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WVU82_rivals

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lol...

they're breaking the law...

put them in jail...


89 is this board's aoc...
 
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lol...

they're breaking the law...

put them in jail...

First off, they are not breaking the law. People have the right to seek asylum, idiot. I won’t even try to explain it to you idiot trump supporters because you blindly believe anything Fox tells you.

Secondly, in your world, prisoners don’t have the right to medicine? Even children?

F’uck you.
 

dave

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First off, they are not breaking the law. People have the right to seek asylum, idiot. I won’t even try to explain it to you idiot trump supporters because you blindly believe anything Fox tells you.

Secondly, in your world, prisoners don’t have the right to medicine? Even children?

F’uck you.
They have a right to seek asylum at a port of entry. They dont have a right to cross the border moron.
 
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dave

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It’s not limited to a port of entry, you God-damned f’ucking idiot. This is a perfect example of you trump dick suckers repeating nonsense ******** that Fox spews and trump gets you to believe. You are a perfect example of a ****ing, mindless moron.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states
You dont know what you are talking about as usual but it is funny watching cuss like a mad ***** because you want to act like you care.
 
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You dont know what you are talking about as usual but it is funny watching cuss like a mad ***** because you want to act like you care.

I posted a link that shows I am correct, as usual and you have nothing but mindless dribble, as usual. You can’t argue facts.

You were wrong again, as always.

You support a ruthless piece of **** president, separating children from their mothers and taking medicine from asylum seekers. You are no better than a Nazi.
 

dave

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I posted a link that shows I am correct, as usual and you have nothing but mindless dribble, as usual. You can’t argue facts.

You were wrong again, as always.

You support a ruthless piece of **** president, separating children from their mothers and taking medicine from asylum seekers. You are no better than a Nazi.
Your post doesnt back up your claim. It backs up what I said. It is illegal to cross the border without citizenship or papers. If you want asylum you seek it at a port of entry or near the border. If you care about your kids medicine you probably shouldnt try to cross the border in the middle of nowhere. There are facilities at the port of entry to get people the care they need.

Stay stupid.
 
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Your post doesnt back up your claim. It backs up what I said. It is illegal to cross the border without citizenship or papers. If you want asylum you seek it at a port of entry or near the border. If you care about your kids medicine you probably shouldnt try to cross the border in the middle of nowhere. There are facilities at the port of entry to get people the care they need.

Stay stupid.


You couldn’t be any bigger of a f’ucking idiot.


“Each year, thousands of noncitizens arriving at our border or already in the United States apply for asylum.”

Are you proud that you are a moron? It appears that way because you certainly don’t hesitate to prove it every single day.
 
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Your post doesnt back up your claim. It backs up what I said. It is illegal to cross the border without citizenship or papers. If you want asylum you seek it at a port of entry or near the border. If you care about your kids medicine you probably shouldnt try to cross the border in the middle of nowhere. There are facilities at the port of entry to get people the care they need.

Stay stupid.


What Is Asylum?
Asylum is a protection granted to foreign nationals already in the United States or at the border who meet the international law definition of a “refugee.”


F’ucking idiot.
 

dave

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You couldn’t be any bigger of a f’ucking idiot.


“Each year, thousands of noncitizens arriving at our border or already in the United States apply for asylum.”

Are you proud that you are a moron? It appears that way because you certainly don’t hesitate to prove it every single day.
People here legally inside our borders seek asylum to avoid being forced to leave? Go figure.

It is illegal to cross the boder without papers. Seekiing asylum doesnt make you legal. It starts a process where your request is reviewed and if you are denied you are deported.

Being ignorant is a choice.
 

dave

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What Is Asylum?
Asylum is a protection granted to foreign nationals already in the United States or at the border who meet the international law definition of a “refugee.”


F’ucking idiot.
Please point out where that says it makes you legal?

Read YOUR link. It explains the asylum process.
 

dave

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Yes, that is exactly how the process works.

