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deedoubleyou

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I think guys who respect women as themselves get the biggest play. No games, just respect them, honor them, be nice, but be a real Man and treat 'em like Ladies. What Girl doesn't want that?

I totally agree with that. 100%. But you also have to respect yourself and be confident and in check of emotions. Most of the 'game' stuff only really appl;ies to when you're courting a girl, but remaning fun and even mysterious is a good thing even in a marriage. Keep it fresh. But mostly game to me is a way to screen women and weed out the ones I dont like, and the same with them. I'd rather not waste time chasing a gal who's not into me. I can find that out really fast with some easy tricks. That is in fact the first thing I do. I dont get tested as much as I used to because I do most of the testing now lol.
 

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I totally agree with that. 100%. But you also have to respect yourself and be confident and in check of emotions. Most of the 'game' stuff only really appl;ies to when you're courting a girl, but remaning fun and even mysterious is a good thing even in a marriage. Keep it fresh. But mostly game to me is a way to screen women and weed out the ones I dont like, and the same with them. I'd rather not waste time chasing a gal who's not into me. I can find that out really fast with some easy tricks. That is in fact the first thing I do. I dont get tested as much as I used to because I do most of the testing now lol.

You should conduct seminars...plenty of Metrosexual type guys could use some of your advice. Might keep 'em from going after other guys! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

deedoubleyou

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You should conduct seminars...plenty of Metrosexual type guys could use some of your advice. Might keep 'em from going after other guys! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I thought about it lol. I do a little counseling with it with some friends who have really bad luck. One friend in particular has gone from the guy who sat in the corner looking down until someone talked to him, to a social butterfly lol. He loves meeting women now and is making a lot of new friends and having some good dates in the process. He's looking for "the one" and having fun in the process. He's learned not to roll over and beg at the first women that pays 5 seconds of attention to him lol. He has raised his standards 10 notches and is getitng dates from women who wouldnt even give him the time of day before.

I learned game from a friend of mine from Iran. Persian women are the most beautiful, feminine women on the planet and they are very traditional about that. They will not even speak to a man who gives a sign that he's a beta. If you can crack them you can get women anywhere.
 

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I thought about it lol. I do a little counseling with it with some friends who have really bad luck. One friend in particular has gone from the guy who sat in the corner looking down until someone talked to him, to a social butterfly lol. He loves meeting women now and is making a lot of new friends and having some good dates in the process. He's looking for "the one" and having fun in the process. He's learned not to roll over and beg at the first women that pays 5 seconds of attention to him lol. He has raised his standards 10 notches and is getitng dates from women who wouldnt even give him the time of day before.

As I said, I'm glad you're teaching him how to gain the attention of Women instead of this
 

deedoubleyou

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As I said, I'm glad you're teaching him how to gain the attention of Women instead of this

I have no doubt that the environment that young guys are growing up in is leading to more and more of that all the time. It's sad.

In America, we need to bring back real men. Chivalry, loyalty, confidence, being a leader, and even game lol. These are things not being taught at all. If more of these young men knew this, they would be tested way less. Problem is, women know how many men especially younger ones are all fkd up so they test even harder anymore.
 

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Persian women are the most beautiful, feminine women on the planet

Back in 2007 we went on a sales seminar to Los Cabos (Mexico) aka Cabo San Lucas. While there we ran into some Ford corporate type chicks from U.A.E. (United Arab Emirates) Those Babes were some of the most beautiful Women I'd ever seen! OMG!!!!:scream:
 

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Problem is, women know how many men especially younger ones are all fkd up

I know you didn't want this thread to get political, but I'll see you on that and raise 'ya one too in that most Men today steeped in Leftist culture think there's no real differences between Men and Women!

