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Wasker77

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You can replace the name Martinez with Frost and “handed a starting job” with “handed a head coaching job” in your manifesto and it would be no less true

in fact it was Frost who fostered this mentality in AM and failed to recruit and/or develop any other viable options

he is lucky if AM doesn’t sue him for gross negligence for the millions he is likely to lose out on in lost NFL wages
Adrian in his best moments is not NFL worthy. I don’t know him, but I am guessing he is a good kid. After watching every single game he has ever played as a Husker I think he has shown the inability to quickly process what is happening around him in a game. He also makes catastrophic mistakes at crucial times. How many times have we watched the Huskers go from being on the cusp of victory to a heartbreaking loss because of something Adrian does or doesn’t do? Sure, his coaches have let him down (I am not giving them a pass either), but he is the one making these mistakes. This is my long version of saying Adrian simply does not win games.
 

tmcats

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Adrian in his best moments is not NFL worthy. I don’t know him, but I am guessing he is a good kid. After watching every single game he has ever played as a Husker I think he has shown the inability to quickly process what is happening around him in a game. He also makes catastrophic mistakes at crucial times. How many times have we watched the Huskers go from being on the cusp of victory to a heartbreaking loss because of something Adrian does or doesn’t do? Sure, his coaches have let him down (I am not giving them a pass either), but he is the one making these mistakes. This is my long version of saying Adrian simply does not win games.
I just can't wait to revisit all these posts next fall, starting with the Missouri and Tulane games, then @ OU. Either it's going to be mighty painful or uproarious schadenfreude. Obviously, I don't know which today.
 

NYC-Husker

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Why would he say anything else? He's with another team...stop acting like a crazy ex.

I love all the posts like "what else is he supposed to say?"

Like it's impossible to say something like "I'm excited by the potential of my new team, there are some great players and we're looking to win some big games."

That would have been so difficult, so nobody can blame him for taking a shot at his last team (and actually acting like, you know, a crazy ex).
 

JOHNNY N

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it will be interesting if he can hang onto the ball and make clutch passes

I just am a lil upset our ut qb did'nt bring along ut's rb....

always be selling
I don't think that even in its best form Nebraska can put together an NIL deal like the one bijan has at Texas.
 

Anon1656421729

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I love all the posts like "what else is he supposed to say?"

Like it's impossible to say something like "I'm excited by the potential of my new team, there are some great players and we're looking to win some big games."

That would have been so difficult, so nobody can blame him for taking a shot at his last team (and actually acting like, you know, a crazy ex).
If you took that as a shot against Nebraska then you need help.

"He didn't kiss our asses at his current team's presser"

Grow up, he's gone. Live with it.
 

Cimex

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You can say a lot of things about Martinez, but that just isn't true.
Did he or did he not vote to pass on going to his first and ever bowl game? Sorry, like it or not, he's a loser and we are better off without him.
 

NYC-Husker

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If you took that as a shot against Nebraska then you need help.

"He didn't kiss our asses at his current team's presser"

Grow up, he's gone. Live with it.

Did you not understand that he said that K State is more talented than Nebraska? That is obviously a shot against Nebraska.

To be fair, he may be correct and K State could be more talented than Nebraska, and I think most of us are glad he's gone since he's literally choked away games for 4 straight seasons now and hopefully Thompson is an upgrade.

Grow up and stop replying to my posts with idiotic insults that don't refute what I type.
 

huskat

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Did he or did he not vote to pass on going to his first and ever bowl game? Sorry, like it or not, he's a loser and we are better off without him.
Everyone on here seems to think he voted in that way; I don't know if that is actually true. Even if that is true, it doesn't change my point. I bolded the following statement, and replied that this wasn't true: "constantly insinuates he was treated unfairly or that the failure was someone else's fault". Again, you can say a lot of things about him, but he rarely if ever claimed he was treated unfairly or his failure was someone's fault. Off the field, he overwhelmingly said and did the right things. On the field...not so much.
 

