I was never worried in the game.
Why does IU suck so much
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I was never worried in the game.
Comes down to coaching decisions. They have had more Gillespies than Cals. UK did a solid job more times than not in our history getting and keeping good coaches to continue the tradition and keep up with the times.
There's a lot of truth to this. IU has more wins than any other Big 10 team, but they're 11th overall, and they actually have a worse winning % than Purdue and Illinois.
I think the main problem for IU is a combination of location, and the fact that they never nationalized their recruiting in any effective way. Bob Knight did not like recruiting, at all, but for the 1st 20 or so years of his IU tenure, when college basketball was much more regional than it is now, he could always count on getting decent, sometimes great, talent from Indiana and a few surrounding states.
Once Knight's time passed, there simply wasn't a lot for IU to sell, because it was always more about the man than the program. Now they're in a situation where they even have trouble keeping local (mainly meaning Indianapolis) kids, because there are a bunch of other options not particularly far away.
IU has never had a figure like Joe B. Hall, or Rick Pitino. Or for other good examples, Larry Brown and Roy Williams at Kansas. Those guys all expanded the reach of Kentucky and Kansas, so that it became sort of an ingrained thing that elite players, from anywhere in the country, would consider Kentucky and Kansas elite programs (Dean Smith and Krzyzewski did the same thing at UNC and Duke). For IU, it was all about Knight, and since then it's been Knight's shadow.
Yes, and you just overwhelm me with all the facts you use to back that up.
I guess I could have said that the main problem is that their fanbase, like you, are in large part a bunch of meth-addled morons. But I refrained.
Probably opiods now, I guess. But IU fans are waaaay behind the times in so many ways, maybe it is still meth.
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Ahhh, the backhanded compliment with the “UK home game”.
Your fan base had every opportunity to come to that game. It’s not like it was Washington dude, lol. Bloomington isn’t far from Lexington. It isn’t as if the NCAA sits aside this huge amount of tickets for Kentucky and the read has to scrap.
What a dumbass. Another reason why Indiana has a horrible fan base
Three things are certain in life. Death, Taxes and IU sucking. It is going to happen
Iu fans only drive Tesla’s? The distance is too great from Bloomington to Atlanta? This is a very weak excuse.
Why is anyone wasting their time arguing with IU fans? Your time would be better served debating EKU or Western fans. At least they make the tourney on occasion.
Not sure why all the hate for Indiana. They have clearly been a top 3 program in central Indiana over the past 30 years. Not sure why Kentucky fans will not give them more respect.
Does it suck not getting talent and missing the tournament consistently?
A celebration for IU fans is when they lose a close game. But hey, they almost beat uk in the tournament, lol.
UK has as many NCAA tournament wins this decade as IU has going back to 1990.
And what's really funny about that is that UK won even more NCAA tournament games in the 90's than they have this decade (31). So there's a distinct possibility that, by the end of next season, UK ends up winning more tournament games in TWO separate decades than IU has in 30 years.
BTW, it's your, dipsh**.
And "we all care much"? Really?
You could say that Indiana is paying the price for allowing Bobby Knight to stay as coach as long as they did despite his brutish, bullying behavior. No one at the University ever stopped him despite decades of abhorrent incidents.
The real answer lies in the turbulence caused by Knight's departure. He badmouthed the university, pushing away stars like Sean May. That led to worse recruiting (Indiana had already suffered before Knight left) and poor coaching hires at a time when the coach became more and more important in the decision making process of high school starts and the school became far less important. Indiana will probably not return to its former glory for a long time.
The real answer lies in the turbulence caused by Knight's departure. He badmouthed the university, pushing away stars like Sean May. That led to worse recruiting (Indiana had already suffered before Knight left) and poor coaching hires at a time when the coach became more and more important in the decision making process of high school starts and the school became far less important. Indiana will probably not return to its former glory for a long time.
You're from Indiana. You probably shouldn't be talking basketball.
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You guys last won a title when I was 7 years old. I'm pushing 40.
I'd probably just shut my damn mouth if I were you. UK has very literally accomplished more in 9 years under Cal than your has been program has since 1988. (UK: 1 NC, 1 runner-up, 4 final fours; 6 Elite 8s from 2009-2018; IU: 0 NCs, 1 runner-up, 2 Final Fours; 3 elite 8s in the last 30 years)
You're a relic and nothing more. You losers - the alleged B1G blueblood - stormed the court after beating ... Minneosta. Blueblood status revoked. That's weak AF.
And, finally, the only difference between the states is a river. Shove the superiority card up your ***.
Do you mean top 15 in the Big Ten? Because the IUsetobees lost to 14th seeded Rutgers in the conference tournament this year, so that's a realistic prediction.
I actually used to work with a blowhard Indiana fan like this guy (sorry for the redundancy of Bloward Indiana fan) back in the mid-1990s. His theory was that IU had done just as much on the court as UK, but had "done it the right way."
Well I heard less and less from that guy as Kentucky won three more championships, went to eight Final Fours and won numerous conference tournaments while Indiana won - basically nothing. Then of course the cheaters got busted and put on probation in the 2000s. Last time I saw the guy he had nothing to say. What could he? Only a complete fool could deny a quarter century of losing and cheating.