Guys go into the Ladies restroom and suddenly declare themselves chicks! It's a jungle out there!
 

deedoubleyou

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Back in 2007 we went on a sales seminar to Los Cabos (Mexico) aka Cabo San Lucas. While there we ran into some Ford corporate type chicks from U.A.E. (United Arab Emirates) Those Babes were some of the most beautiful Women I'd ever seen! OMG!!!!:scream:

Yeah its pretty amazing lol. They really are that way, and they are veeeerrry feminine. Those girls take care of themselves more than any women I've ever seen in my life. I cut my game teeth on these women lol. I've had the honor of dating 3 very nice Persian women in my life. Getting past their families is what ends up being the real challenge for them. I would be married to one of them otherwise lol.
 

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I know you didn't want this thread to get political, but I'll see you on that and raise 'ya one too in that most Men today steeped in Leftist culture think there's no real differences between Men and Women!

Guys go into the Ladies restroom and suddenly declare themselves chicks! It's a jungle out there!

Leftist culture has become dangerous to a productive, sustainable society.
 

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I would carry her purse to the bar & get a beer ...i dont give two f!"ks what people think of me
Help her move & get a little vajj before the pizza came ...
Talk to her all she can do is say get away...im a social butterfly & can have a conversation with a rock & have no problem meeting women .
I travel a lot so im used to being the new guy in town & meeting new people i like it . If the hot ladies aint giving it up i will lower my standards . Getting laid is like getting dinner....some times you get a 10 ( your favorite dish) & sometimes ya have to settle for a bologna sandwich....both will do the job better than jacking off...
 

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I made this thread for a friend of mine to prove a point. He's been through the ringer with women, and can never land any really good ones despite the fact that he's a good dude. He has literally no game. He is getting good at meeting women, but he lands in the friend zone every time with his nice guy, approval-seeking behavior. He's convinced there is too much competition for the gorgeous women that he "really" wants so he finds himself lowering his standards as well. I'm trying to show him how there's really not much real competition, and honestly, I've found that the reeeealllly super hot beautiful women who most men wont even approach are the easiest to get dates with. But they wont go for a guy who wants to please her right away and fawn all over her. Women need to chase, period, Its in their DNA. Even if they say they dont, they still crave having to chase and work for a man.

The 4 questions I listed are some of the most common ways women test men in the beginning of a potential relationship. Mostly early in the dating game, and often times they will test you the first time you meet them or go out with them. Most of the time the better of a catch they really are, the harder they will test you. Most guys fail these super bad and end up having no idea why she lost interest or friend zoned him. What they really want is for you to pass those tests with a positive and friendly attitude. They "want" you to be able to say no, and do it in a way that shows respect. It shows her you have self confidence. When she insults you or disagree's with something you say, it actually means shes interested, but she wants to see how you handle yourself. If you show any un-comfort, or try to seek her approval or anything like that, you failed. They really dont want a guy who's willing to drop everything and do a bunch of favors for her, or agree with everything they say --in fact not at all. Then she has nothing to work for. No mystery, just boring. Also the more safe a women feels with you, the more feminine she can be. If she seems to show some turn on a dime attitude out of the blue early on in the dating process, its usually not that she's crazy or anything actually quite the opposite. She testing you and just wants to see how you handle yourself and how confident you are. The jealousy test is another very common test most men fail.

atlkvb, you are obviously a good dude with a good heart, but most women would not see you as much of a challenge to them lol, and are more likely to put you in the friend zone.

Dvldog 4WVU's attitude would land more ladies.....
*** women who test me. I am not their lab rat. If they dont like me they can kick rocks.
 

deedoubleyou

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*** women who test me. I am not their lab rat. If they dont like me they can kick rocks.

Honestly, that attitude would get you more of them than if you bent over backwards for them and its not even close. Its indifference that makes the difference.
 

deedoubleyou

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I would carry her purse to the bar & get a beer ...i dont give two f!"ks what people think of me
Help her move & get a little vajj before the pizza came ...
Talk to her all she can do is say get away...im a social butterfly & can have a conversation with a rock & have no problem meeting women .
I travel a lot so im used to being the new guy in town & meeting new people i like it . If the hot ladies aint giving it up i will lower my standards . Getting laid is like getting dinner....some times you get a 10 ( your favorite dish) & sometimes ya have to settle for a bologna sandwich....both will do the job better than jacking off...