See post 12, f’ucking moron.
That is not referring to illegal border crossers. You dont know what you are talking about. You can be in the country legally and not be a citizen and when your visa runs out you can seek asylum to stay if you fit the description of a refugee.
 

dave

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Kkkuntry reminds me of Michael Scott standing on a desk yelling "I declare bankruptcy" thinking that would make his financial issues go away. Requesting asylum does not make you a legal immigrant. A work visa does. A green card does.
 
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Kkkuntry reminds me of Michael Scott standing on a desk yelling "I declare bankruptcy" thinking that would make his financial issues go away. Requesting asylum does not make you a legal immigrant. A work visa does. A green card does.

Hey moron, this one will blow your tiny little fragile mind. Asylum seekers can cross the border, at any location, be in the country for up to a year, and then seek asylum. Asylum seekers certainly are in the process of becoming a legal immigrant. They are not a legal immigrant until their asylum is granted.

So much stupid with you. Keep talking and displaying your idiocy.
 

wvu2007

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First off, they are not breaking the law. People have the right to seek asylum, idiot. I won’t even try to explain it to you idiot trump supporters because you blindly believe anything Fox tells you.

Secondly, in your world, prisoners don’t have the right to medicine? Even children?

F’uck you.

 
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They have a right to seek asylum at a port of entry. They dont have a right to cross the border moron.

What Is the Asylum Application Process?
There are two primary ways in which a person may apply for asylum in the United States: the affirmative process and the defensive process. Asylum seekers who arrive at a U.S. port of entry or enter the United States without inspection generally must apply through the defensive asylum process.
 

dave

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Hey moron, this one will blow your tiny little fragile mind. Asylum seekers can cross the border, at any location, be in the country for up to a year, and then seek asylum. Asylum seekers certainly are in the process of becoming a legal immigrant. They are not a legal immigrant until their asylum is granted.

So much stupid with you. Keep talking and displaying your idiocy.
So now you have changed what you said and agree with what I said and then call me stupid. Nice job.
 

dave

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What Is the Asylum Application Process?
There are two primary ways in which a person may apply for asylum in the United States: the affirmative process and the defensive process. Asylum seekers who arrive at a U.S. port of entry or enter the United States without inspection generally must apply through the defensive asylum process.
Enter illegally. If they are picked up by CBP they will be deported. If they claim asylum they will be detained and given their process. They can claim they fear being returned and they enter a different process. It is illegal to enter the US without papers.
 
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So now you have changed what you said and agree with what I said and then call me stupid. Nice job.

I’m not agreeing with a single thing you said. LMAO! Everything you said was wrong.

F’ucking moron. The sad part is, you don’t even realize you are a f’ucking idiot.
 
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They have a right to seek asylum at a port of entry. They dont have a right to cross the border moron.

What Is the Asylum Application Process?
There are two primary ways in which a person may apply for asylum in the United States: the affirmative process and the defensive process. Asylum seekers who arrive at a U.S. port of entry or enter the United States without inspection generally must apply through the defensive asylum process.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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of **** you trump supporters are supporting. America is becoming Nazi Germany.

Absolutely f’ucking disgusting.

https://news.yahoo.com/border-patro...t-kids-medicine-us-doctors-say-225354608.html
Hahahaha headline is clearly misleading. It’s clickbait for the moron brigade.

A CBP official with knowledge of the agency’s medical operations on the border explained this policy is for the safety of the detainees themselves.

“You can imagine a migrant or an alien comes across and maybe they have a bag or just a pocket full of pills and they say 'Oh, this is for my high blood pressure,'” the CBP official told Yahoo News. “There's no way of knowing what that is. It could be an illicit substance. It could be something that some unlicensed provider gave them on the other side of the border. It could be dangerous, it could be harmful.”

“So unless it is very clear that it is from a legitimate provider and that it's a legitimate medication,” he continued, “generally speaking, Border Patrol will confiscate that, but only in the context of making sure that alien or migrant is evaluated onsite or at a local hospital to identify what medication they need.” Once the migrant receives a diagnosis and a U.S. prescription, the official said, Border Patrol agents will then fill the prescription and dispense medication accordingly. “We do not have the migrants self-medicating while they're in holding.”

