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Pospecteer

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Look at you attempting to justify taking someone's medications from them. Not surprised at all...not to mention you have no f'ucking clue what you're talking about regarding medications. Blood pressure medication can make a difference in as little as 24-36 hours. Idiot.

Can make a difference, and putting someone at risk is miles apart. I will take my 30 years in pharma/healhcare against whatever knowledge you have on the subject. Anyone who calls ICE employees NAZI's for separating a person who is illegally entering the country and unmarked pills found in their possession kind of makes me question your judgement about things you disagree with
 

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Can make a difference, and putting someone at risk is miles apart. I will take my 30 years in pharma/healhcare against whatever knowledge you have on the subject. Anyone who calls ICE employees NAZI's for separating a person who is illegally entering the country and unmarked pills found in their possession kind of makes me question your judgement about things you disagree with
That is for those being arrested. Illegal crossing the border, people are detained but not arrested. Difference. But regardless, I'm in favor of the same policies of temporarily taking the medications away from those crossing the border but kept in close-by vicinity as the individual is being processed. Only makes sense. Problem is we don't have enough personnel and facilities to process along with a very flawed process this Administration has put forward which has made the problem worse.

And, dave is dead wrong in everything he has said in this thread about asylum. No surprised there. But keep doubling down on stupidity. That is what you people do.

In all honestly, what is the difference between someone being detained for illegally crossing the border and being arrested for trespassing? In both instances, the officers handle the detainment exactly the same.

Headline from the NYT's. Their might be a difference but in reality, it does not change the fact that when drugs are found on someone and they are being held, their drugs will be taken away 99 % of the time

Immigration Arrests and Deportations Are Rising, I.C.E. Data Show


By Ron Nixon

  • Dec. 14, 2018
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration significantly stepped up its arrests and deportations of undocumented immigrants last year, according to government data release
 
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Can make a difference, and putting someone at risk is miles apart. I will take my 30 years in pharma/healhcare against whatever knowledge you have on the subject. Anyone who calls ICE employees NAZI's for separating a person who is illegally entering the country and unmarked pills found in their possession kind of makes me question your judgement about things you disagree with

It is legal to seek asylum and you can do it at places other than ports of entry, idiot. CBP is taking medications from people even if they are properly marked, idiot. They are also separating mothers from their children, and yes, children have died. Yes, they are Nazis and you support this ruthless, inhumane ********.
 

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It is legal to seek asylum and you can do it at places other than ports of entry, idiot. CBP is taking medications from people even if they are properly marked, idiot. They are also separating mothers from their children, and yes, children have died. Yes, they are Nazis and you support this ruthless, inhumane ********.

I don't argue with people who are low IQ, anyone who uses the term idiot in every other sentence is just a waste of my time. Good luck convincing Floyd at the barber shop that you are correct.
 

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In all honestly, what is the difference between someone being detained for illegally crossing the border and being arrested for trespassing? In both instances, the officers handle the detainment exactly the same.
Come on. If you don't know the legal difference between being arrested for a crime and being detained in something like crossing the border illegally, educate yourself on some basics of the legal system before spouting off.

But yes when in custody by law enforcement, certain actions need to be taken to ensure the safety and responsible behavior by all involved. Those include making sure the individual is not armed, they are controlled, they don't have anything that could harm themselves (medications can and have been taken in attempts to commit suicide or get sent to the hospital where it is easier to escape) and several others.
 
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I don't argue with people who are low IQ

Headline from the NYT's. Their might be a difference but in reality, it does not change the fact that when drugs are found on someone and they are being held, their drugs will be taken away 99 % of the time

Before you call someone low IQ, you might want to learn the difference between using a plural form of a word and using a possessive form of a word and you might want to learn the difference between "their and "there."
 

