I would absolutely love for Oscar to make billions of dollars. Rooting for him harder than anyone to do just that. But I'm also a UK fan and if his draft stock being low brings him back to Kentucky another year, so be it. I'm a UK fan first. I'm not rooting for him to not make money. I hope he does. Ultimately it will be up to him to get there and do it and I hope he does. But I don't know when this thing happened where it's not okay to hope guys play here more than one year.
Why is Oscar's draft stock so low?
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Good comment but Hayes belonged in a freakshow. The human little engine that could. Expecting this of Oscar is a little much, but damn he’s trying.
Are you serious? Randle handled the ball like a guard with athleticism that allowed him to play above the rim. He also had a much better offensive game. I love Oscar as much as anyone and he is becoming my favorite player to play here in years but he does one thing int he NBA at a high level and that's rebound. I hope he makes it but comparing him to Randle is crazy.
Makes you wonder if these people are actually watching the games. It's really a terrible comparison.
I’ve seen hm mid second round… IMO if he comes back for another year and shows a mid game, top 15.
My prediction is Oscar will start to appear on the mock draft boards immediately after the season ends. We’ve seen that happen many times before, where the January mock drafts lag behind with a player because they haven’t yet been properly updated to account for his in-season performance.
A good example I remember was Victor Oladipo back in 2013. People were baffled why he was still listed as a late second rounder throughout that season, and posters here insisted he would not be a first rounder for that reason. But, after that season ended, when the mock drafters got their updated feedback from the scouts, he suddenly soared up to the top of the boards and was taken with the 2nd overall pick.
I think we’ll also see a post-season adjustment with Oscar (although not as dramatic). He’ll get drafted …I’m guessin somewhere around the early 2nd round …and be on an NBA roster next year.
A good example I remember was Victor Oladipo back in 2013. People were baffled why he was still listed as a late second rounder throughout that season, and posters here insisted he would not be a first rounder for that reason. But, after that season ended, when the mock drafters got their updated feedback from the scouts, he suddenly soared up to the top of the boards and was taken with the 2nd overall pick.
I think we’ll also see a post-season adjustment with Oscar (although not as dramatic). He’ll get drafted …I’m guessin somewhere around the early 2nd round …and be on an NBA roster next year.
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We can agree to disagree.
Maybe we have a different definition of what a fluid athlete is. Oscar is fundamental, but not fluid.
Love the kid and we are very lucky to have him! I will not bet against him by any means.
Oscar struggles to score against taller, longer players. Every NBA team will have taller, longer players. He will be severely offensively limited at the NBA level, both because of this and because even if he can hit jump shots he has a VERY slow release and NBA defenses will rotate to defend that.
Pick and roll is a staple of NBA offense, and NBA bigs MUST be able to defend pick and roll with NBA guards. Those who can't, get played off the court. There are going to be legit questions how Oscar can defend the pick and roll with NBA guards and more mobile NBA bigs.
He may get drafted 2nd round, he may make a roster and be a reserve player, but he's just not a high demand NBA guy.
Pick and roll is a staple of NBA offense, and NBA bigs MUST be able to defend pick and roll with NBA guards. Those who can't, get played off the court. There are going to be legit questions how Oscar can defend the pick and roll with NBA guards and more mobile NBA bigs.
He may get drafted 2nd round, he may make a roster and be a reserve player, but he's just not a high demand NBA guy.
This. He's a nice athlete but lacks that explosive twitch. Also you can tell he isn't very flexible at all, which is something this training staff should've worked on. Maybe they did, but if so they need a new approach because it isn't working
He can’t guard the PnR. But…I strong suspect he will make his way into the league as an undrafted FA. Doesn’t really matter bc the guy will make tons of money playing pro ball somewhere for a long time. NBA isn’t all anymore, you can make money in other leagues tax and expense free while getting a starring role and sometimes make even more than you would at then end of an NBA bench.
He's a 6'9" center that can't really jump high. He will play in the NBA, but I doubt he's ever going to be a 1st rounder.
Of course Cal would love it if Oscar could make NIL money, WTF does that have to do with what I said.
However, you know what Cal enjoys more than guys making NIL money? Getting dudes to the next level.
He either loves seeing guys leave early, or he totally sucks at retaining players.
Not a lot of people are spending time updating mock drafts yet.. especially when it comes to the 2nd round. People only started hearing Oscar's name the last few weeks.
Assuming Oscar keeps playing this way he'll wind up in the 2nd round when people start updating these in March and April.
Assuming Oscar keeps playing this way he'll wind up in the 2nd round when people start updating these in March and April.
The game has changed a lot since Chuck retired - and yeah, I know it has only been like 7 or 8 years, but teams are hoisting like 50% more threes than they were in the mid 2010s.
Comparisons to guys like Oakley and Rodman are not relevant. They played an eternity ago as it pertains to the current NBA style of play.
