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MegaBlue05

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Between the garbage product and TKO’s enshitification of WWE, I think I might be done outside of reading the results.

I can’t support a company making “budget cuts” by cutting talent when they charge $9,000 for tickets and paid two executives $100M last year. Greedy f—-ks.
 

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I imagine WWE's goal is to model their roster like NBA teams were doing In the Big Three era - three stars making a ton of money, everyone else a replaceable role player on a cheap deal. Of course WWE needs more than three stars, but it's the general philosophy hey are likely going for. At this point, they've had far too many people willing to sign deals for below market value that they know they can easily get away with it.

And it's not likely that any of their top stars are likely to ever go to AEW. I mean why would they? They barely work. If they get a title and they basically become a part-timer. Very few house shows. Top stars get paid well. On a larger platform. Get to be harassed by fans because the company won't pay for security. Get to mingle with C list celebrities. Have your booking screwed up because the company wants to feature some celebrity named Ham Biscuit.

Until AEW or someone else comes along that can be a legitimate threat to WWE's business interests, it's not going to change.
 

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End of the day I'm just a guy online. I'm not going to pretend I'm saddened because no one died and I don't know these wrestlers or behind the scenes people. Let the locker room, their friends, feel for them. I imagine the last few weeks have been crazy with the TKO interference and the releases but as Punk said in his pipe bomb, he's just a spoke on the wheel and when he's gone, the wheel's gonna keep turning and fans will still pour money into the company. That applies to every wrestler. Someone on Reddit actually said he believes WWE will be done by decade's end. You heard it there first, TKO is going to kill WWE and it'll be no more within four years...

The New Day had a ton of success but after E left, it wasn't the same and they mainly did backstage segments. Who knows what they expected or what they were offered but you can't expect a business to roll out a red carpet for midcard guys doing stuff backstage and had maybe one match per month. And the two MFT guys are awful. Mateo currently has the aura of a puddle on a sidewalk and Loa somehow botched a low blow in front of the audience, the camera, and God. What do you want a business worth billions to do with that?
 
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End of the day I'm just a guy online. I'm not going to pretend I'm saddened because no one died and I don't know these wrestlers or behind the scenes people. Let the locker room, their friends, feel for them. I imagine the last few weeks have been crazy with the TKO interference and the releases but as Punk said in his pipe bomb, he's just a spoke on the wheel and when he's gone, the wheel's gonna keep turning and fans will still pour money into the company. That applies to every wrestler. Someone on Reddit actually said he believes WWE will be done by decade's end. You heard it there first, TKO is going to kill WWE and it'll be no more within four years...

The New Day had a ton of success but after E left, it wasn't the same and they mainly did backstage segments. Who knows what they expected or what they were offered but you can't expect a business to roll out a red carpet for midcard guys doing stuff backstage and had maybe one match per month. And the two MFT guys are awful. Mateo currently has the aura of a puddle on a sidewalk and Loa somehow botched a low blow in front of the audience, the camera, and God. What do you want a business worth billions to do with that?
Ya it’s possible - the first sign would be less attendance then if prices are lowered significantly and crowd doesn’t pick up that ya that’s alarming.

Doesn’t Netflix/raw have a 10 year deal with an opt out option after 5 years - if a those things happen ya it could get interesting.
 
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Where does this leave the New Day? Their contract didn't expire (which would make them free agents immediately), and they weren't released (90-day waiting period while still being paid their downside). Are they free to sign elsewhere today, or do they have to wait some period of time?
 

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Where does this leave the New Day? Their contract didn't expire (which would make them free agents immediately), and they weren't released (90-day waiting period while still being paid their downside). Are they free to sign elsewhere today, or do they have to wait some period of time?
Pretty sure I read they’d have to wait 90 days.
 
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Do it - would bring something back to tag team wrestling


Could also add...
Cage and Cope
Don Callis Family
Paid in Full (Big Bill & Bryan Keith)
The Outrunners
Private Party
LFI
Hurt Syndicate
Kingston & Ortiz
Jurassic Express if Luchasaurus is healthy in time for it
El Sky Team (Mistico and Mascara Dorada)
Top Flight

Where does this leave the New Day? Their contract didn't expire (which would make them free agents immediately), and they weren't released (90-day waiting period while still being paid their downside). Are they free to sign elsewhere today, or do they have to wait some period of time?
Main roster releases have to wait 90 days.
 
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AEW will have a killer tag division and a great midcard. And you know WWE is purposely wasting Gargano at the moment so he doesn't join Ciampa in 90 days. He and LeRae will be gone sooner rather than later. Could have a situation where a show like Collision is basically an old school NXT black and gold type show.
 

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AEW will have a killer tag division and a great midcard. And you know WWE is purposely wasting Gargano at the moment so he doesn't join Ciampa in 90 days. He and LeRae will be gone sooner rather than later. Could have a situation where a show like Collision is basically an old school NXT black and gold type show.
Apparently TK was a big nxt black and gold fan - guess he literally gets to live out his dream signing the roster up to AEW.
 
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WWE is going to mess around and potentially foster an environment where main roster veterans are going to resent the younger (and cheaper) talent because the veterans will look at working with them as training their replacements.
 

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WWE is going to mess around and potentially foster an environment where main roster veterans are going to resent the younger (and cheaper) talent because the veterans will look at working with them as training their replacements.
I mean isn’t that how locker rooms In general were in the 80s and 90s so basically we are going back to the way locker rooms used to be.
 

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WWE is going to mess around and potentially foster an environment where main roster veterans are going to resent the younger (and cheaper) talent because the veterans will look at working with them as training their replacements.
I mean you're just making this up though lol. In the real world, Punk wanted to work with younger talent in AEW and has said he'd like to work with NXT and he knows he's only got a couple years left. Orton is in pure zenmode and has already worked with Evans. Brock just made Oba look like the future for multiple weeks. Rollins seems cool with everything and everyone. Reigns has never been a problem. Cody isn't going to become resentful in WWE as a company man with a company sponsored podcast and has already worked with Saints.

I don't know what you're talking about here. A few times a year you paint a picture of a WWE in chaos and the roster at each other's throats when it's not. Just stick with facts. Their creative sucks. Just go with that.