Why are we not getting

[willievic]

Why are we not getting the best recruits, is a good question? Times have changed! When Cal was at Memphis, and then when he come to UK, other coaches did not believe you could win a National Championship with a bunch of Freshmen. That has changed! The big difference is, Cal wants his players to go to the NBA after one year, even if their not drafted in the First round. Other coaches keep their players if their not in the First round. If you will read Coach Cal's book, "It's All About The Players," you will understand. To Coach Cal, it's not about winning a Championship, as much as getting the player to the pros, after one year in college.
Think about this. If your a parent, and your child is torn between Duke and UK, where would you prefer he go? Even though I LOVE UK, I went there, my two children went there and I have one grand daughter who graduated from UK, and two grandsons who are Juniors at UK at the present time, most parents with the choice will send their kids to Duke, if it's on a BB scholarship.
The other thing that is affecting Cal's recruiting is, a lot of these kids realize their opportunity to get to the NBA is basically the same, regardless of where they go. Therefore, they want to go to a school where they are the BIG STUD, and the coach will put up with their game, even if he's not always a team player, and a little selfish. Think about it, in the past have you wondered why a certain player went to a school where you knew they were not going to be very good. He was all they had!
Unless Coach cal makes some changes, the game is leaving him, just as it did other coaches in the past, which a lot of you know, so I'm not naming them.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY

 

[BlueBomb]

Remember -- At Duke, you're set for life. Hard to recruit against that!

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Maybe because some of our fan base attacks the kids on social media after a loss LOL.

 

[GonzoCat90]

James Wiseman told me it was because Catpaw posters start the same thread fifty times a week to argue about the same things over and over.

 

[AGEE11]

Because our major sponsor (Nike) who sponsors most of these kids their whole life, pushes Duke WAY more than UK nowadays. We aren't the top dog for our shoe sponsor anymore and the results in recruiting are telling

Because we let our top recruiting guys (OA and Stickland) are replaced with a failed coach (Barbee) and the stats guy (Justus)

Just a couple off the top of my head

 

[UKWildcatT]

Yhere needs to be something...recruiting diffferently, change of culture (just because you come to Kentucky doesn’t mean you’re good enough to go pro early) and philosophy, but like others have posted, we ALL know dUKe is paying for recruits and helping them become eligible with the help of Nike and the NCAA. Can you imagine any school with those advantages?

 

[UKWildcatT]

Maybe because some of our fan base attacks the kids on social media after a loss LOL.

While I think it’s ridiculous for anyone to directly message a player, stop this nonsense. EVERY school/team has this

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

Maybe because some of our fan base attacks the kids on social media after a loss LOL.

already happened at dUke to their loss , not exactly unique to UK .

 

[LadyCaytIL]

You shouldnt need the best of the best recruits to be great in the NCAA. Up until this year... Duke had been struggling the past 3 years with the best recruits....

with the new rules that were put in place a few years.... its hampering us. its time to switch to a traditional style and mix some great freshmen with returning players.

 

[Poetax]

Remember -- At Duke, you're set for life. Hard to recruit against that!

Actually if the facts are true, the families are set before and AFTER a kid graduates, hard to beat that too.

 

[Poetax]

You shouldnt need the best of the best recruits to be great in the NCAA. Up until this year... Duke had been struggling the past 3 years with the best recruits....

with the new rules that were put in place a few years.... its hampering us. its time to switch to a traditional style and mix some great freshmen with returning players.

Well today we're more like that then ever before. To me it gets harder when a Top 5 kid says, its too crowded or I want to be the man only. Its tough right now but I really want to see what supposingly is the best coach in college basketball does this year with the top 3 players in the nation in the NCAA tourney.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Well today we're more like that then ever before. To me it gets harder when a Top 5 kid says, its too crowded or I want to be the man only. Its tough right now but I really want to see what supposingly is the best coach in college basketball does this year with the top 3 players in the nation in the NCAA tourney.

Gotta get more guys to come back for next year. Im just afraid we'll lose a ton of kids again

 

[Fresh Start]

Fox, Bam, Monk, Knox, and SGA all suck

 

[JoeBeeHall]

Has the ncaa been notified of the living arrangements for Zw's family ?

 

[UK_fan_41102]

Maybe because some of our fan base attacks the kids on social media after a loss LOL.

