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Nightwish

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Is ROH rolled into the AEW numbers?
Appears to be.

https://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/roster/aew/

I say grain of salt because the site may be janky at best. Billy Gunn is included for WWE in 2025 which isn't true and they count Jesse Ventura as on the roster for last year. He did have a deal for an occasional SNME appearance but saying he's on the roster is a stretch. They also appeared to count wrestlers from TNA who made some appearances in NXT. That shouldn't equal you being a part of the WWE roster. Interesting to go through the names over the years though regardless.
 

Laparkafan

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How many people on this show got belts? Some of these belts I’ve never heard of “the CMLL world light heavyweight champion” “the CMLL Latin American champion”
 

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How many people on this show got belts? Some of these belts I’ve never heard of “the CMLL world light heavyweight champion” “the CMLL Latin American champion”
CMLL has like 36 belts and doesn’t care about a single one of them. US fans who don’t know CMLL or lucha libre care more about them than CMLL does lol.

And no I am not exaggerating when I say 36, but I admit I could be off by 2-3.
 

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Appears to be.

https://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/roster/aew/

I say grain of salt because the site may be janky at best. Billy Gunn is included for WWE in 2025 which isn't true and they count Jesse Ventura as on the roster for last year. He did have a deal for an occasional SNME appearance but saying he's on the roster is a stretch. They also appeared to count wrestlers from TNA who made some appearances in NXT. That shouldn't equal you being a part of the WWE roster. Interesting to go through the names over the years though regardless.
Yep that’s exactly the site I figured he was using. I bet I could go on there now and easily find a minimum of 10 names who are retired (not fake retired), were never wrestlers, were never wrestlers in AEW, or aren’t even under contract before I even get halfway thru the list

It is neat for to look back at past rosters even if historically inaccurate.
 

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Yep that’s exactly the site I figured he was using. I bet I could go on there now and easily find a minimum of 10 names who are retired (not fake retired), were never wrestlers, were never wrestlers in AEW, or aren’t even under contract before I even get halfway thru the list

It is neat for to look back at past rosters even if historically inaccurate.
For example:
  1. Alex Marvez
  2. Alicia Atout
  3. Arkady Aura
  4. Bobby Cruise
  5. Brodie Lee Jr
  6. Christopher Daniels (retired over a year ago)
  7. Don Callis
  8. Excalibur
  9. Ian Riccaboni
  10. Jerry Lynn
And I skipped listing quite a few people who only appear in AEW to do an occasional job because I’ve never once seen confirmation what their contract status is.

I don’t know if they are under AEW deals or if there is even such a thing as an ROH deal. I’m sure at least some of them are actually signed to some sort of deal because of how frequently they are used in ROH but I can’t say for certainty
 

Laparkafan

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For example:
  1. Alex Marvez
  2. Alicia Atout
  3. Arkady Aura
  4. Bobby Cruise
  5. Brodie Lee Jr
  6. Christopher Daniels (retired over a year ago)
  7. Don Callis
  8. Excalibur
  9. Ian Riccaboni
  10. Jerry Lynn
And I skipped listing quite a few people who only appear in AEW to do an occasional job because I’ve never once seen confirmation what their contract status is.

I don’t know if they are under AEW deals or if there is even such a thing as an ROH deal. I’m sure at least some of them are actually signed to some sort of deal because of how frequently they are used in ROH but I can’t say for certainty
Well like purazzo was signed to AEW and debuted there but now in roh so idk if there’s roh only per se but it’s prob less money if your primary on roh like lee moriarty
 

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Well like purazzo was signed to AEW and debuted there but now in roh so idk if there’s roh only per se but it’s prob less money if your primary on roh like lee moriarty
Yeah I don't know. I know Lee and Deonna are on full-time AEW deals because they are on the AEW website. It's people like Dalton Castle, Adam Priest, etc. who I don't know about because they aren't on the AEW website, so they aren't on full-time deals. But they work ROH so frequently that they surely have to be on some sort of deal.

And then I know at some point they had developmental type contracts. I don't know if they still do or not but they did at one point because Moriarity and Skye Blue were signed to them. It was something like a smaller base salary than a regular AEW deal but then they got paid per appearance on top of that. Basically it is sort of like an NXT deal, but in NXT instead of pay per appearance they just get paid extra if they have to go on the road. Or at least they did at one point, things may have changed in that regard under TKO.

I know the pay was pretty decent because Moriarity at one point said he turned down a full time-TNA deal to take that type of AEW deal because it paid a lot more.
 

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This really the only PPV other than WrestleMania that has any business being a two-nighter because of how long the two Rumble matches are

 

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They only do a couple matches other than the rumble so guessing they’d add some Midcard matches?
I'd assume they would do two, maybe three, matches in addition to each Rumble. I could see them making the Rumbles lasting longer and only doing two other matches. After all, using less people on the card means more justification for slashing people's pay or cutting them.
 
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