I’d love for you to be right. I guess stranger things have happened. But not many.
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Scott Drew is absolutely a no go. I don’t think you understand how he’s viewed. Cal was viewed much in the same, however Cal had a huge upside. He was bringing in top 5 recruits at places that simply doesn’t happen.
Drew has already been caught up in scandal. He’s shady, very Pearl like, and has a terrible reputation. On top of that he’s not really been the type of winner that UK would go after.
Memphis made a pass at Drew. Arkansas might be a decent fit. Baylor makes sense. UK simply does not make sense. Do a poll, ask around. You’ll get a lot of reasons why.
You can’t reason with Calipari lovers. It’s like trying to see the time through a Kroger sack.
If we can’t get who we want and he’s performing at a good level, I wouldn’t object to this under certain conditions. Sometimes you have to take a chance, and if so, no one better than one of your own. And seeing how he was a player during our best run outside of Rupp, I think it would be exciting in some ways. If he actually won big and sustained great success, we’ve got our future wrapped up.
Wright, Stevens, Donovan, Few, Izzo would all not come to UK no matter how much money you give them. I also doubt Tony Bennet would either. I think the top tier of guys you could get would be Beard, Oats, Holtman, and someone like John Behlin. Also think that Travis Steele from Xavier might turn into a good hire depending how Xavier does the next couple of season and same with Eric Musselman.
Just don’t agree. They might be out of reach because of their circumstances, but not where you can rule them out so easily. Kentucky just paid a coach who’s won 1 title in 10 years 10 million per year and a lifetime deal. Cal is set to make hundreds of millions of dollars at Kentucky if he stayed through another 10 years. Stevens won’t come close to that number in Boston, Few and the rest won’t either. We don’t know these guys personally, so conventional wisdom is on our side. Money talks, and the UK job is second to nothing in college basketball.
I agree with the latter, but there’s a chance a few of those guys listen and consider it. This might be the only job they would.
You'd fire Cal and hire Mark Pope? You can't be serious. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
I would like to see a few more years out of Beard before making a move like that. He may very well be a good coach but he is also still relatively unproven. One run to the FF isn't enough for me to have him be a lock here.
I know the UK tradition is a little different but,
Great proven coaches dont usually replace Hall of Fame coaches.
Sure we would have to kick the tires with some top tier Coaches but it would be realistic to think we may have to have a 3 year bridge between great coaching hires.
Guys like Kenny Payne, Mark Pope, Andy Kennedy, Sean Woods, John Pelphrey, Mark Madson, Fred Hoiberg, Damon Stoudamire may be more "realistic type" of coaches to replace a Hall of Famer.
Remember who Memphis had to hire because nobody wanted to follow Cal there. Josh Pastner..
Great proven coaches dont usually replace Hall of Fame coaches.
Sure we would have to kick the tires with some top tier Coaches but it would be realistic to think we may have to have a 3 year bridge between great coaching hires.
Guys like Kenny Payne, Mark Pope, Andy Kennedy, Sean Woods, John Pelphrey, Mark Madson, Fred Hoiberg, Damon Stoudamire may be more "realistic type" of coaches to replace a Hall of Famer.
Remember who Memphis had to hire because nobody wanted to follow Cal there. Josh Pastner..
The problem we have IMO is you have guys like Donovan, Stevens, etc who you can go after and be confidant in their likely success.
After that it is a bunch of IMO unproven relatively young talent with Beard being the most proven...
Beard, Steele, Oats, Musselman (young in experience), Pope, Brannen, Holtmann (he was who people wanted last year btw and can't find his name with a ten foot pole now).
I would probably call Erik Spoelstra and or Frank Vogel. Getting a guy from the NBA wouldn't be a bad thing, they are proven and we could at least double their salary.
After that it is a bunch of IMO unproven relatively young talent with Beard being the most proven...
Beard, Steele, Oats, Musselman (young in experience), Pope, Brannen, Holtmann (he was who people wanted last year btw and can't find his name with a ten foot pole now).
