Zero P4 QBs in the current room.

[Colonel HR]

Lonergan is a P4 QB and the game would have been competitive if he didn't get hurt.

 

[Rutgers25]

The mistake, clearly (coaching), was thinking AJ was anywhere near ready to compete for QB1. We went out and purchased an insurance policy in Lonergan whose floor was at least having been a starter on another bad team. He was intentionally not planned as a high upside guy because it was framed to be a QB competition. But look - there’s no way it was ever close. It was on Greg and staff to recognize that AJ needed to be recruited over this summer to the full extent.

spot on

mind boggling if they really believed that AJ was a potential answer at QB.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Lonergan is barely serviceable, and would be at best a backup anywhere else

He was serviceable at BC. He became barely serviceable/virtually unplayable at RU.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Again, we have no P4 QB who is accurate. All throws were behind him or over the goal post.

And some went to the other team.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

What Idiot posted that ?

That would be the Velvet Sausage aka Mr. Slice of Heaven.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

They aren't going here

Money doesn't talk that loud.

 

[Knight Shift]

And some went to the other team.

The equivalent of William Tell getting a head shot on his kid with the arrow, instead of hitting the apple.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

He was serviceable at BC. He became barely serviceable/virtually unplayable at RU.

No - he’s not. He’s nothing special and hardly a clear high major QB1 target anywhere but he’s exactly what we aimed for. A very similar target to what AK was at Minny except AK panned out better. In AK’s case - the decision made way more sense. Kirk had the prior relationship, and he wasn’t a surefire starter to boot GW - he had to earn it in pre-season. I didn’t agree with how GW was handled, but we had in that case convinced the kid to give up his senior year of HS so there I could sort of understand the effort to make sure he was given every possibility to step up. The same thing was seemingly done for Surace and in this case it was a big mistake. I can’t see how Greg didn’t realize AJ was nowhere near ready to win QB1. We didn’t just need a QB, we arguably needed to buy a back up too.

 

[MADHAT1]

This might sound crazy, but with a passing attack that makes for a frown more than smile, it might be the best way for RU to be competitive
What Rutgers needs to do is to give up its passing game and stay mainly a running team passing around 10 times a game. ( 8 to Duff, Black targeted twice )

Use the updated Wishbone called the Flexbone triple option.
Give Raymond and Thevenin the bulk of the plays and put an extra TE in as blocking back, along with rotating Aiden Gibson in backfield with them and when Benjamin gets healthy again, add him to the backfield mix..
As for QB Lonergan when it's 3rd and 10 or more , any other time make the TFEX a wildcat (Jabu Package) or AJ operating as an option QB, rarely passing, pitching the ball to the RBs . I believe he was a pretty good runner in HS , so he might work out fine playing an option offense
Rutgers has some good recovers, but without QBs that can be trusted to get the ball to them, an offence designed for running most of the game is needed.

I remember Texas’ Wishbone with Jamie Street at QB , very little passing but the Langhorne’s running game blew the opponent away

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

This might sound crazy, but with a passing attack that makes for a frown more than smile, it might be the best way for RU to be competitive
What Rutgers needs to do is to give up its passing game and stay mainly a running team passing around 10 times a game. ( 8 to Duff, Black targeted twice )

Use the updated Wishbone called the Flexbone triple option.
Give Raymond and Thevenin the bulk of the plays and put an extra TE in as blocking back, along with rotating Aiden Gibson in backfield with them and when Benjamin gets healthy again, add him to the backfield mix..
As for QB Lonergan when it's 3rd and 10 or more , any other time make the TFEX a wildcat (Jabu Package) or AJ operating as an option QB, rarely passing, pitching the ball to the RBs . I believe he was a pretty good runner in HS , so he might work out fine playing an option offense
Rutgers has some good recovers, but without QBs that can be trusted to get the ball to them, an offence designed for running most of the game is needed.

I remember Texas’ Wishbone with Jamie Street at QB , very little passing but the Langhorne’s running game blew the opponent away

Who would coach this?

 

[SeaGlass]

Probably the biggest indictment of the staff. It’s unbelievable the couldn’t get someone to get KJ the ball on the regular.

Dylan shows signs but is very indecisive.

I'm pretty sure Stearn is from PA, Ambler PA specifically!

 

[MADHAT1]

Who would coach this?

Tim Polasek North Dakota State's HC runs a power spread offense that utilizes some option elements .
NDSU often uses:

• Two tight ends
• Fullbacks and H-backs
• Heavy run-first philosophy
• Quarterback runs and option concepts

He might be able to run a flex/wishbone if he had to use what's available now at QB next year if he can't bring in a QB that can be considered a good one through the portal.

All 3 of the Service Academies HCs would fit the bill

My suggestion was made because Rutgers QB situation is usually lousy with few years having a passing game that can be counted on to make a difference
Developing QBs doesn't seem to be an RU strength .
AK was developed as a Gopher then helped Rutgers have a passing game after he came to Rutgers .

 

[rutgersguy2]

Tim Polasek North Dakota State's HC runs a power spread offense that utilizes some option elements .
NDSU often uses:

• Two tight ends
• Fullbacks and H-backs
• Heavy run-first philosophy
• Quarterback runs and option concepts

He might be able to run a flex/wishbone if he had to use what's available now at QB next year if he can't bring in a QB that can be considered a good one through the portal.

All 3 of the Service Academies HCs would fit the bill

My suggestion was made because Rutgers QB situation is usually lousy with few years having a passing game that can be counted on to make a difference
Developing QBs doesn't seem to be an RU strength .
AK was developed as a Gopher then helped Rutgers have a passing game after he came to Rutgers .

Jeff Monken would be my choice for that kind of route and trust him to figure out how to adapt his offense to the P4.

Also I’d say qbs haven’t really developed here for the most part is more to do with head coaches or OCs in the last 26 years than anything else. Hire coaches or OCs with a history of developing qbs consistently and you’ll probably see a better track record.

 

[mdk02]

Jeff Monken would be my choice for that kind of route and trust him to figure out how to adapt his offense to the P4.

Also I’d say qbs haven’t really developed here for the most part is more to do with head coaches or OCs in the last 26 years than anything else. Hire coaches or OCs with a history of developing qbs consistently and you’ll probably see a better track record.

Monken and Army is a perfect fit. No way.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Monken and Army is a perfect fit. No way.

May be but he’s tried for lower to mid rung jobs in the past like Purdue, Kansas, GT to name a few. He came up short.

 

[MADHAT1]

Monken and Army is a perfect fit. No way.

Calhoun has been the HC at Air Force since 2007 and played for the Falcons as an AF Cadet , he's a lifer there
So another one I was looking at bites the RU HC dust .

Navy's Newberry is about the only one that has tun the flexbone exclusively that might leave the Service Academy he's at and I don't think he'd think about leaving Navy for Rutgers

 

[rutgersguy2]

Calhoun has been the HC at Air Force since 2007 and played for the Falcons as an AF Cadet , he's a lifer there
So another one I was looking at bites the RU HC dust .

Navy's Newberry is about the only one that has tun the flexbone exclusively that might leave the Service Academy he's at and I don't think he'd think about leaving Navy for Rutgers

Calhoun was brought up in a pod I just listened to and was compared to sort of like Doeren. Both tried to leave and get other jobs but fell short and ended up staying longer than they may have wanted. Calhoun is resigned to the fact he’s pretty much there for the duration one way or the other.