I tell friends all the time ever since they let Vegas put point spread on college sports the officiating has gotten worse. Only a few bad calls can swing the point difference, don't have to swing the winner. I'm not talking only about UK games, watch all across the board. Can't convince me a lot of these refs aren't on the take or betting on the games.
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Did they ever explain the call late where I know Nick got his 4th but OSU didn't shoot FT's??? I could only think later that they called double foul. Don't remember which way arrow was at the time.
I didn't know if people would say I had my blue-tinted glasses on, but I felt like the refs kept us at an arms-length every time we made a run. Sure I'm a diehard UK fan, but dam. Sestina goes up to make it a 1 point game and gets body checked and stuffed by the bottom of the rim and no call. But he taps a guy who had already lost the ball and they call a shooting foul with less than 1 second left on the shot clock? The guy in the backcourt at the end clearly walks and nothing. Every time we got within 1-3 points there was a whistle. They shot double the amount oof FTs we did. 3 times I saw a guy slide or drag his foot and nothing. Our guys would go inside and get hammered and nothing, but their bigs would get tapped and whistle. I thought it was one of the worse called games since UNCheat in the E8. Besides a few stupid shots, I thought we were up to the challenge and playing pretty well.
I would watch and we would make so many plays, it would feel like we were making 3 to 1 plays over them and I would look up and we would be down 4. Maybe it's me, if so ok. But I felt like the refs made about an 8 point difference. Not to mention the ball that bounces off the OHS player's head and no review OHS ball. I really felt like we would have gotten out to a 4-5 point lead, but every time we got close there was a call and a lot were bad. Just call it the same both ways. Don't let our guys get knocked around with the body and no call and then tap and a call. I thought we played well enough to win and I really feel like the refs were not going to let it happen.
I would watch and we would make so many plays, it would feel like we were making 3 to 1 plays over them and I would look up and we would be down 4. Maybe it's me, if so ok. But I felt like the refs made about an 8 point difference. Not to mention the ball that bounces off the OHS player's head and no review OHS ball. I really felt like we would have gotten out to a 4-5 point lead, but every time we got close there was a call and a lot were bad. Just call it the same both ways. Don't let our guys get knocked around with the body and no call and then tap and a call. I thought we played well enough to win and I really feel like the refs were not going to let it happen.
I do not think we were getting screwed by the refs. That said the game was very inconsistently called. This is rough on a young team.
What about where Sestina gets body checked and then gets stuffed by the rim. He makes that and 1 and it's tied. Even if they make the call he could go to the line and make it a one-point game. I usually don't like bringing the refs into losses, but this honestly seemed like the fix was in.
We were knocking on the door the entire game, but it's hard to get over the hump when they call touch fouls on us and let them mug us. They walked, bounced balls off their heads, body checked Sestina out of bounds. I mean you can't beat a top 5 team on a neutral court when every time you get it to 2 or 3 a bad call comes. It was like the ref's were trying to keep us at an arm's length the whole game. I feel like we outplayed them and every time I looked up we were down 2 or 3.
The exact same 3 I remember. These weren't judgement calls. Completely wrong calls that were invalidated by the replay.
And yeah I agree with the "stop blaming the refs" crowd. Because it weakens the argument to do it every game. This was different. 3 obvious bad calls in a 6 pt game
I don't see how any UK fan couldn't see that ref job as a total hose job. Our guys played good enough to win, but couldn't get over the hump with the refs.
We shot 15 more shots then them going 25 of 49 for 42.4%. They shot 22 of 44 for 50%. We shot 30.4% from 3 and they shot 31.6% even counting that BS shot towards the end that lucked in.
We turned them over 14 times and only turned it over 11 times. We out assisted them 17 to 15.
They shot more than double the amount of FTs we did going 21 of 27 while we went 8 of 13. They did beat us on the glass by 8.
I honestly feel like we played hard and should have won that game. If you just go to the monitor on the bounce of the guys head out of bounds call. Then call the walk in the backcourt that was 4-5 steps. Call one of the 3 walks where they dragged or slide their feet. Call the foul where Sestina gets nailed with the body and ends up getting stuffed by the rim because he is body checked over the rim. Just call a handful of the calls out of the ton of horrible calls and we win this thing by at least 5. They kept us at arm's length every time we made a run and looked like we were going to gain the lead. It's like the refs weren't going to let us get the lead. Often it would take the ball from us and lead to 2-3 points for them.
With an even whistle and not so many blown calls we win this game walking away. This isn't blue-tinted glasses this is facts.
I think it makes those who blame losses on the refs feel better. So, let them wallow in it.
Then what is the answer? You can't play the game without refs. I guess you could call your own fouls? We know how that works out from games on the playgrounds as a teenager? It ends up with punches being thrown! When Kentucky plays a perfect game then I will expect the refs to call a perfect game. I'm still waiting?
I mean there were so many bad calls, but the backbreaker was after answering and knocking on the door all day we decide to play defense instead of fouling and they throw it into the backcourt and walk 4-5 steps a complete joke where even the announcer was like OMG and they sink a 3 with 2 on the shot clock. That was the dagger of bad calls. If they call that correctly we have the ball down 3 with about a minute or so I think. We could have cut it to 1 or even tied the game.