I guess they could always go to dUKe where that stuff never happens[eyeroll]. LINK

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Why are we not getting the best recruits, is a good question? Times have changed! When Cal was at Memphis, and then when he come to UK, other coaches did not believe you could win a National Championship with a bunch of Freshmen. That has changed! The big difference is, Cal wants his players to go to the NBA after one year, even if their not drafted in the First round. Other coaches keep their players if their not in the First round. If you will read Coach Cal's book, "It's All About The Players," you will understand. To Coach Cal, it's not about winning a Championship, as much as getting the player to the pros, after one year in college.
Think about this. If your a parent, and your child is torn between Duke and UK, where would you prefer he go? Even though I LOVE UK, I went there, my two children went there and I have one grand daughter who graduated from UK, and two grandsons who are Juniors at UK at the present time, most parents with the choice will send their kids to Duke, if it's on a BB scholarship.
The other thing that is affecting Cal's recruiting is, a lot of these kids realize their opportunity to get to the NBA is basically the same, regardless of where they go. Therefore, they want to go to a school where they are the BIG STUD, and the coach will put up with their game, even if he's not always a team player, and a little selfish. Think about it, in the past have you wondered why a certain player went to a school where you knew they were not going to be very good. He was all they had!
Unless Coach cal makes some changes, the game is leaving him, just as it did other coaches in the past, which a lot of you know, so I'm not naming them.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY

I don't agree, at all, with the notion that kids will get picked in the NBA draft regardless of where they go...the college decision means much more than you think.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Fox, Bam, Monk, Knox, and SGA all suck

If the goal is to win a title.... we need more than just those guys.. whether its more talent around them..... or a new offense or new defense... just something

 

[Poetax]

Gotta get more guys to come back for next year. Im just afraid we'll lose a ton of kids again

Unlike last year when injuries kept us so inconsistent, if this group can't get it together like other teams of Cal's, and they leave with an average season, I will be upset with that for sure.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

While I think it’s ridiculous for anyone to directly message a player, stop this nonsense. EVERY school/team has this

First off I wasn't being all that serious hence the LOL, but it doesn't make it right and it's a bad look. Just because everyone is doing it isn't a good excuse, we should be above that. Doing it on here is one thing, but there are lines you don't cross. We were giving dook hell about it and now we are doing it. Just saying everyone does it is half the problem.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

already happened at dUke to their loss , not exactly unique to UK .

Didn't we make fun of them for it? I know I did. I would like to think we are above some things.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Maybe because some of our fan base attacks the kids on social media after a loss LOL.

And no other fanbase does that. Crazy isn’t it?

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I guess they could always go to dUKe where that stuff never happens[eyeroll]. LINK

One more time. I wasn't being all that serious hence the LOL and that really doesn't come off as well as you might think. We bashed them over it, I know I did and now we are like so what it happens other places. We should be above that crap. I don't want to be lumped in with dook turds.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

And no other fanbase does that. Crazy isn’t it?

Does anyone read anything, but the last post LOL. I wasn't even being serious hence the LOL. But lets not forget we were giving dook crap about it not too long ago. I would like to be better than some scumbag programs, maybe some are ok with it.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Seriously though I think we are getting great recruits, but not the game changer types. Not sure why. With so much corruption who knows what goes on behind the scenes anymore.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Does anyone read anything, but the last post LOL. I wasn't even being serious hence the LOL. But lets not forget we were giving dook crap about it not too long ago. I would like to be better than some scumbag programs, maybe some are ok with it.

Sorry my sarcasm meter must be off today.

 

[playmorezeppelin_rivals181042]

Fox, Bam, Monk, Knox, and SGA all suck

So every season we have one or two players who are pretty good and the rest either have yet to reach their full potential or are just flat out bad at basketball. Then, the following season, we lose our superstars and the potential superstars, retain the bad players, and repeat.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

One more time. I wasn't being all that serious hence the LOL and that really doesn't come off as well as you might think. We bashed them over it, I know I did and now we are like so what it happens other places. We should be above that crap. I don't want to be lumped in with dook turds.

First of all it's hard to tell if someone's being serious or not on a message board, LOL or not. Secondly, telling people not to message these kids is like talking to a wall. If you have to tell a grown *** adult not to do it, then you've already lost the fight.