They had a monster team under Sampson (around the end of Tubby's tenure) but that was based on cheating.
I forgot about that. Lol remember Mike Davis slapping his head and getting a T? Too funny.
I thought Archie Miller was a good hire at the time, but man, he's like Gillispie without the booze.
And that was a fluke. I still have no idea how Mike Davis pulled that off. But credit due...
Your first two are hypotheticals. The 3rd applies to this year's UK team as well. It happens to all teams.
Again, his point is just crunching numbers. Just math, no real opinion applied.
Is this a joke? Indiana JV all-stars would beat Kentucky High School all-stars. Which NBA franchise is in Kentucky? The only reason basketball is even relevant in Kentucky is bc of UK and UK was going through some pretty mediocre seasons at the end of Tubby’s tenure and then Gillespie. You all decided to sell your souls by climbing into bed with a proven cheater that could give two sh*ts about the university. He says so every time I see him on ESPN doing self-promotion. Kentucky will go through mediocrity. You won’t be terrible, but it won’t be like it is now.
Cal will jump ship to the NBA in an attempt to avoid NCAA violations or the FBI. It’ll be history repeating itself.
This quality of response is exactly what I’d anticipate from your fan base! Actually I shouldn’t say that bc some of your fans know what they’re talking about. With that said, you fall into the other category. The category that doesn’t know much about basketball. Your knowledge of basketball runs to the extent of knowing how many stars a recruit has next to his name and that your team needs to score more points than the opposition. Congrats to you my friend!
Your ignorant, envious post didn’t deserve more. And what do you cretins know about basketball beyond candy striped warm ups, three decades of irrelevance, and the taste of Bob Knight’s ***?
Nothing.
Nothing.
And our basketball knowledge recognizes that your program has been irrelevant since the early 90s.
I debate on which fan base is more dumb; Indiana or U6. It’s always tough to choose.
This response is case in point. Has nothing to do with knowing anything about basketball itself. Everyone is dumber for having read your post. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
Yeah I guess I should have specified that IU fans shouldn't talk about basketball. I was taking a shot at the sixth best basketball team in the state of Indiana. I mean, you guys did get blown out by Indiana State and Fort Wayne so you're sixth at best. At least you're not the worst. Congrats on the exhibition win over DII University of Indianapolis. Most people in this country don't give a rat's *** about high school basketball. I don't blame you for caring more about high school basketball than IU. If I was an IU fan, I probably would too.
I think it's funny that an IU fan would bring up mediocrity and cheating to anybody. Kelvin Sampson was your coach not too long ago and got busted cheating there. Did you forget? As for mediocrity, UK has had a few years of it but it's been far and in between. It's hard to be the all time wins leader with a lot of mediocrity. Heck even Tubby was 6-2 vs IU and possibly the worst coach in UK history, Gillispie, went 1-1. I guess you guys are trying to go from horrible to mediocre. Good luck! I mean, IU hasn't won a title since the Reagan administration, so does that even qualify as mediocre?
As for Cal, if you have proof that he has cheated, you need to turn that information into the NCAA. He has been investigated twice and yet they haven't found anything he has done to cheat. IU fans sound like a broken record. "Cal will be busted and he will jump to the NBA!" It's been almost 10 years now and you guys are still saying the same crap from 2009. When Cal does eventually leave, UK will still be good. UK has won eight titles with five different coaches across five different decades. UK's success definitely hasn't been due to just Calipari.
With all that said, good luck with history finally repeating itself by IUsedtobe finally becoming relevant again after 31 years.
You’re right. I apologize. Pitino is the other coach that was actually worth a damn at Kentucky in the modern era and he was a cheat too. Also, a pimp. My bad man!
As far providing you with proof, how about every school Calapari has coached has been reprimanded by the NCAA. The problem is that the guy is such a scumbag that he knows how cover his a$$ so nothing lands on him; just the people below him. Cal was practically begging for the Knicks gig.
Also, his system has been working well for you guys as of late. Both Tom Crean and Bruce Webber say “hello.” Speaking of Crean, I can tell you that most of the IU fan base agrees with Kentucky fans that the program has been miss-managed, but if you all think Archie is on the same level as Crean then you don’t know **** about the x’s and o’s of basketball. Either that or you only watch UK games and spank it to Ashley Judd. Not sure which is better.
We’ve had a lot of buffoons post here trying to troll...and you are definitely one of the top. I have no doubt you love to suck on Bobby Knight’s teat.
Dude before you chime in here, please try to read (if you’re capable of it) what I chimed in about initially. As a state Indiana residence are more able to speak about basketball than Kentucky residents. It’s not just one university in Indiana and we actually produce talent unlike Kentucky. You all are on the UK bandwagon, don’t know anything about basketball itself and keep saying the same sh*t over and over.
Keep in mind also that if IU is so irrelevant than why do you all start a thread about IU. At it’s core, this thread demonstrates that very fact. I wasn’t even talking about IU in my initial response. It was simply in regards to a wildly idiotic comment about Indiana as a state.
I’ll say this in regards to Knight, he’s a better, more polarizing, coach than anyone you’re program has ever had. And that isn’t even debateable.
Lol, what the hell does this even mean you buffoon.
“Our coach is more polarizing!!!!”
Naw, he’s more of an *******, like you