You can leave with the hottest single woman at the bar every time if you really want to. Its easier than ppl think. The ultra super hot babes are the most lonely. They struggle finding a man who can be normal around them. They crave a guy who can stand up to her and say NO, among other things. Crave it. They literally want to chase you. Its encoded in their DNA. Putting them on a pedestal is doing the same thing every single guy always does to them. Thy literally crave an easy going, confident guy who can be himself around her, and not be scared to state his intent, which is very important when talking to women.

I've been blessed to have dated some ultra-gorgeous women, including a few who were taller than me, and one thing I will say is that the really hot super model types are usually nothing like you expect them to be behind the social setting. At home. It would be surprising to most people. They are iusually pretty insecure, and pretty lonely. Often they find it hard to connect to ppl because everyone treats them as if they are some special commodity. The next time you see one, go look her in the eyes, ask her name and wait to see if she asks yours. If she does, talk to her. Make her laugh, make her talk. Ask open-ended questions like if you had a billion dollars, what would you do, etc. Dont ask her where she's from, guess where you think she may be from. If you get it right, she is going to want to know how this mysterious guy knew that. If you get it wrong, she's going to want to know why this myserious guy thought that... If you just ask where she's from, blah. Boring. Get her involved and let her talk at least 70% of the time. Reveal very little about yourself. Keep your answers short and vague. Dont brag or virtue signal. Then, ask for her number and tell her you want to call her and ask her out on a date. You'll get it.
 
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deedoubleyou

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Come on lines are the hardest lol. I found it best to just be honest. If you think her eyes are gorgeous, tell her. If you think she has a really unique look about her, tell her. If you flat out just think she's gorgeous, tell her. Its best to state your intent right away, meaning establish your attraction and avoid being friended. The last women I talked to was the other day at the grocery store. She was behind me in line and when I looked at her, she made eye contact and smiled so I said hi to her, and when she said hi I noticed she had very broken English and that piqued my interest even more lol. So I asked her name, found out she is from the Ukraine, and I told her I thought she was beautiful and interesting to me, and I would like to learn more about her. I asked if I could call her and ask her out. She was taken back and flattered and so was the lady standing behind her. We are going out for coffee Tuesday.
 

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Come on lines are the hardest lol. I found it best to just be honest. If you think her eyes are gorgeous, tell her. If you think she has a really unique look about her, tell her. If you flat out just think she's gorgeous, tell her. Its best to state your intent right away, meaning establish your attraction and avoid being friended. The last women I talked to was the other day at the grocery store. She was behind me in line and when I looked at her, she made eye contact and smiled so I said hi to her, and when she said hi I noticed she had very broken English and that piqued my interest even more lol. So I asked her name, found out she is from the Ukraine, and I told her I thought she was beautiful and interesting to me, and I would like to learn more about her. I asked if I could call her and ask her out. She was taken back and flattered and so was the lady standing behind her. We are going out for coffee Tuesday.
Bad idea to tell a girl she is unique. Just trust me here.
 

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Come on lines are the hardest lol. I found it best to just be honest. If you think her eyes are gorgeous, tell her. If you think she has a really unique look about her, tell her. If you flat out just think she's gorgeous, tell her. Its best to state your intent right away, meaning establish your attraction and avoid being friended. The last women I talked to was the other day at the grocery store. She was behind me in line and when I looked at her, she made eye contact and smiled so I said hi to her, and when she said hi I noticed she had very broken English and that piqued my interest even more lol. So I asked her name, found out she is from the Ukraine, and I told her I thought she was beautiful and interesting to me, and I would like to learn more about her. I asked if I could call her and ask her out. She was taken back and flattered and so was the lady standing behind her. We are going out for coffee Tuesday.
Im not intimidated by much, i will talk to any lady & im pretty much honest about what im after ....
 

deedoubleyou

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Im not intimidated by much, i will talk to any lady & im pretty much honest about what im after ....