Claims that Border Patrol agents confiscate medications arbitrarily and deny access to necessary treatment are “clearly not true,” he insisted. “It's actually going above and beyond in terms of ensuring the safety and the security and also the medical appropriateness of the prescriptions and the dosing of the medicine. No one pays more attention and interest and is more dedicated to the health and well-being and the safety and security of the migrants in our custody than Border Patrol.”

Asked whether this process is always followed for every migrant who enters custody with medication, the CBP official said, “Yes, that is the standard practice.
 

dave

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They dont have a right to cross moron. You yourself admitted they are not legal immigrants.
 
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They have a right to seek asylum at a port of entry. They dont have a right to cross the border moron.

What Is the Asylum Application Process?
There are two primary ways in which a person may apply for asylum in the United States: the affirmative process and the defensive process. Asylum seekers who arrive at a U.S. port of entry or enter the United States without inspection generally must apply through the defensive asylum process.
 

dave

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Can you point out in that quote where it says if they enter without inspection that it is legal? Seeking asylum is a process to skirt legal immigration. You dont seek asylum if you have a RIGHT to be in the US.
 

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Let's talk about the medical implications of taking someone's meds while in the process of being arrested:
  • Blood pressure meds usually take over a month to achieve steady state and missing a day or two does not overly change the patients chance of having a cardiac event. The fact that the patient could make such a trek at least proves that the patient is not fragile and at risk for missing a dose
  • Kids/adults with diabetes do carry more risk if their meds are decreased or taken away. Even then diabetes pills are more maintenance drugs which means if you miss a dose you don't double down, you just take the next dose. Injections are different situation. I think they talked about kids. If this is the case, in the US, if a parent knowingly puts their kids with diabetes at risk, like going on a hiking trip in the middle of the desert where dehydration could be a realistic outcome, most would think that the parent would be convicted of child abuse.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a baggy or other unmarked container, the arresting officer would confiscate the drugs at the time of arrest. They would not let the citizen keep their unmarked pills and take them to a holding cell with them. They have no idea what the pills are. Could be drugs, poison, etc. This is not an immigration issue, it's a safety issue.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a property identified container and had a valid ID to prove that the meds was RXed to them, the officer would still take the meds but may allow access once they went through the system and checked to make sure that the pills were the correct Rx. But they would still do their due diligence before letting the citizen take another pill.
 

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Let's talk about the medical implications of taking someone's meds while in the process of being arrested:
  • Blood pressure meds usually take over a month to achieve steady state and missing a day or two does not overly change the patients chance of having a cardiac event. The fact that the patient could make such a trek at least proves that the patient is not fragile and at risk for missing a dose
  • Kids/adults with diabetes do carry more risk if their meds are decreased or taken away. Even then diabetes pills are more maintenance drugs which means if you miss a dose you don't double down, you just take the next dose. Injections are different situation. I think they talked about kids. If this is the case, in the US, if a parent knowingly puts their kids with diabetes at risk, like going on a hiking trip in the middle of the desert where dehydration could be a realistic outcome, most would think that the parent would be convicted of child abuse.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a baggy or other unmarked container, the arresting officer would confiscate the drugs at the time of arrest. They would not let the citizen keep their unmarked pills and take them to a holding cell with them. They have no idea what the pills are. Could be drugs, poison, etc. This is not an immigration issue, it's a safety issue.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a property identified container and had a valid ID to prove that the meds was RXed to them, the officer would still take the meds but may allow access once they went through the system and checked to make sure that the pills were the correct Rx. But they would still do their due diligence before letting the citizen take another pill.
That is for those being arrested. Illegal crossing the border, people are detained but not arrested. Difference. But regardless, I'm in favor of the same policies of temporarily taking the medications away from those crossing the border but kept in close-by vicinity as the individual is being processed. Only makes sense. Problem is we don't have enough personnel and facilities to process along with a very flawed process this Administration has put forward which has made the problem worse.