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It is legal to seek asylum and you can do it at places other than ports of entry, idiot. CBP is taking medications from people even if they are properly marked, idiot. They are also separating mothers from their children, and yes, children have died. Yes, they are Nazis and you support this ruthless, inhumane ********.
You're a mean drunk ! Looking through this thread I can only wonder how many mixed drinks you had during this exchange ? When your hangover burns off read through it and ask yourself "can I do better" ?
 

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It is legal to seek asylum and you can do it at places other than ports of entry, idiot. CBP is taking medications from people even if they are properly marked, idiot. They are also separating mothers from their children, and yes, children have died. Yes, they are Nazis and you support this ruthless, inhumane ********.
Ignorance
 

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Before you call someone low IQ, you might want to learn the difference between using a plural form of a word and using a possessive form of a word and you might want to learn the difference between "their and "there."

You got me now. Typical low IQ response.
 

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And I will give another knox-story on the subject of medications while being held.

In 1983 in Sunnyside on a football Saturday, I was detained by Morgantown's finest and thrown into one of their paddy-wagons which they used to fill up like greyhound busses going to spring break back in the day. I wasn't arrested but I was detained and hand-cuffed. Another individual detained in the paddywagon, was very distraught and he took something out of his pants and swallowed it. He passed out and there was an emergency situation. The idiot cops back then actually released the 5 or 6 of us on the spot and let us go free while they took the paddywagon to the Med Center with the one guy that was passed out.

Unfortunately, I have been detained and arrested a few times in my younger life. Most of the time, I was checked for medicine/pills/illegal substances but sometimes I was not. I support law enforcement of all kinds getting medicine off of the subject while they are being held.
 

dave

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Before you call someone low IQ, you might want to learn the difference between using a plural form of a word and using a possessive form of a word and you might want to learn the difference between "their and "there."
He states in run on sentence.
 

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Look at you attempting to justify taking someone's medications from them. Not surprised at all...not to mention you have no f'ucking clue what you're talking about regarding medications. Blood pressure medication can make a difference in as little as 24-36 hours. Idiot.
Your fake outrage ovr this is comical.

What has Nancy Pelosi done to help this situation?
 

dave

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It is legal to seek asylum and you can do it at places other than ports of entry, idiot. CBP is taking medications from people even if they are properly marked, idiot. They are also separating mothers from their children, and yes, children have died. Yes, they are Nazis and you support this ruthless, inhumane ********.
How do you detain someone and let them keep their medications? Before their detainment are these people taking their medicine properly? They have to be detained if they dont have paperwork.
 

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And I will give another knox-story on the subject of medications while being held.

In 1983 in Sunnyside on a football Saturday, I was detained by Morgantown's finest and thrown into one of their paddy-wagons which they used to fill up like greyhound busses going to spring break back in the day. I wasn't arrested but I was detained and hand-cuffed. Another individual detained in the paddywagon, was very distraught and he took something out of his pants and swallowed it. He passed out and there was an emergency situation. The idiot cops back then actually released the 5 or 6 of us on the spot and let us go free while they took the paddywagon to the Med Center with the one guy that was passed out.

Unfortunately, I have been detained and arrested a few times in my younger life. Most of the time, I was checked for medicine/pills/illegal substances but sometimes I was not. I support law enforcement of all kinds getting medicine off of the subject while they are being held.

This happened a couple of months ago in the little town I live in. They never checked for drugs until they put in the holding cell where he tried to flush them and was shot in the process. Most think the cops made multiple mistakes which almost cost this criminal is life. The video is pretty disturbing.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/penns...-brian-riling-matthew-zimmerman-20190417.html


New Hope officer who shot man in holding cell was a career cop who made an 'unfortunate’ mistake, mayor says
by Vinny Vella, Updated: April 17, 2019




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“Matt represented and protected our community for a very long time,” he said. “This incident is very surprising; it’s human error. As a police officer, those circumstances can be unfortunate, and that’s what happened here.”