 

[Duke Bluu]

Think about this. If your a parent, and your child is torn between Duke and UK, where would you prefer he go? Even though I LOVE UK, I went there, my two children went there and I have one grand daughter who graduated from UK, and two grandsons who are Juniors at UK at the present time, most parents with the choice will send their kids to Duke, if it's on a BB scholarship.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY

Status is important in this country. We all know the Duke basketball players are not in the same league as the regular students. No need to pretend otherwise. But that just reaffirms the point. In this country, status is very important to most people whether they want to admit it or not. The "perception" attached to attending Duke is without a doubt something that I believe most parents want to be associated with. When a parent says that their child attends Duke, of course any casual basketball fan will be impressed, but someone who doesn't watch nor follow basketball and is a true academic will also know about Duke the school, in spite of the bball program.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

Has the ncaa been notified of the living arrangements for Zw's family ?

Yes they had to pre-approve it to make sure it was worthy of the Zion

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Yes they had to pre-approve it to make sure it was worthy of the Zion

Sounds like a NCAA credit card with the slogan, "What's in your wallet"?

 

[JoeBeeHall]

Sounds like a NCAA credit card with the slogan, "What's in your wallet"?

It is a housing issue not an athletic one.

 

[I bleed big blue]

Gotta get more guys to come back for next year. Im just afraid we'll lose a ton of kids again

If we somehow get some back. Wow lol. What a team we will have.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

If we somehow get some back. Wow lol. What a team we will have.

Didn’t we say wow what a team all off season? Hope next years cal and team come out swinging ... don’t think the fan base can take another slow start

 

[TomTraubertsBlues]

Has the ncaa been notified of the living arrangements for Zw's family ?

It's cute that you think they would care.

 

[Dward13]

Status is important in this country. We all know the Duke basketball players are not in the same league as the regular students. No need to pretend otherwise. But that just reaffirms the point. In this country, status is very important to most people whether they want to admit it or not. The "perception" attached to attending Duke is without a doubt something that I believe most parents want to be associated with. When a parent says that their child attends Duke, of course any casual basketball fan will be impressed, but someone who doesn't watch nor follow basketball and is a true academic will also know about Duke the school, in spite of the bball program.

I really think this is the biggest reason Bolden picked duke or UK. They sold him and his mother especially on the status thing. Said it then too.

 

[TomTraubertsBlues]

I really think this is the biggest reason Bolden picked duke or UK. They sold him and his mother especially on the status thing. Said it then too.

Ah, Bolden. Just wait until next year when he's a senior. He's really going to break out.

 

[Dward13]

Ah, Bolden. Just wait until next year when he's a senior. He's really going to break out.

I’m not sure we could have helped him. He is plodding. He’s Dakari Johnson without the motor or heart. The kid that went to Texas, Allen, ended up being way better.

 

[I bleed big blue]

Didn’t we say wow what a team all off season? Hope next years cal and team come out swinging ... don’t think the fan base can take another slow start

Tru. We are known for wait until next year talk type fanbase.

 

[fearthebluecat]

Why are we not getting the best recruits, is a good question? Times have changed! When Cal was at Memphis, and then when he come to UK, other coaches did not believe you could win a National Championship with a bunch of Freshmen. That has changed! The big difference is, Cal wants his players to go to the NBA after one year, even if their not drafted in the First round. Other coaches keep their players if their not in the First round. If you will read Coach Cal's book, "It's All About The Players," you will understand. To Coach Cal, it's not about winning a Championship, as much as getting the player to the pros, after one year in college.
Think about this. If your a parent, and your child is torn between Duke and UK, where would you prefer he go? Even though I LOVE UK, I went there, my two children went there and I have one grand daughter who graduated from UK, and two grandsons who are Juniors at UK at the present time, most parents with the choice will send their kids to Duke, if it's on a BB scholarship.
The other thing that is affecting Cal's recruiting is, a lot of these kids realize their opportunity to get to the NBA is basically the same, regardless of where they go. Therefore, they want to go to a school where they are the BIG STUD, and the coach will put up with their game, even if he's not always a team player, and a little selfish. Think about it, in the past have you wondered why a certain player went to a school where you knew they were not going to be very good. He was all they had!
Unless Coach cal makes some changes, the game is leaving him, just as it did other coaches in the past, which a lot of you know, so I'm not naming them.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY

Cause were not offering any money. Just draft rights.

 

[Delk4three]

One more time. I wasn't being all that serious hence the LOL and that really doesn't come off as well as you might think. We bashed them over it, I know I did and now we are like so what it happens other places. We should be above that crap. I don't want to be lumped in with dook turds.

I don't think we need to be worried about being lumped in with Duke this year....