That is the way to do it. Confidence and being honest. It really is the best way. I have no problem with it either. I used to suck at it when I was younger though bad.
 

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There is confidence in honesty.

There IS confidence in honesty, and honesty is the cornerstone of being a legit dude imo. I always felt like, if its sex you really want and you just want to hook up with girls, everyone is way better of if you be sure to let them know that you are not looking for a relationship. You're just dating around, having fun. Women respect a man who can kindly state his intent honestly and own it. If they are into that you'll know it. No need to be breaking hearts. This whole thing is about being confident and respectful. In fact, one of the small things I would always tell people, if you're talking to a women you're interested in, dont ever bad mouth people, ever. Even if she does or others in a group are. Be the man, and stand up for what is good. Take up for the person being bad mouthed. Side with them but of course in a kind and disarming way. This will build trust and make you way more mysterious to women because they arent used to a good man willing to be a leader even if it risks turning people off or not going with the norm. You want to stand out, and in this day and age, just being a freakin good man and having your own opinions will do it often times.
 
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There IS confidence in honesty, and honesty is the cornerstone of being a legit dude imo. I always felt like, if its sex you really want and you just want to hook up with girls, everyone is way better of if you be sure to let them know that you are not looking for a relationship. You're just dating around, having fun. Women respect a man who can kindly state his intent honestly and own it. If they are into that you'll know it. No need to be breaking hearts. This whole thing is about being confident and respectful. In fact, one of the small things I would always tell people, if you're talking to a women you're interested in, dont ever bad mouth people, ever. Even if she does or others in a group are. Be the man, and stand up for what is good. Take up for the person being bad mouthed. Side with them but of course in a kind and disarming way. This will build trust and make you way more mysterious to women because they arent used to a good man willing to be a leader even if it risks turning people off or not going with the norm. You want to stand out, and in this day and age, just being a freakin good man and having your own opinions will do it often times.

This is not bad advice for Life in general, not just trying to get inside some panties. Let me ask you, a guy who is upfront about his sexual desires isn't called a *****, or a slut, or a tramp, or a nymphomaniac is he? Maybe a Gigolo or a playah, but those are terms of endearment for Males correct?

OK...so why don't we allow our women to be as upfront about their raw sexual desires? A chick telling a guy all she wants to do is screw him is immediately considered a ***** or a slut right? Why is that?
 

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No. But I’d bet it would work, esp when delivered ensconced in my unicorn mystique
You keep saying that and all i can picture is Ron Burgandy with a hard on. Come to think of it, that sounds like an amazing evening out. Pop a viagra and just walk around the bar with a throbbing hardon and pretending like you have no idea.
 

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This is not bad advice for Life in general, not just trying to get inside some panties. Let me ask you, a guy who is upfront about his sexual desires isn't called a *****, or a slut, or a tramp, or a nymphomaniac is he? Maybe a Gigolo or a playah, but those are terms of endearment for Males correct?

OK...so why don't we allow our women to be as upfront about their raw sexual desires? A chick telling a guy all she wants to do is screw him is immediately considered a ***** or a slut right? Why is that?
A key that can unlock many locks is considered a "master key " a lock that can be opened buy any key is a " bad lock " . Who wants a lock that everyone can get in ? ...myself personally, i dont look done on women for being like me. ..
 

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A key that can unlock many locks is considered a "master key " a lock that can be opened buy any key is a " bad lock " . Who wants a lock that everyone can get in ? ...myself personally, i dont look done on women for being like me. ..

You probably don't but Society does my question is why?
 