Hey Jeff, keep bypassing the first 5/6 of my post. Once again "I think" would serve you a lot better.
"I think" Cal enjoys getting dudes to the next level more than guys making NIL money. (You have zero idea what Cal enjoys more).
You said Cal should try harder to get a law changed to get Oscar NIL money (which if he did, you'd probably be complaining Cal should be focusing on winning ball games and not be focused on a players first program), that's WTF it has to do with what you said.
The guy is a rebounding machine. And this season he's actually shown an ability to hit that outside shot consistently.
I don't watch NBA very much but I have to imagine that's at least valued somewhere.
I don't watch NBA very much but I have to imagine that's at least valued somewhere.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait… .you talked about me not paying attention to some of your garbage post, then you accused me of asking Cal to change an immigration law. Where did you see me say anything like that?
No, I said "find a way to get him paid". There is a way, there's always a way.
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up... You're missing the original quote I was replying to (I've reposted it again for you).
You speak in absolutes, it's never just your opinion. "I think" that's a bad idea.
How should Cal work his *** off to get Oscar paid? Because currently it's a law impeding that possibility.
Oscar will make a lot of money playing bball as a profession. I believe some of that will be from the NBA. If that doesn't stick he will have a ton of opportunities over seas. He speaks multiple languages. Is a very intelligent young man who will be coveted by the foreign leagues.
High floor, low ceiling, generally a below the rim big, a 4/5 tweener - not big enough to be a regular at the 5 (especially being a below the rim player) but doesn't have the skills to play the 4.
He'll be drafted in the last 10 of the first round IMO.
See, you're misinterpreting my quote, where in there did I say anything about breaking immigration laws? Nice reach elastic man.
Also, the reason I don't say "I think", is because I know what I'm seeing. I'll say "I think" when… .I think my opinion might, or might not be right.
Where in there did I say anything about breaking immigration laws? You making stuff up, big dawg. Again I ask, how should Cal be working his *** off to get Oscar paid? Care to answer?
Also, says a lot you don't use the words "I think" or the like... Because apparently you view your opinion as fact.
I think Oscar is a sure fire 1st round pick....probably in the 20ish area. I think he projects as a power forward (in the traditional sense), and he has that one incredible skill that will keep him in the league for a long time. He also shoots FT's well, which is a good predictor for guys who can develop their shooting. He also leads the team in steals....that's pretty rare for a big guy. Some smart GM will snap him up....in some ways he reminds me of Bam who was undervalued coming out of college.
My favorite clowns are those who don't watch the NBA yet make a call on who is a potential NBA player.
I'd throw my house on this if you want to bet. Oscar is not a first rounder. He could average 40 rebounds for the rest of the year and not get taken in the first round. If he reminds you of Bam, you need to start watching hockey because your knowledge of basketball is trash.
I agree with the other guy Oscar will be drafted, and I think could go late 1st round. If there are no difference-makers left a playoff contender who wants a guy that can give their shooters 4-5 extra 3pt shots a game will take him.
But the real possibility that he doesn’t get drafted leads to a trivia question. Has the NPOY ever not return to college and not be drafted? Or not been drafted 1st round. I do think a 1st team AA has had that happen McCaffrey who shared SEC POY with Mash).
And then another question, if he weren’t drafted, could he return? Although I have no doubt he could get a contract from some team.
Go to post #59. You said "You said Cal should try harder to get a law changed to get Oscar NIL money". Do you understand what law(s) he would be changing? Immigration laws.
However, I never said anything of the sort. I simply said Cal should do everything he can to get Oscar paid, that doesn't mean I want him to change or break laws, you put those words in my mouth.
And yes, I do think very highly of my opinions, who on this board doesn't?
You're right. I did say that. Had a few bourbons last night. However, you first said Cal should be working his *** off to get Oscar paid here at UK, as if you know he isn't doing that. What should he be doing that he isn't?
Actually his numbers in college are way better than Bam. Just tell me how much you want to lose.
Yeah, I had 4 pours of black label 10yr Basil last night myself.
Yeah, maybe someone at UK is working on it, but it is Cal's MO to get players to the next level as fast as possible, but he has a golden opportunity to return an utterly incredible college basketball player and he probably won't do it. I'll he shocked if it’s even on the table in Cal's mind and that sucks.
But Bam was several years younger than Oscar when he was here. That goes a looong way toward explaining why they were so differently regarded as pro prospects.
Yep, the 18-year-old version of Bam was less productive than this 22-year-old version of Oscar. But could you imagine what the current grown man version of Bam could do against college competition?
Bam was drafted upon a projection of the vastly better player scouts expected him to become in the future (and they were right). Oscar doesn’t have the same rosy “potential” outlook. What you see tends to be all you get with players his age with his skill limitations.
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