Stormking

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No he isn’t, his quote “ probably the best team he has surrounded himself with”
Well Nebraska hasn't been a good team with this coaching staff being the leaders of it. A very bad coached team and it has shown almost every gameday.
. He definitely has a better HC at K STATE that will figure out how to win some we would lose here IMO
 

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at the very least, it will be interesting to see how things go for both Nebraska and Adrian.

It will either confirm what we all know, or it will throw a whole new wrench into the analysis.

If Adrian has a stellar year and Nebraska's offense sucks again.. then what?
 

tmcats

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at the very least, it will be interesting to see how things go for both Nebraska and Adrian.

It will either confirm what we all know, or it will throw a whole new wrench into the analysis.

If Adrian has a stellar year and Nebraska's offense sucks again.. then what?
This has been my view all along. Collin Klein personally drove to Lincoln to recruit AMart the moment he announced for the portal. Somebody here is very wrong. We'll see this fall.
 

bigboxes

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This has been my view all along. Collin Klein personally drove to Lincoln to recruit AMart the moment he announced for the portal. Somebody here is very wrong. We'll see this fall.
It doesn't matter what Amart does at K-State. I wish him the best. He is what he is. A losing QB for a blueblood school. We're not talking an aberration here. Amart lost routinely.
 

konaki

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Could Nebraska have tolerated another year of Martinez? If Klein is some sort of wizard he might help Adrian but I just don't see a leopard changing it's spots. I know Whipple is pretty good with QB's but I don't think he could turn Adrian around.

Now I don't blame all our football problems on Adrian, he had some pretty weak offensive linemen in front of him and bad coaching to boot, there was enough blame to go around.

I will eat crow if Adrian is all BIG12 and turns into an all star worthy of national acclaim. The only thing going in Adrian's favor is he's playing in an inferior conference with his girlfriend by his side : ). We shall see soon won't we.
 

Anon1656421729

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Did you not understand that he said that K State is more talented than Nebraska? That is obviously a shot against Nebraska.

To be fair, he may be correct and K State could be more talented than Nebraska, and I think most of us are glad he's gone since he's literally choked away games for 4 straight seasons now and hopefully Thompson is an upgrade.

Grow up and stop replying to my posts with idiotic insults that don't refute what I type.
Stay mad
 

meo1960

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Adrian in his best moments is not NFL worthy. I don’t know him, but I am guessing he is a good kid. After watching every single game he has ever played as a Husker I think he has shown the inability to quickly process what is happening around him in a game. He also makes catastrophic mistakes at crucial times. How many times have we watched the Huskers go from being on the cusp of victory to a heartbreaking loss because of something Adrian does or doesn’t do? Sure, his coaches have let him down (I am not giving them a pass either), but he is the one making these mistakes. This is my long version of saying Adrian simply does not win games.
Couldn't agree more.
 

NYC-Husker

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Lol, no one's mad, I enjoy these message board conversations, that's why I visit the site.

To summarize the world according to Shibesker:

NYC-Husker posts "wow" with a link to an interview with 2AM = grow up, don't act like a crazy ex.

2AM in an interview literally acts like a crazy ex = what else is he supposed to say?
 

tmcats

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Who cares?
  • noun: dramatic irony - a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
    ; plural noun: tragic irony
 

yunginsNU2

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  • noun: dramatic irony - a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
    ; plural noun: tragic irony
Can you look up the definition of douche bag next? Pretty sure u could just post a selfie
 

Big bo fan

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This has been my view all along. Collin Klein personally drove to Lincoln to recruit AMart the moment he announced for the portal. Somebody here is very wrong. We'll see this fall.
Somebody doesn’t have to be wrong, it might work out for both parties, sometimes change is needed.
 

redwine65

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I don't think that even in its best form Nebraska can put together an NIL deal like the one bijan has at Texas.
buffet should be highly offended by this, coke, nfm, bershire, dairy queen could all use a great rb making ads...
 

tmcats

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Somebody doesn’t have to be wrong, it might work out for both parties, sometimes change is needed.
No, that's a cop-out. All I've read here since AMart went portal is how awful he is as a QB. Mostly, he doesn't have a head for the game, low QB IQ. Obviously, K-Staters hope he didn't meet expectations because of the environment he played in the last four years, and that a switch to Manhattan, a new staff, and system will show as much. We'll see.
 