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I made this thread for a friend of mine to prove a point. He's been through the ringer with women, and can never land any really good ones despite the fact that he's a good dude. He has literally no game. He is getting good at meeting women, but he lands in the friend zone every time with his nice guy, approval-seeking behavior. He's convinced there is too much competition for the gorgeous women that he "really" wants so he finds himself lowering his standards as well. I'm trying to show him how there's really not much real competition, and honestly, I've found that the reeeealllly super hot beautiful women who most men wont even approach are the easiest to get dates with. But they wont go for a guy who wants to please her right away and fawn all over her. Women need to chase, period, Its in their DNA. Even if they say they dont, they still crave having to chase and work for a man.

The 4 questions I listed are some of the most common ways women test men in the beginning of a potential relationship. Mostly early in the dating game, and often times they will test you the first time you meet them or go out with them. Most of the time the better of a catch they really are, the harder they will test you. Most guys fail these super bad and end up having no idea why she lost interest or friend zoned him. What they really want is for you to pass those tests with a positive and friendly attitude. They "want" you to be able to say no, and do it in a way that shows respect. It shows her you have self confidence. When she insults you or disagree's with something you say, it actually means shes interested, but she wants to see how you handle yourself. If you show any un-comfort, or try to seek her approval or anything like that, you failed. They really dont want a guy who's willing to drop everything and do a bunch of favors for her, or agree with everything they say --in fact not at all. Then she has nothing to work for. No mystery, just boring. Also the more safe a women feels with you, the more feminine she can be. If she seems to show some turn on a dime attitude out of the blue early on in the dating process, its usually not that she's crazy or anything actually quite the opposite. She testing you and just wants to see how you handle yourself and how confident you are. The jealousy test is another very common test most men fail.

atlkvb, you are obviously a good dude with a good heart, but most women would not see you as much of a challenge to them lol, and are more likely to put you in the friend zone.

Dvldog 4WVU's attitude would land more ladies.....

understatement on Atkvb
 

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Lets bring some balls back into this place lol. Politics will always be a **** show and a major creator of stress and hate. Lets talk about babes. Here are some fun questions... Women feel free to chime in on any responses this may get lol.

1. You're in a bar and a gorgeous woman comes up and talks to you. You guys are really hitting it off and it really seems like she pretty into you. She has to use the bathroom though, and although you wanted to go get another beer, she asks you to hold her purse for her while she's gone, and wait right there for her. What do you do?

2. You're on a first date with a women, and conversation is going really well, and she seems like a really nice person, but then just out of nowhere she insults you and starts acting standoffish. Maybe even calls you an *******, or asks if you're a player, or makes fun of your clothes or hairstyle, and it just came out of nowhere, like poof, she turns on a dime. What do you do?

3. You have been on maybe 2 dates, 3 at the most with a reeeeealllly beautiful and cool woman, and she texts you one day and needs some help. She's moving across town and needs you to help her, and it just so happens that she wants you to do it on a day when you were wanting to go get some new shoes. What do you do?

4. You just saw the women of your dreams. If you could paint a picture of the most beautiful women with all the features you like the best all wrapped into one, you just saw her and she is sitting at a table with 3 of her friends not far from where you're sitting. You look over at her and she looks at you, and you make eye contact and she smiles at you with a nice sweet smile. However, she hasnt got up from her table for any reason thus far, and you have to leave soon. What do you do?

Invest in a hooker, it's easier, cheaper, and not as annoying
 

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understatement on Atkvb

That's fine. I happen to think it's possible to be respectful and friendly with Women without trying to figure out how quickly you can get them in bed. I hope my daughters
meet guys who are similarly as respectful.
If you have daughters, I hope you think the same for them.
 
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@tjebarr or anyone else on the Left who wants to chime in on this... reading the thread it's interesting how a lot of you are applauding cheering and even contributing your formulas that help you in terms of how easy it is to get women in bed.

OK that's fine... I'm not some prude... I understand the nature of male female attraction is ultimately for sex. What I don't get however is if you are all as impressed with the techniques the OP is passing along, and also offering your own skills and advice for coitus, what exactly is it about Trump that upsets you all so much when it's obvious he's as good as or better at this than any of you?

Anyone?
 
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