Any of you cowards that give me a thumbs down just state the flaw in my argument. Downvote away if you want but I feel pretty strongly it's air tight.
Zach Arnett new DC
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We haven't had a problem attracting good assistants. It's been keeping them. I don't have a problem with continuing to hire the types of assistants we've been hiring, provided we open up the checkbook to get them to at least top quartile of the SEC for their position once they prove they are worth it. We obviously aren't going to have a coaching budget that is top quartile in the SEC, but if we pay for the ones that prove they are worth it, particularly at the defenensive coordinator position, we can keep our staff competitive overall.
Arnett played that defense in college under Long, coached under him since 2011 and has been DC for past 2 years, but, yeah, he never learned anything about that defense. Need we remind them that when Hugh Sleeze made his first appearance on their campus he was only 2 years removed from being a girls high school basketball coach?
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It’s worked really well for years at SDSU when they played Pac12 teams with a talent advantage. It’s really not much different than the 3-4 defense that most teams run now- just using an undersized LB to get more speed on the field.
Every team on our schedule runs a variation of the spread offense. Obviously we need to still be good up front and go get some more speed on defense, but this is a good hire.
To be fair, SDSU held New Mexico State to 10 pts, same as Alabama.
They held UCLA to the same or fewer points (14) than Oklahoma, Washington State, Arizona, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona State, Colorado, USC, and California.
They held BYU to fewer points (3) than Utah, Tennessee, USC, Washington, and Boise State
It's not like there aren't comparisons to be made.
Something to think about with the 3-3-5 and our new offense
putting less of the d-line and lbs on the field at one time means that we will have more guys to switch in and out. I think that this will help the defense stay strong in the 4th quarter with all the extra plays that they may be playing with the new offense going faster and the defense may have to be back on the field quicker too.
putting less of the d-line and lbs on the field at one time means that we will have more guys to switch in and out. I think that this will help the defense stay strong in the 4th quarter with all the extra plays that they may be playing with the new offense going faster and the defense may have to be back on the field quicker too.
Sarcasm aside..... you've got to shift your frame of reference.
Everyone knows that the SEC is elite teams with elite talent. You are judged in the SEC by how compare to your peers. In the MWC, Arnett and SDSU's defense was considered "elite" in comparison to their peers. The were also considered "elite" stats-wise in the entire country. The theory is that his scheme and coaching, "shifted" to an SEC frame of reference, would yield similar results with our improved talent against our peers.
Couldn't you have said the same about Moorhead & Joe Brady though? It doesn't bother me he's the disciple and not the master.
Doesnt actually sound like you want to discuss it. Sounds more like you want to lead with "bonehead" and be bent about getting a downvote.
Theres someone else on the board that's been begging to fight people all day, maybe you two can meet up in a thread and get your rocks off.
Hey...I hope it works out great and we win every game. Joe Lee had an awesome 335 defense. Maybe the success will translate to the SEC west for Arnett. We will see
I will at least say this, in both our HC and DC search, our Plan B’s (Leach and Arnett) are actually more proven than the guys we expected to hire (Judge and Newberry).
Just goes to show that we as fans shouldn’t automatically flip out if our first choice doesn’t come through. See also Chris Lemonis.
Just goes to show that we as fans shouldn’t automatically flip out if our first choice doesn’t come through. See also Chris Lemonis.
This isn’t the 1980s or early 90s. You need speed and agility on the field to cover these pass happy teams. clemson and Auburn ran a 3-1-7 defense against LSU.
I think that the fallacy is in thinking that the only people who can coach are already in, or have been in the SEC. If he had coached against LSU and Alabama at his previous stops it mostly would have told us that he was severely out-manned, not that he couldn't coach.
The idea that our D will be on the field longer by default because of Leach's offense has already been proven to be false though. Pretty in depth stats were posted not too long ago showing that Leach's defense over the past 5 years played almost an identical amount of plays as our defenses with Mullen and Moorhead. I'm not saying that is going to be the exact case with Leach at State, but he doesn't run a "hurry up" offense. Go watch some of his games at TX Tech and WSU and you'll see that they're often running the play clock way down before snapping.
I wonder if we will use whatever is leftover from the 4.7 mil budget (Assuming there’s is any) and hire more off field staff.
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Long or Arnett, but wants this hire to be a bust, I can confirm that Arnett just rode Long’s coattails and his greatest contribution was he knew exactly how Rocky Long (I think that’s his first name?) liked his coffee. Sorry to break this awful news to you all.
Id be ok with 4-2-5. And if we have the up front linemen im ok with a 3-3-5. But of youre not elite on the line you're stopping the run with "speed" guys that are likely to be smaller and have a higher propensity to injury. So you better build quality depth in this system.....or score 47 a game
Ole Miss had the best defense in the country because they recruited (*cheated* went ahead and fixed it for all of you, you’re welcome) to a 4-2-5. The 3-3-5 is just a hybrid version of the 4-2-5. The concepts are the same. It’s not typically a seamless transition for teams, but once you are able to recruit to it, it can be a dominant defense. Of course, having great players helps. But, to me, the biggest key to it, besides great DL play, which matters no matter what kind of scheme you run.. is getting a couple of those hybrid type players who can cover a WR in the slot but also take on a TE or pulling G in the run game. Those players aren’t easy to find, but I feel like Mississippi produces a few of them. Someone in the Ashley Cooper / Tony Conner type role. Ole Miss’s defense was never the same after Conner’s injury.
In today’s game, I think recruiting to a base nickel defense is smart. Yes, you’ll still need the big uglies that can win 1 on 1’s and slow down rushing attacks, but again, there’s no defense that will eliminate that need. I’d much rather have a hybrid safety trying to fit a run gap, than a true LB trying to chase a slot WR who is quick as hell and is the only one who knows which direction he’s cutting.
In today’s game, I think recruiting to a base nickel defense is smart. Yes, you’ll still need the big uglies that can win 1 on 1’s and slow down rushing attacks, but again, there’s no defense that will eliminate that need. I’d much rather have a hybrid safety trying to fit a run gap, than a true LB trying to chase a slot WR who is quick as hell and is the only one who knows which direction he’s cutting.
Not being funny, but I think Fabian Lovett is like 315 or 320. He’s a nose.
Pickering and Carmody at tackle and end. Nice.
Pickering and Carmody at tackle and end. Nice.
He's never called the defense for SDSU or devised a game plan that was all Rocky. Just FYI.
Whoever said that Leach doesn’t care about defense has just been proven wrong. Bold hire.
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Zach Arnet was DC in title ONLY. He admits so himself. Hope it works out. https://thedailyaztec.com/90011/sports/zach-arnett-promoted-to-defensive-coordinator-for-aztecs/
A lot of coaches are great until they get in the SEC west. A lot of scheme work in the big 12 or pac 12 and fail against better competition. There is a long list of great coaches that failed in the SEC. There is no such thing as cant miss hires