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Complete BS on that last shot. Really obvious moving screen. Not even close. Also Yeboah clearly fouled on the last shot. Sickening. Anyone telling people they should calm down about the refs should just keep their mouth closed and let people complain because that was a travesty on both counts.
He pretty much did. They just didn’t call the foul. They simply aren’t calling fouls in that situation..
What is the ******* point of having ******* rules if they don’t count in the last minute of the game? Sometimes I think basketball is the stupidest sport
With Myles, it’s a foul and they run to the monitors to check on a flagrant for an elbow to the face to boot. Zero doubt in my mind.
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Both are true.
1. RU blew the game in the 1st half
2. The foul was horrendous
PSU was playing in desperation mode most of the second half. Stevens looked like he saw a ghost most of the half. That block was a desperation play that payed off for them. I dont buy the ref conspiracy thing but it was bad non call. I have seen many calls like that ending games.
I watched the screen several times and the PSU guy was moving the entire time and he even pushed or pulled Yeboah out of the way. It is ridiculous as that was not called as being an illegal screen. It will be a shame if that causes us not to make the NCAA.
I thought PSU may have fouled on the boxout on the last rebound. The PSU player kept pushing Myles back.
1. Can we stop with the "he pulled/wrapped up" Yeboah? Yeboah was the one with his arms out hugged the defender.
2. A case could be made that the defender was "mostly" set until Yeboah crashes into him. Hugs him then spins the defender out of the way.
Defender does take a short hop/shuffle.
3. Where the f*** was Yeboah going? He looks like he is attempting to jump the pass for a steal from 10 feet away with his right arm out.
If he runs at the shooter then the screen doesn't matter.
Wow, no idea what play you were watching.
Yeboah first came through the lane following Dread and was screened by Stevens, giving Dread some separation.
Dread then cut to his left to get to a spot behind Harrar to receive the pass
Yeboah was running to the point where Dread was running to, but encountered Harrar along the way.
He tried to go to the right of Harrar (essentially going "under" the screen), but Harrar shifted his weight left into Yeboah's chest to clear him out
Yeboah's momentum was then shifted away from Dread and toward the passer (Brockington, I think). His arms wrapped around Harrar to halt that momentum, keep from falling down, and pull himself back on line to get to Dread, and he continued to fight around the screen.
Had Yeboah tried to go over the screen, he would have been a step behind because Dread already got separation on the first screen by Stevens.
Had Yeboah just taken the hit and gone down, there's a much higher chance that an offensive foul would have been called - but a ton of contact had already been let go in the game, so it's hard to think that it would have been called there. Yeboahcontinued to fight through the contact to get to Dread, and there was no whistle.
Bac you lose credibility with your blind loyalty to you're "its never the refs" "it always evens out" brand. It's a non serious anti intellectual position to take
Just say "I dont like blaming the refs" bc that's actually what it is
Just say "I dont like blaming the refs" bc that's actually what it is
To be fair, in this game, that blown call isn't why we lost. It was still a blown call, but when you've played yourself into a spot where you *need* a ref to call something accurately, you've generally let a ton of opportunities already pass by.
Late game calls are magnified, of course, as there's very little time to adapt and overcome. This one was a particularly bitter pill given how well the team fought back from down 21 to up 2 only to give up an open three because the other team violated the rules and got away with it. Wasn't *why* we lost, though.
I agree that bac's protestations about the refs are often absurd - but he is usually coming from a reactionary place against people who blame the refs for every little thing and don't own all the other mistakes made by the team.
Just as players can make mistakes that impact the game, though, so too can refs. It's okay to admit that.
You know there is a middle ground between ref conspiracy and perfect refs right?
yeah watched the replay why did Geo dribble to that spot on the right there rather dribble in the middle
Young seemed to never even be in the play, how is that possible as an option. I know Geo is first option but did Pike not think a double team was coming...also Harper didnt want take the shot..why
If we played better earlier if Pike didnt sub so poorly etc etc etc and we win anyway. But we didnt. And at that point in the game, that call was exactly the reason we lost. If the call was made, we win. Pretty simple
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khalid al emin on the CBS wrap up show said he wanted Geo Baker to come back and get the ball and drive it and have the ball in his hands at the end.