Zimmerman, 65, quietly left the department two days before Bucks County District Attorney Matthew Weintraub publicly announced that the officer had shot a prisoner on March 3 in the “honest but mistaken” belief that he had drawn his Taser rather than his gun.


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Weintraub declined to charge Zimmerman, ruling that the shooting was “neither justified nor criminal, but was excused.” The prosecutor noted that both the gun and Taser were holstered on the officer’s dominant side, his right, which he said was a violation of department policy.

New Hope does not have a policy barring officers from bringing firearms into holding cells, as some larger departments do. The 11-member force largely responds to quality-of-life and domestic issues in the small borough.

Zimmerman had been placed on administrative leave during the district attorney’s probe. He did not respond to a request for comment.

The mayor, in an interview Wednesday, said Zimmerman had received multiple commendations during his tenure. He said Zimmerman had never been suspended or formally disciplined during the 21 years Keller has served as mayor.


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He said he believed that Zimmerman, whose base salary was $96,383, was eligible to collect a pension, but said the amount had not been calculated by the state pension office as of Wednesday.

Zimmerman’s attorney, William Goldman, said Wednesday that the officer had always “comported himself professionally” and that the shooting came as Zimmerman was confronted by a “tall, strong individual who was threatening in his words and in his actions.”

Brian Riling, 38, of Pipersville, was in custody on intimidation charges when the shooting occurred. Authorities said he assaulted and stalked his ex-girlfriend, sending more than 100 text messages imploring her to recant a report to police that he had used a crowbar to force his way into her home.

While in a holding cell, police said, Riling dropped what appeared to be a plastic baggie that the officers assumed was drug paraphernalia. He stepped on the baggie in an effort to conceal it and a struggle with officers ensued.


In surveillance video released by Weintraub’s office, Zimmerman yells “Taser!” moments before firing his gun at Riling.

Warning: This video depicts a shooting in violent detail and contains profanity.


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Police involved shooting in a holding cell in the New Hope police department, March 3, 2019. Video was released by the Bucks County District Attorney's office.
Goldman said Zimmerman was trying to prevent Riling from hurting him or another officer. “Police officers are to be recognized for their sacrifices, and he had to make a split-second decision,” Goldman said.

After the shooting, Riling was taken to a nearby hospital, where he remained for several days in critical but stable condition, investigators said. He was discharged and released on bail, and faces a preliminary hearing in the case next month, court records show.


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Riling’s attorney, Richard F. Fink, declined to comment on the district attorney’s investigation. Riling did not respond to requests for comment.

Reported cases of law enforcement officers mistaking guns for Tasers are rare.


An Oklahoma sheriff’s deputy fatally shot a prisoner in 2016 in that manner, as did a Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer in California in 2009. Both officers were charged and convicted.

Locally, a similar incident took place in York County in November. An officer from the Southwestern Regional Police Department shot a man in the back of his police vehicle during an arrest. The district attorney later charged the officer, Stuart Lee Harrison, with simple assault after he admitted that he thought he had fired his Taser. Harrison’s case is scheduled for trial later this year.




Posted: April 17, 2019 - 12:11 PM
Vinny Vella | @Vellastrations | [email protected]
 

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Honest question. Are you seriously trying to compare the situation at the border to Nazi Germany from an intellectual stand point or is it just hyperbole? Like, do you seriously believe what you’re saying?
Isnt his entire existance a giant hyperbole?
 

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Unlike concentration camps, every member of the camp is free to walk out the door and walk back to Mexico and be free.
 

dave

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I think you are wrong here but I can't find a definitive link.
A port of entry or at the border. At a port of entry you are going to get better accomodations. You can claim it once you are picked up for illegally crossing the border. No matter how you shake it, you cannot cross the border without papers legally.
 

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Before you call someone low IQ, you might want to learn the difference between using a plural form of a word and using a possessive form of a word and you might want to learn the difference between "their and "there."
Thank you Mr. Zebra for the Engrish lesson....