And, dave is dead wrong in everything he has said in this thread about asylum. No surprised there. But keep doubling down on stupidity. That is what you people do.
 

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That is for those being arrested. Illegal crossing the border, people are detained but not arrested. Difference. But regardless, I'm in favor of the same policies of temporarily taking the medications away from those crossing the border but kept in close-by vicinity as the individual is being processed. Only makes sense. Problem is we don't have enough personnel and facilities to process along with a very flawed process this Administration has put forward which has made the problem worse.

And, dave is dead wrong in everything he has said in this thread about asylum. No surprised there. But keep doubling down on stupidity. That is what you people do.
We don’t do catch and release any more Bru.
 

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That is for those being arrested. Illegal crossing the border, people are detained but not arrested. Difference. But regardless, I'm in favor of the same policies of temporarily taking the medications away from those crossing the border but kept in close-by vicinity as the individual is being processed. Only makes sense. Problem is we don't have enough personnel and facilities to process along with a very flawed process the OBAMA Administration has put forward which has made the problem worse.
Agree...
 
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Let's talk about the medical implications of taking someone's meds while in the process of being arrested:
  • Blood pressure meds usually take over a month to achieve steady state and missing a day or two does not overly change the patients chance of having a cardiac event. The fact that the patient could make such a trek at least proves that the patient is not fragile and at risk for missing a dose
  • Kids/adults with diabetes do carry more risk if their meds are decreased or taken away. Even then diabetes pills are more maintenance drugs which means if you miss a dose you don't double down, you just take the next dose. Injections are different situation. I think they talked about kids. If this is the case, in the US, if a parent knowingly puts their kids with diabetes at risk, like going on a hiking trip in the middle of the desert where dehydration could be a realistic outcome, most would think that the parent would be convicted of child abuse.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a baggy or other unmarked container, the arresting officer would confiscate the drugs at the time of arrest. They would not let the citizen keep their unmarked pills and take them to a holding cell with them. They have no idea what the pills are. Could be drugs, poison, etc. This is not an immigration issue, it's a safety issue.
  • If a US citizen was arrested in the US and had pills in a property identified container and had a valid ID to prove that the meds was RXed to them, the officer would still take the meds but may allow access once they went through the system and checked to make sure that the pills were the correct Rx. But they would still do their due diligence before letting the citizen take another pill.

Look at you attempting to justify taking someone's medications from them. Not surprised at all...not to mention you have no f'ucking clue what you're talking about regarding medications. Blood pressure medication can make a difference in as little as 24-36 hours. Idiot.
 

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Hahahaha headline is clearly misleading. It’s clickbait for the moron brigade.

A CBP official with knowledge of the agency’s medical operations on the border explained this policy is for the safety of the detainees themselves.

“You can imagine a migrant or an alien comes across and maybe they have a bag or just a pocket full of pills and they say 'Oh, this is for my high blood pressure,'” the CBP official told Yahoo News. “There's no way of knowing what that is. It could be an illicit substance. It could be something that some unlicensed provider gave them on the other side of the border. It could be dangerous, it could be harmful.”

“So unless it is very clear that it is from a legitimate provider and that it's a legitimate medication,” he continued, “generally speaking, Border Patrol will confiscate that, but only in the context of making sure that alien or migrant is evaluated onsite or at a local hospital to identify what medication they need.” Once the migrant receives a diagnosis and a U.S. prescription, the official said, Border Patrol agents will then fill the prescription and dispense medication accordingly. “We do not have the migrants self-medicating while they're in holding.”

Claims that Border Patrol agents confiscate medications arbitrarily and deny access to necessary treatment are “clearly not true,” he insisted. “It's actually going above and beyond in terms of ensuring the safety and the security and also the medical appropriateness of the prescriptions and the dosing of the medicine. No one pays more attention and interest and is more dedicated to the health and well-being and the safety and security of the migrants in our custody than Border Patrol.”

Asked whether this process is always followed for every migrant who enters custody with medication, the CBP official said, “Yes, that is the standard practice.

He's a gullible loon.