With Bolden going to Duke and Lee not certain if he's coming back.Do you think Wynard could get a shot to play at the 4 or 5.
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If you mean Wynyard, then Yes.
He's 6' 10" 260lbs per Cal. He'll have the opportunity to succeed.
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He's 6' 10" 260lbs per Cal. He'll have the opportunity to succeed.
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I can't wait for him to prove everyone here wrong.
Can you link that? Because I only remember Cal saying he offered to play Wynyard but he declined and redshirted.
You know, I'm hoping very much that he can help contribute some this year for the team. He looks like he has some decent skills in that video but he also looks very slow and like he never jumps more than a couple of inches off the floor. But, that was in 2015 so, hopefully, he has been working hard since getting to UK and improving on his conditioning and skill work. I'm sure the coaches have been working hard with him and just hope he can contribute at least a little bit this year. I won't be expecting much from him so if he gives us anything I will be pleased.
Cal says everything for a reason. He is trying to take expectations down a notch for Tai, but he will contribute this year.
In our system, Wynyard and Humphries are 5s. Adebayo should be a hybrid 4/5. Wynyard is a legitimate 6-10, 260. Wynyard is a better low post player than people think, and several sources have said his game improved last winter. Every player has strengths and weaknesses. Wynyard is a physical player who should be a real rebounding force. He is a capable low post scorer, but at this point his useful shooting range is inside 12-15 feet. He isn't a bad free throw shooter. His defensive skills will be a work in progress. But because of his experience in international play, he is farther along defensively than Humphries was when he arrived on campus last summer. Wynyard is going to play.
I'm not expecting him to be able to contribute until the 2017-18 season at the earliest. I'll be happy to be wrong though.
I believe Cal did say that Tai preferred to redshirt last season.
LOL! How would you know what Calipari thinks about his players? Calipari says things to motivate players, but there is no reason to believe he would broadcast his real thoughts about a player. Why would he? If you want a good example, go back and look at the things Calipari said about Derek Willis early last season. It was pretty bad. Willis sounded like a lost cause. Shortly thereafter, Willis became a key starter. Before Wynyard signed, Calipari observed him in international play. That's a much better barometer of a player's potential than watching a few AAU games where most points are scored in transition and nobody tries to play defense. If Calipari was not impressed with Wynyard's basketball skills, Wynyard would not be at Kentucky now. On our next team, we have 2 centers, Humphries, Wynyard, and a hybrid 4/5 player, Adebayo. Maybe Lee comes back, but that isn't the current scuttlebutt. Wynyard is going to play. Wynyard's defensive skills will be a work in progress, but he showed excellent strength and rebounding skills a year ago in the NHS. Since then, he has been tutored by Kenny Payne for half a season. Nobody has to guess how many points and rebounds Wynyard will average, but chances are good that Wynyard will have a role in Calipari's playing rotation.
Cal could have been trolling everyone with the "long ways from contributing" comment. I mean the season is months away so he's technically not going to contribute for a while. Watch him be amazing game 1.
I wasn't even talking to you, clown. He said Cal said something that Cal is not on record as saying.
He either needs to provide a source or can it.
True he's not currently impressing Cal. Things can change. Jorts and Willis are two examples.
He would've played a few minutes last season had he not said no to cal about playing. He will not say no this season and he will get a chance to show people what he can do. He needed the redshirt and this offseason to improve conditioning I'm sure he we will be in at least decent shape and he will get the opportunity to succeed. Especially if Lee doesn't come back. And hell who knows wynyard could easily be better than Lee right now. He's got skills, size, nice touch, and he's a bruiser down low. I'm excited to see what he can do. He'll be a big time contributor at somepoint in his career cal didn't pursue him for him to be a practice player his whole college career. He's a scholarship player not walk on, he's gonna do some things here at UK.
I love how quick our fans are to write players off if they don't contribute the second they get here. Kinda like willis before last season. It's hilarious tbh because I'm pretty sure wynyard was a borderline 4/5 star player in his original class before reclassifying, yet few here think he'll be able to contribute this coming season. And the only reason he joined mid-season is because cal wanted him to get his feet wet so he would be ready to contribute next season because cal actually does see potential for him to be a big time player. Literally the only thing he has 'a ways to go' on is his conditioning. His skill level, rebounding and everything else for his position are on par as far as being a big time college player goes just needs more quickness.
Cal said he had a ways to go with his conditioning, he DID NOT say he had a ways to go as far as ability goes in order to contribute. That's just dumb. Cal wouldn't waste a scholarship on a project that doesn't have the ability to contribute. This isn't tubby. Cal doesn't recruit projects. He recruits ball players. If the player is lacking skill but has out of this world athleticism cal will go after them. But if the player is like wynyard and is more of a bruiser and doesn't have the ability to jump out the gym then you better believe he at least has the ability or else cal wouldn't have gone after him. The player has to have one or the other for cal to go after them. So you better believe the ability is there.
