
Dec 30, 2007
31,460
27,816
0
But the good thing is nobody else is very good either.

THIS. It's a very strange season for college basketball, as nearly everybody seems to be similarly flawed.

In past seasons I'd have thought this year's UK team doesn't have much chance. But THIS year? That's a different story.
 
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JC CATS

Heisman
Jun 18, 2009
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12,221
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Long time lurker. But all I keep reading are complaints. I gotta say something.

This is NOT a good basketball team. I'm being brutally honest here. We can cry all we want about the officials, and yes they are terrible.

But this team has losses to Evansville @Rupp. Utah, Ohio St and South Carolina! Auburn is probably our only so called good loss. This team can't build a lead and hold a lead to save their lives.

We have three talented guards. And Richards. That's literally it. Damn the officiating. This team isn't special. There is no P.J or Herro. It's just an above average team.
PJ and Hero got beat in Elite 8 damn couldn't you have used Davis and MKG?