It was an egregious moving pick. That being said, if Kwadi was playing the defense he should have been playing - inside Dredd's jock closer to the family jewels than Dredd's underwear- that screen is worthless.
Why the flyin' F was he 10 feet away from Dredd giving up a wide open 3 when a 3 is the only way you lose in regulation???
Make them tie it at the foul line. Never under any f-in way do you allow a 3 of ANY kind in that circumstances cause you sure as F know its going in if you let them shoot it.
Pure idiocy lost this game with 27 seconds to go.
Its bc he is worried about Stevens flashing to the middle if you rewatch it. He is more concerned about giving him a bump then staying on his own man. Not sure if that is what Pike wanted him to do or not
There would have been time for that but everything was a mess at that point and they could just run a double at him again off Myles and now there is no time for anything else but passing to Myles who would have no ability to score
Yeboah was open the entire possession and Jacob should have been involved
It was just a discombobulated mess... and it wasnt a bad look at all by Yeboah but you have to get something better there with 25 seconds left
Guys
1.) it’s was a blatant offensive foul
2.) it’s a foul in that situation is called 1 out 5 times. With 10 minute to go...40-60% of the time. With the game on the line...called on the home team 1 out of 5 times
3.) we just didn’t get up there ...we needed to take away any three ball away at all cost and didn’t...
1.) it’s was a blatant offensive foul
2.) it’s a foul in that situation is called 1 out 5 times. With 10 minute to go...40-60% of the time. With the game on the line...called on the home team 1 out of 5 times
3.) we just didn’t get up there ...we needed to take away any three ball away at all cost and didn’t...
You're wrong on this one. This screen was egregious. We all wish our recent offensive tackles could locate and engage a blitzing linebacker like this guy did.
My argument is dont expect to be called be with 25 seconds if you bothered to read my postings
Akwasi needs to get there imo. That said the first bump by Stevens was also a foul. Dred was deep give him credit for making the shot. Hopefully we play with consistent energy and composure next week and find a way to win. Going to be a long few days here. I’ll know I will bring a lot of positive energy I hope the fans realize they can make a difference here. Hopefully we get a better whistle and aren’t looking at another 3/4 fouls half from the opposition.
Its natural for fans to be upset about a referee non call at the end of the game.The problem is the lack of consistency throughout a basketball game.Truth be told there could be a foul called on every possession but that isn't going to happen.It comes down to referee judgement when and what fouls are called.In nail biter games referee decisions have greater impact. What should concern Rutgers fans is that less fouls are called against the opponent and how that impacts the number of points made at the foul line.
You'd have the same argument whether it had happened in the first 25 seconds or the last 25 seconds. Your perennial argument seems to be don't expect *any* call to *ever* be called - just be 8-10 points better than your opponent so calls don't affect the outcome.
Refs usually won’t call a foul on that play against the home team in that spot of the game. Impressive that they got an open look from three there. I guess that coach isn’t that bad after all.
You can't both say "refs won't call that foul" and "impressive that they got an open look".... they fouled to get that open look, so not sure how impressive it was. Impressive that Dread had the cahones to drain the open shot after missing his last 6 threes... not impressive that he got an open look.
We should have run over the pick or over if they other guys should have tripped they're man. Any foul better than an open three.
In retrospect.
But with 20 plus seconds left you expect to get your turn to answer so not quite so clear as i first made it out to be.
Geo has a reputation as a last minute have winning shooter. He could well have received a foul call that others wouldn't if he drives jump stops and shoots.
Yeah he was .spacing was poor, Q was too close to Geo. Stevens only had to take two steps to scare off Geo from shot where it looked like a dble team.and was still able to easily get back to Q to get in his face.