I mean the fans that don't want to admit the ball bouncing off the guys head and the BS calls all game fine, but everyone on here should admit that was a backbreaker when we were right there. That's why I'm not giving up. That got stolen from us call after call, but especially in a very clear call at the end where we could have tied it up. This team isn't good enough to handle that many bad calls even though they did all day until that last walk turned into a 3 for them and it was too late in the game to come back from that. How about a monitor review LOL. (I know they couldn't on that, but it's just been that kind of week for UK BB).
I mean the fans that don't want to admit the ball bouncing off the guys head and the BS calls all game fine, but everyone on here should admit that was a backbreaker when we were right there. That's why I'm not giving up. That got stolen from us call after call, but especially in a very clear call at the end where we could have tied it up. This team isn't good enough to handle that many bad calls even though they did all day until that last walk turned into a 3 for them and it was too late in the game to come back from that. How about a monitor review LOL. (I know they couldn't on that, but it's just been that kind of week for UK BB).
Exhibit A.
OSU player in the forbidden zone while drawing a charge. No review. Buckeyes ball.
Exhibit B.
The above block by Brooks, clearly goes off Buckeye out of bounds. Ball awarded to OSU.
Exhibit C.
Quickly bodied on lay up attempt, no call, misses shot and Buckeyes rebound.
We lost by 6, there are the six points right there.
Exhibit D.
OSU walks chasing down ball in backcourt late in game, no call.
OSU player in the forbidden zone while drawing a charge. No review. Buckeyes ball.
Exhibit B.
The above block by Brooks, clearly goes off Buckeye out of bounds. Ball awarded to OSU.
Exhibit C.
Quickly bodied on lay up attempt, no call, misses shot and Buckeyes rebound.
We lost by 6, there are the six points right there.
Exhibit D.
OSU walks chasing down ball in backcourt late in game, no call.
You can't being this up, don't you know it is all Cal's fault?
It is a joke. For OSU to be in the bonus 4 or 5 minutes into the game is absurd. It's a sideshow.
All the people crying and saying the refs didn't cost us the game answer one question honestly. Forget the ticky-tack fouls on us and all the BS calls the entire game the ball bouncing off the guys head and ends up their ball. Down 3 we decide not to foul and to play D and we force the TO with the clear walk. 4-5 steps, worse than an NBA walk and they hit a 3 with 2 on the shot clock after we had answered all day. They make the correct call there that can't be argued. Even the old man calling it said OMG. We have the ball under a minute down 3 with a chance to cut it to 1 or tie the game with very little time left. Honestly, that didn't break our backs with the bad no call? We weren't right there with a chance even though only 3 guys really showed up with one of the top 5 teams in the country out west on a neutral court? If that isn't robbery I don't know what is. We didn't foul and forced the TO and didn't get it, but instead got a 3 from them with 2 on the shot clock. That would kill any team that late.
If so you're right. We will never be that good to overcome that when we pull off what we were going for that late in the game and it goes the opposite way due to the worse no call I have seen this year. Anyone that thinks that wasn't a walk go get your eyes checked Monday before you kill someone behind the wheel.
Shows was the best official on the court today.
Verne Harris killed us as he always does.
Shows was the best official on the court today.
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I just wish the NCAA or conferences would do something to make it or help it more be consistent because sometimes the criteria for a foul literally changes from one end of the floor to the other. How is that fair? How can any team adjust when it's so wildly inconsistent?
All the calls went Ohio St direction...which boils me as a UK fan but there it is. On a big picture I agree the game shouldn't be called with all the charge calls but if the refs year in and year out are going to look for those guys sliding underneath guys for a charge...then maybe we should play that way.
Our weak side help guys hardly ever go for a charge but the whole game Ohio St we get to a spot to draw a charge and fall backwards to get the call. This is how most teams play defense and maybe we should try to play this way to help ourselves out.
Our weak side help guys hardly ever go for a charge but the whole game Ohio St we get to a spot to draw a charge and fall backwards to get the call. This is how most teams play defense and maybe we should try to play this way to help ourselves out.
I just think it's funny the ncaa and Emmert are concerned with the public perception of the ncaa(saw this quote on the ESPN scroll) but when it comes to fixing the basic things they refuse. Don't worry they would screw up pouring water. The third party oversight would help tremendously.
It's not just the effect of possession and scoring on the officiating, it is how effects the players. When you have half your team with 2 fouls before half and the opponent has 1 or 2, it affects how your guys play the game.
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Not sure who Scott Charlton is saying clean block and ball off of OSU, but how does he clearly miss the left forearm push in the middle of the back?
so I agree there are some bad calls but every game we say the refs cost us the game. WHY ? why would different refs call our game and every one of them get together and say lets not let KY win. What do they hate Cal-the fans something for even refs we never had call bad fouls on us and not the other team. I mean there are two teams playing and if the refs are bad then why do they call all the bad fouls on us. All I can say they sure hate Cal and BBN
There goes the game. I wouldn't mind seeing someone beat the **** out of these refs.
Kentucky is getting destroyed by these refs. Hope Cal gets kicked out for chewing their corrupt asses out.
Refs have ruined all sports. It's unreal how big of a part of the game they are. I absolutely hate hearing that whistle blow. I hate it both ways too. And don't get me started on the charge calls either.