I would probably call Erik Spoelstra and or Frank Vogel. Getting a guy from the NBA wouldn't be a bad thing, they are proven and we could at least double their salary.
Actually I think I would offer Spoelstra first. 50 years old, makes $3m a year. Proven winner for years. Works for Riley. Loves UK players. Go for it if it comes to that.
Lol, edit...if he earns the $120k bonus per WIN this is out of the picture. His salary is $3m but seeing multiple sites saying he gets a $120k bonus per win in regular and post season. If it is accurate he pocketed $10m last year.
Lol, edit...if he earns the $120k bonus per WIN this is out of the picture. His salary is $3m but seeing multiple sites saying he gets a $120k bonus per win in regular and post season. If it is accurate he pocketed $10m last year.
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Joe B Hall did alright for his first head coaching job.
Some of you amaze me on here. You really don’t know that Pitino came to UK from the Knicks?
Surprised Holtsman doesn’t get more buzz . I like the guy .
and maybe I’m hung over but what about adding the guy who was at Michigan , then the Cavs to our current staff and let him run the O .. he ran great sets at UM . Name ?
and maybe I’m hung over but what about adding the guy who was at Michigan , then the Cavs to our current staff and let him run the O .. he ran great sets at UM . Name ?
I can't belive that some of these fans actually believe in what they write on here want to talk about really having the blue blinders on!
IU and UCLA, where coaching careers go to die. They ain't UK.
Of course, if we keep up with this farm system bs, we won't be much better. We'll be a has-been program too.
Take a look at a couple things. There is a stark difference between Cal's first 5 years and his last 5. Two E8's in his last 5 years. The first 5 years is never going to happen again. Those transcendent players are no longer available and if they were (Zion), they aren't coming here. Cal can't do 09-15 without those types of players.
So, you need to ask yourself, do we continue with the farm system that tops us out at an occasional E8, or do we move on to a coach that cares about UK?
That's the problem cause he's too stubborn, to change. What worked okay then, doesn't work any longer. Might have something to do with bench warmers, that thought they'd had a real chance, to play.
Lexington crime ain’t breaking any damn records. My family lives there, I used to live there and I go there quite often, it, like any other city, has bad areas, but don't even try to act like it's freaking Gary, IN.
They might have higher crime than they did 10 years ago, but the population is much greater and it's still booming. Hilarious. Nice reach.
Remember, you said this team would be, at worst, a 5 seed. That gets more and more laughable to me with every passing day.
I think we had that under the tubster. Personally, I would like a happy medium ... a title every year and 1-2 draft picks.
I seem to recall someone saying once ... UK Basketball is the pinnacle. I wish i could remember who that was...
Wouldn't want Izzo or Donovan. But in all honesty, unless you personally know these guys, you can't say they wouldn't. You made a statement like you know for a fact they wouldn't, but you really don't know that.
I text a friend who knows a guy in Boston. That guy in Boston once knew a guy who did a remodeling job at Brad's next door neighbor.
My salary demands are as follow:
$500,000 = Will put a ncaa compliant team on the floor
$1.0 mil = 20 wins, ncaa tourney OR NIT championship
$1.75 mil = 25 wins, 1 win in tourney
$2.5 mil = 28 wins, sweet 16
$3.5 mil = 30 wins, elite 8
$5 mil = 33 wins, final 4
$7 mil = 35 wins, championship game
$10 mil = 38 wins, championship
*Note: NO increases for draft picks/former players' salaries
**Failure to meet both conditions results in a 25% forfeiture of salary
The "trouble waiting to happen" aspect doesn't concern me much. Calipari was "trouble waiting to happen" before he came here.
I know this might sound crazy, but even Bellarmine University has a good coach who is about to make division I status for his team... Whoever is being considered, it just does not make sense to let Calipari go. He's in Naismith HOF, He's won National Championship, He's made a lot of our players into NBA players, but.....he does get paid a lot. I guess there is not a positive correlation between salary and winning right now.