Why why WHY
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If it was a QB draw, not likely Art would make it in. Maybe he just knew, "Protect the ball!" and pulled it down quickly when he felt any pressure. Art is a decent runner but he is not going to run anyone over or make guys miss in the open field.
Some of the dumbest $&#$& in all of sports are supposed longtime Rutgers alums and fans... WE WON THE GAME... not perfect but damn we play tough hard nosed football. BEAT PENN STATE...you should all hide your heads in the sand.
That’s the point. You don’t expect Sit to run so that’s why he called it there. Didn’t work but not a terrible call since their gameplan was to take away everything over 10 yards just like we did today. Both teams allows running and short passes by design.
DE beat a double team. When you think a OT and a TE have your back you don’t think you’re gonna get sacked in 1.5 Mississippi’s.
Just read thru the meltdown... my take...
Yes the 4th and 3 was silly.... bad decisions on 3rd and 4th... and GS could have countermanded that 4th.
Purdue had moved the ball on long fields and short fields.. that they march down the short field is not a surprise.
It is a minor miracle they did not score and left the ball at the 4 or wheever. So right there is 7 or 3 of those 9 points Nuts was so worried about.
Yes we called plays too tight down on our goal line and yes Nuts is right.. Young hasn't broke many tackles this year. He really needs to work on leg strength or something...
As for Sitkowski's 3rd down play.. it was a QB draw.. an interesting call. But lets look at 1st and 2nd downs.
On the previous set Langan had a tough run and hit and spun around for 6 yards for a first and goal. And on the next snap he is asked to run it again.. he lost 2. Clearly.. he was not ready... not recovered from the previous play. We went to to the well once too often (similar to Vedral the prior week in OT.. he was banged up running hard for the score and tie the previous possession.. and the injury he was out for today was probably already suffered when we failed to score in that final OT... someone missed something there..
Then, in this game, on 2nd down, we have the quite legal pick play that was wrongly flagged. We should have scored right then. Instead it is back to 2nd and goal from the 20. Sitkowski throws to Melton for 11.. 3rd and goal from the 9.
Yeah.. I think we should have had a fade route dialed up. Or run the pick play again since it was legal the first time.. dare them to flag it again. But we try the QB draw. But Gleeson had already made the TD play call.. and Langan had thrown that 5 yard TD pass.. and it got wrongly flagged.
I'm sorry.. but that's just football.. it was not the end of the world.. clearly.
BEAT THE BASTARDS next week.
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you guys are holding him to a different standard now. you can say, maybe, he has earned that distrust.. but if you watch him with an open mind you will see a pretty good QB these days. I counted 2 mistakes... a throw on a quick slant done automatically.. with defenders danger close... and later.. what was it.. I forget.. but other problems were play choice.. play design.. like when he has to turn away from the LOS for a fake handoff that wasn't much of a fake from the RB.. bad timing.. then he turns to LOS and was supposed to make instantaneous reads with a collapsing pocket? I'm sorry... no QB can do that.
He throws 2 TDs.. no INTS.. no Fumbles.. gets sacked.. what.. once? in a VICTORY as an underdog.. starting on short notice.. and guys are all over his ***. It ain't right.
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This is one of the more delusional and unreasonable posts I've read in a while. In less than one year, this staff has taken a dumpster full of trash, burning out of control, and Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Banged it into a Sherman tank, and you're whining because it's not an M1 Abrams yet.
Gleeson's coaching is almost certainly in line with Schiano's expectations. Schiano recruited him - he didn't settle for him. He's inclined to dial up unconventional plays that will give opportunities to provide an advantage. Some individual plays might not always work, or be the best choice in retrospect, but you're delusional if you think he's not up to getting us where Schiano wants us.
You should try enjoying the progress in Year 1, and stop confusing compulsive complaining with discerning insight.
GOR,
Not at all. I thought Art played pretty well today.
The whole mental clock in the pocket has been a problem throughout his career. That being said he probably has the best physical tools of all our QBs and I feel with another year of Gleeson working with him I think that he'll be the starter next year
Now I'm no Sit fan after his "vacation" last year but he looked pretty good early on.
You can see either Gleason or Schiano decided Sit was dangerously close to ints multiple times and they lost faith in his passing and went to Langan - out of desperation, really. I thought we were dead meat when it became obvious Sit was a turnover waiting to happen. And I think the staff was pleasantly surprised how well we moved the ball with Langan. Maybe even shocked.
I heard Purdue ran 4 plays in the 4th quarter - not sure if true but that is crazy time of possession domination.
No way the staff was expecting that from Langan.
Amazing, really.
I heard Purdue ran 4 plays in the 4th quarter - not sure if true but that is crazy time of possession domination.
No way the staff was expecting that from Langan.
Amazing, really.
If only he could do better than the most improved offense in the country, then we’d have something.
I wonder if he’s in the doghouse with his wife. Mine would be filing for divorce. Say what you want, he’s no Gary Waters!
I don’t think Langan into their guts works the way it did unless one of their defensive and whole team leaders is ejected the way he was for targeting. So, to be that specifically and appropriately reactive with his play calling (while his wife is getting ready to push out a little human) gets 5 stars from me.
The knee jerk emotionality here from some is entertaining though.
I don’t think he was talking to you and that one comment. A couple of guys hate him and trash him even when he doesn’t play so they look for reasons when he does play. Loserville.
He started off great with the 2 TD’s. As I said the DE who sacked him for the safety was on the double team that got beat. Gleeson was not happy with something he did when he came off after one series. I think Art’s problems started with Barnes #55. He was stuffing the run and making plays literally sideline to sideline that would have been nice gains with most other guys his size playing the Mike. He also stepped in front of a few slant passes and I think rattled Art a little. He was clearly in our playbook. Schiano said when he got ejected his thought was let’s pound the ball. Great decision because the Purdue Offense moved the ball well on us. We were tough in the Red Zone and had the one pick but keeping them off the field helped the D a lot.
Vedral had a great game against Michigan and if he can play he deserves the start but we are solid in that position. Our Offense can score and that is without Spring and Summer reps.
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I’ve learned if every play doesn’t result in a first down and every drive in a score there will be bitching on this board
What is low IQ is your response. You have no clue how great Gleason has been in this turnaround.
I know this string was started when we were losing, but geez.
Go review the stats of how many tackles for a loss Purdue had the whole game. It was like 5 or 6. That includes 3 in the victory formation and another on the one and only time Langan was stopped when we were creaming the ball down their throats at the end of the game.
That safety was the only sack of the game. The timing was terrible, but to second guess the play calling there is unfair. Gleeson didn’t want to go with Langan in that situation because they would’ve known for sure we were running. The realistic goal there with the lead was to play it safe and give the defense a rest before punting it out of the end zone. The OL broke down (pretty much the only time in the game) and they got through and nailed Sit.
Go review the stats of how many tackles for a loss Purdue had the whole game. It was like 5 or 6. That includes 3 in the victory formation and another on the one and only time Langan was stopped when we were creaming the ball down their throats at the end of the game.
That safety was the only sack of the game. The timing was terrible, but to second guess the play calling there is unfair. Gleeson didn’t want to go with Langan in that situation because they would’ve known for sure we were running. The realistic goal there with the lead was to play it safe and give the defense a rest before punting it out of the end zone. The OL broke down (pretty much the only time in the game) and they got through and nailed Sit.
Run defense was their weakness going into the game. He should have exploited it earlier.