Wrestling Thread

[Laparkafan]

 

[Glenn's Take]

Jeff Hardy on a cruise ship. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

Since we are on this tribalism surprised no one mention Cardona said he made more on indies than his current wwe salary.

Yeah but there’s a caveat. Cardona built his brand in WWE and largely got that indie following by shock value, being the anti-Ryder. Very few people will make WWE money outside of WWE. That’s why alternatives like AEW, MLW, NWA, GCW, TNA etc are good for the industry. You don’t even have to like those brands — simply not actively rooting for their demise is a positive IMO. I don’t like GCW, but I’m not out here running the anti-GCW flag either. I want as much wrestling as possible out there for people to enjoy and for more wrestlers to get paid.

 

[Laparkafan]

The whole wcw thing is complicated I mean tna has been around 25 years so without aol/time warner canning it it’s possible wcw could have survived but while the nwo was great it had a shelf life and giving those guys creative control squashed anyone from getting over and etc etc but it is what it is

 

[Laparkafan]

Yeah but there’s a caveat. Cardona built his brand in WWE and largely got that indie following by shock value, being the anti-Ryder. Very few people will make WWE money outside of WWE. That’s why alternatives like AEW, MLW, NWA, GCW, TNA etc are good for the industry. You don’t even have to like those brands — simply not actively rooting for their demise is a positive IMO. I don’t like GCW, but I’m not out here running the anti-GCW flag either. I want as much wrestling as possible out there for people to enjoy and for more wrestlers to get paid.

He prob also made money off merch in indies too?

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

He prob also made money off merch in indies too?

Oh for sure. Wouldn’t you agree he was getting a lot of buzz for the idea that “Zack Ryder is cussing and having deathmatches now!!?? WTF?” That was where his buzz was coming from. It wasn’t like he was some indie darling who got himself over organically. And btw that’s a credit to WWE. They build massive and enduring brands.

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[Laparkafan]

Geez

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[GeraldV]

Geez

That dude is cursed.

 

[Laparkafan]

That dude is cursed.

I don’t remember any injuries in njpw but ever since he’s been in AEW it’s been consistently injuries after 3 matches back at most

 

[Laparkafan]

 

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[American Dragon]

Since we are on this tribalism surprised no one mention Cardona said he made more on indies than his current wwe salary.

Jordynne Grace did too. She was rolling in money from OnlyFans. It’s only going to get easier to make more money outside of WWE than as part of WWE with them slashing salaries.

I imagine it’s going to eventually get to the point where NBA teams were in the big two and big three era - only the top dogs make big bucks and everyone else is making a tiny fraction of those top dogs. And they will be considered expendable if they ask for more money because there’s always going to be some Fed mark willing to work for that minimum contract instead.

 

[American Dragon]

Saying he is “not perfect” is a hell of a way to refer to a guy who is a serial rapist, abuser, and racist.