I love how quick our fans are to write players off if they don't contribute the second they get here. Kinda like willis before last season. It's hilarious tbh because I'm pretty sure wynyard was a borderline 4/5 star player in his original class before reclassifying, yet few here think he'll be able to contribute this coming season. And the only reason he joined mid-season is because cal wanted him to get his feet wet so he would be ready to contribute next season because cal actually does see potential for him to be a big time player. Literally the only thing he has 'a ways to go' on is his conditioning. His skill level, rebounding and everything else for his position are on par as far as being a big time college player goes just needs more quickness.
Cal said he had a ways to go with his conditioning, he DID NOT say he had a ways to go as far as ability goes in order to contribute. That's just dumb. Cal wouldn't waste a scholarship on a project that doesn't have the ability to contribute. This isn't tubby. Cal doesn't recruit projects. He recruits ball players. If the player is lacking skill but has out of this world athleticism cal will go after them. But if the player is like wynyard and is more of a bruiser and doesn't have the ability to jump out the gym then you better believe he at least has the ability or else cal wouldn't have gone after him. The player has to have one or the other for cal to go after them. So you better believe the ability is there.
I was quoting the previous poster, but I am pretty sure Cal did say something along those lines. Could be wrong, but I think it was something like "a ways to go"
I couldn't find him saying that. If you can, would you please post a link.
I see no reason to take the word of a rival fan.
He has a ways to go with conditioning, not contributing. Humphries has a ways to go with conditioning also. But he's going to contribute. Wynyard has the ability to contribute just like humph, both of them are a long ways as far as being in shape goes. But as far as ability goes. They're both ready to contribute. He never said Wynyard was a long ways from contributing that's just not true. Cal tried to get him minutes last season but Wynyard said he wanted to keep the redshirt on
I've been looking, can't find it atm, but will post it if I do. I'm not taking his word for it, I'm almost certain I read the same thing or something along those lines anyways. Pretty sure it was after the season as well.
He's wrong cal never said he was a long ways from contributing. Just a troll trying to troll.
I read it.It said his conditioning has a ways to go,not contributing.
All we need from him next year is 5 fouls, 2 points and 2-3 boards....anything beyond that will be gravy
I hope he isn't just a marginal mop up duty bench player next season. I hope, and think he will, get the chance to play around 10 minutes a game next season. If he gets that then that means he'll be contributing. And then the following season he'll be ready to have a breakout sophomore season after all of our players leave for the draft, could be a starter in the 17-18 season. Him at the 4 and Humphries at the 5 would be a very physical very good rebounding combo in the future. Unlimited amount of skill between the 2 also. And by then after all that time working with Kenny payne they should be in damn good shape. They'll look like complete different, transformed people by 17-18. Can't wait!
I think you might be literally retarded if you think I'm a troll. And I just found the link and trying to copy on my phone so you will shut the hell up
Nah man, you're wrong.
Here you go @Aike
On Tai Wynyard's progress last semester and how much further he has to go: “He got better, but he's got a ways to go. Tai's on a different path. Isaac was on a different path. Charles was on a different path. So was Derek and Dom. They're all on different paths. Eventually Tai's gonna be a good player here, but it'll take him time. He's not on the same path as some of these guys, but he's physically tough and strong.”
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...q-calipari-looks-ahead-16-17-season/84243332/
Thanks. Not shocked that he said something like this, but the phrasing is important.
"Ways to go" and "Long way from contributing" don't have the same meaning, in my book.
For instance, I think it would be fair to say that Matthews had a ways to go last year. He was still a contributor.
I would think someone with a ways to go could still potentially contribute in spots.
Truth is, none of us know yet.
Yeah I agree there could be a difference but in my second post I did say that I thought it was actually "a ways to go". I'm still waiting on @andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK to chime in since he called me a troll and said there was nothing said like that and it was only about conditioning.
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QUOTE="Nubb16, post: 4608798, member: 3878"]Nah man, you're wrong.
Here you go @Aike
On Tai Wynyard's progress last semester and how much further he has to go: “He got better, but he's got a ways to go. Tai's on a different path. Isaac was on a different path. Charles was on a different path. So was Derek and Dom. They're all on different paths. Eventually Tai's gonna be a good player here, but it'll take him time. He's not on the same path as some of these guys, but he's physically tough and strong.”
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...q-calipari-looks-ahead-16-17-season/84243332/[/QUOTE]
QUOTE="Nubb16, post: 4608798, member: 3878"]Nah man, you're wrong.
Here you go @Aike
On Tai Wynyard's progress last semester and how much further he has to go: “He got better, but he's got a ways to go. Tai's on a different path. Isaac was on a different path. Charles was on a different path. So was Derek and Dom. They're all on different paths. Eventually Tai's gonna be a good player here, but it'll take him time. He's not on the same path as some of these guys, but he's physically tough and strong.”
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...q-calipari-looks-ahead-16-17-season/84243332/[/QUOTE]