Yes, spying did occur

moe

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No, it will not be in his report. He did not investigate the investigators, only Trump. Mueller also withheld most important results for over 9 months, ensuring a cloud over Trump during the midterms.
lol love that. Trump stonewalled Mueller for well over a year regarding an interview/answering questions and still wouldn't sit for an interview with Mueller. Trump drug this investigation out longer than anybody.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Uh-huh, nothing different than what I said. Spying occurred, whether it was improper or not is still up in the air.
You are saying he (Barr) lied to Congress today. Agreed. That's what I've been pointing out. It's quite the statement.
 

WVUCOOPER

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No, the dossier was presented to continue the investigation. If you believe there's been nothing dishonest, then the investigation should have gone forward. If you believe the dossier wasn't a falsified document, then you would be right. I, on the other hand, believe everything assoc with the dossier was a fabrication to try and bring down a duly elected President.
lol. The WITCHES are all gonna burn soon!
 

Airport

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lol. The WITCHES are all gonna burn soon!
no, it was an honest question whether you believed what transpired was legit. You do, I don't. If an investigation is opened, it should get to the truth. One way or the other.
 

JWG66

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It's already been revealed. The FBI was so worried about Trump being "duped" by Russian infiltrators, they actually forgot to tell him! o_O

More like they were afraid that if they told him they wouldn’t be able to catch him. Or they distrusted him so much they failed to tell him. Personally, I’d go with option #1..
 

TarHeelEer

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DOD is a part of this?

The CIA payments came from DOD funds. Does that sound about right KKKwrong? Here's how they got around needing warrants prior to official investigation, Crossfire Hurricane. CIA assets lured Trump peeps overseas.

Addendum - When Clapper states that the FBI was not spying on Trump admin, he's not lying.

 

moe

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The CIA payments came from DOD funds. Does that sound about right KKKwrong? Here's how they got around needing warrants prior to official investigation, Crossfire Hurricane. CIA assets lured Trump peeps overseas.

entrapment! coup!
 

WVU82_rivals

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#GITMOtour2019!

 
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atlkvb

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The board libs sound awful nervous in this thread. LOL!

No they don't. They sound like they're still in denial and believing only Trump "colluded". Not one of them is willing to admit the DOJ was weaponized against a sitting duly elected U.S. President.

They do not care about any collusion on their side, or obstruction on their side, or illegality on their side...only Trump.
 

WVU82_rivals

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and it ALL comes back to Zero...

'cause there's NO WAY Trump wins...

Hilliary was going to use this info to "break" Trump after she won...

 

atlkvb

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and it ALL comes back to Zero...

ALL of it...

'cause there's NO WAY Trump wins...

Hilliary was going to use this info to "break" Trump after she won...


they're all still in "denial" she lost. Hence "Russians" and "popular vote" theories. Oh don't forget their calls to get rid of the electoral college which was unfairly rigged in Trump's favor!
 

Gunny46

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So there was this old bull and a young bull sitting on a hill. :wink:
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Mueller didn't leak. You are now calling him withholding as something bad? Lol

Mueller took over the entire FBI file and appears to have been very thorough from various congressional testimony of the DOJ. Don't be foolish; the 16 angry Democrats has looked into some of this already. But again, until all is known, people like you will spin just like you did in the OP.
Curious, the FISA surveillance ended shortly after Mueller began.
 

WVUBRU

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Curious, the FISA surveillance ended shortly after Mueller began.
I don't know much about the fisa crap yet. But isn't it common sense when the government makes it public that a special counsel is going to investigate the Russian connection, there is no need for a counter intelligence "spy" investigation?
 

wvu2007

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I don't know much about the fisa crap yet. But isn't it common sense when the government makes it public that a special counsel is going to investigate the Russian connection, there is no need for a counter intelligence "spy" investigation?

Clear from your post that you don't know much about anything.
 

Gunny46

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I don't know much about the fisa crap yet. But isn't it common sense when the government makes it public that a special counsel is going to investigate the Russian connection, there is no need for a counter intelligence "spy" investigation?
This link has nothing to do with Trump. You may find it informative. You can Google the Brennan Center it is a liberal source. Was written before Trump became President.
https://www.brennancenter.org/publication/what-went-wrong-fisa-court
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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lol love that. Trump stonewalled Mueller for well over a year regarding an interview/answering questions and still wouldn't sit for an interview with Mueller. Trump drug this investigation out longer than anybody.
Ummmmm, Trump provided well over a million documents and access to every person Mueller wanted. Mueller didn’t have enough of a case to warrant a discussion with Trump, in person or otherwise.
 

atlkvb

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Ummmmm, Trump provided well over a million documents and access to every person Mueller wanted. Mueller didn’t have enough of a case to warrant a discussion with Trump, in person or otherwise.

Perjury trap, since there was no other crime Mueller could get Trump on. Ironically a SC normally isn't even authorized unless there is sufficient evidence of criminal activity or suspicion of an actual crime. Mueller never specified what crime of Trump's he was looking for? He was essentially a prosecutor in search of a crime.

Still never found one.
 

atlkvb

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It’s hilarious this is never seen by any of them because you’re on ignore.

It's one of the main reasons so many of them remain ignorant about what actually happened in this "collusion delusion". They don't read @WVU82 's posts. [winking]
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I don't know much about the fisa crap yet. But isn't it common sense when the government makes it public that a special counsel is going to investigate the Russian connection, there is no need for a counter intelligence "spy" investigation?
Keep going....

They found absolutely nothing as summarized by Mueller’s report. You’d think someone under FISA would lead to an indictment. Nope. Nada. I’m sure it’s totally normal the DOJ is actually looking into improper spying...errrr “unauthorized surveillance”.