Redscarlet

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No, that's a cop-out. All I've read here since AMart went portal is how awful he is as a QB. Mostly, he doesn't have a head for the game, low QB IQ. Obviously, K-Staters hope he didn't meet expectations because of the environment he played in the last four years, and that a switch to Manhattan, a new staff, and system will show as much. We'll see.
Just remember you were warned ahead of time..
 

tmcats

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Just remember you were warned ahead of time..
LOL. That's the whole point here, Scarlet. We'll see. I haven't a clue whether it's AMart or N fans. But it sure makes for good entertainment talking about it.
 

bigboxes

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No, that's a cop-out. All I've read here since AMart went portal is how awful he is as a QB. Mostly, he doesn't have a head for the game, low QB IQ. Obviously, K-Staters hope he didn't meet expectations because of the environment he played in the last four years, and that a switch to Manhattan, a new staff, and system will show as much. We'll see.
You've seen what an awful QB he is by watching him play. You don't need to quote other people's opinion of him. You yourself know that he's just not good. It doesn't matter how he plays at KSU. He's sucked it up for 4 years. The most important metric is wins/losses. Total failure.
 

tmcats

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You've seen what an awful QB he is by watching him play. You don't need to quote other people's opinion of him. You yourself know that he's just not good. It doesn't matter how he plays at KSU. He's sucked it up for 4 years. The most important metric is wins/losses. Total failure.
I have watched very little N football since y'all left the conference. What I saw of AMart, versus OU and a couple other times, I was totally impressed. But, granted, I obviously don't have the depth of experience N fans have with the guy. That's part of the allure with him transferring to State. We'll see. You're right, scoreboard is what matters after all.
 

rgrachek

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You can say a lot of things about Martinez, but that just isn't true.
There's a reason though that he was sent away.

I'm sure he's a good kid, but he just couldn't get it done here, and much of our failings are on him. Although there were some other issues, Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan losses are frankly pretty much on him and critical mistakes.

Played about as well as he could against Wisconsin and OU.

Was pretty much a non-factor against tOSU.

We have learned a lesson the hard way the past 5 years. An indecisive QB who is a turnover machine is a loser. That includes Lee and AM. Armstrong, TM were different in that despite their weaknesses, they were decisive as runners and passers (albeit not too good mechanically) and were at least average on the turnover front.

That was the thing with Gill, Frazier, and Crouch, and even some of the other QBs along the way (Z. Taylor, S. Taylor, and even guys like Kethin McCant). They were decisive players, not scared of anything.
 

phoenix4nu

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I have watched very little N football since y'all left the conference. What I saw of AMart, versus OU and a couple other times, I was totally impressed. But, granted, I obviously don't have the depth of experience N fans have with the guy. That's part of the allure with him transferring to State. We'll see. You're right, scoreboard is what matters after all.
Go watch the Nebraska-Purdue game from last year.
 
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Redscarlet

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LOL. That's the whole point here, Scarlet. We'll see. I haven't a clue whether it's AMart or N fans. But it sure makes for good entertainment.
Well we seen him plenty of times when the game was on the line to win it he didn’t get the job done to finish…

Leave it at that..
 

Ki113rSk3r69

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I forget, did we have problems running the ball that game? Cause I’m trying to remember and it seems like we went away from the run? Maybe I’m wrong. I do remember AM throwing over receivers and to the other team that game…
 

Ki113rSk3r69

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Could Nebraska have tolerated another year of Martinez? If Klein is some sort of wizard he might help Adrian but I just don't see a leopard changing it's spots. I know Whipple is pretty good with QB's but I don't think he could turn Adrian around.

Now I don't blame all our football problems on Adrian, he had some pretty weak offensive linemen in front of him and bad coaching to boot, there was enough blame to go around.

I will eat crow if Adrian is all BIG12 and turns into an all star worthy of national acclaim. The only thing going in Adrian's favor is he's playing in an inferior conference with his girlfriend by his side : ). We shall see soon won't we.
Big 12 defenses sux. AM will fare better there. But the moment he plays against a good defense, he will be same old AM.