if Will Grier and offensive tackle Yodny Cajuste are projected as late first round picks. Would rather see a team than a bunch of folks hoping to cash in off the investment made in their Free Education by hard working citizens of WV.
What an effing contrarian. Is there anything you're okay with? Guess WV should just give up scholarship football.if Will Grier and offensive tackle Yodny Cajuste are projected as late first round picks. Would rather see a team than a bunch of folks hoping to cash in off the investment made in their Free Education by hard working citizens of WV.
I absolutely think that if a player sat out a CFP game voluntarily they should be financially punished..
if Will Grier and offensive tackle Yodny Cajuste are projected as late first round picks. Would rather see a team than a bunch of folks hoping to cash in off the investment made in their Free Education by hard working citizens of WV.
Schools decide whether to play a player in a game.
Why don't players have the freedom to decide whether to risk injury in bowl or pursue an NFL career.
Grier has more than fulfilled his obligation to WVU. I would love to see Grier and Sills light up the Syracuse defense. But this America. We all have freedom of choice in employment opportunities
Ever had millions of dollars, life-changing money, dangled in front of you? If you haven't, then I don't think you have the room to criticize their decisions, whatever they may be.
They can quit anytime for any reason, but universities should have recourse for the expense and damages they incur. These are not exploited children but budding adults who enter into agreements.
They can quit anytime for any reason, but universities should have recourse for the expense and damages they incur. These are not exploited children but budding adults who enter into agreements.
but they are exploited.
And just how exactly? Are you going to fine them? They don't get paid and they are not employees (according to the NCAA). So, what exactly would you do to them?
I'll ask again....what recourse? What are you going to do to them? You got it half right. They are not children, but they are exploited. You are naive if you think otherwise.
And what damages is WVU suffering from if they don't play? If you are going to claim these things, then you should be able to cite examples.
With the CFP at stake....merchandising alone would be millions.
Make them reimburse their last years scholarship money out of their NFL signing bonus. School would be dumb to not write that kind of stuff into their contract when they sign.
1. Has nothing to do with who plays (and by the way coaches decide , schools don't). It has to do with scholarships and the cost of an education which student athletes get free.
2. Grier's obiligation to WVU ends when the season ends. In this case once the bowl game is over.
3. Freedom of choice in employment opportunity has nothing to do with it. It is about scholarship obligation.
4. If folks feel that students have a right to decide when they will play then schools should dump students who don't perform on the athletic field.
5. Although most think you can have it both ways. You can't.
Then do away with scholarships and make them actually qualify. Everyone wins lol.
On 2nd thought this is a superb idea.
Give them a financial penalty for missing a single game, a SEVERE ONE. Then the NCAA and universities will be ON RECORD stating exactly how much value a player is worth in actual dollars, per game.
That would set an excellent precedent and be a wonderful tool during future battles with the NCAA over player compensation. It would be a thrill to have universities and the NCAA say on the record the formula they used to decide the financial penalty....that would he lovely.
Of course, wont happen because it is a bonehead idea.
A university has no authority to collect from a private citizens income, regardless of the source.
All you can do is dismiss them from the team.
Contracts handle that
Only if you made them an employee and provided an income.
Even then you can't take future income. It would just be a fixed number, and universal for everyone not...not just players who might get drafted. You cant scale it based on subjective worth.
But then for it to be a deterent it would need to be unrealistically high to offset a 1st Round Pick salary, and if they tried that it would never be agreed.
This is all stupid but for discussion, you'd probaly need to end all scholarships, then provide a true salary to cover income + tuition then players actually pay the tuition then they could just withhold the money if they failed to play.
Doesnt matter, cant happen and never will happen.
Or better yet, pay the kids and build in a penalty if they skip an “important” (IMO NY6 or CFP) bowl game voluntarily. Simply put, they have to pay back the entire years’ scholarship out of their signing bonus.
If they are good enough to skip, they will be getting one.
I can’t voluntarily walk out on my job and still get paid...there are penalties. Welcome to the world of being an adult.
Or you could make it so it would have to be reimbursed within 6 months of breaking the contract. Then it’s up to them to decide how they want to pay it back. If not, it gets rolled over into the “student loan” collection basket...which is even worse.
Student athletes should be just that...student athletes. Discussing fair compensation for a bunch of jocks who are supposedly going to school is stupid. Eliminate scholarships and the emphasis on each new 18 year star. Just a topic for the participation trophy set. Invest the state's money wasted in bloated coaches salaries, professional grade facilities and kids who can't string together a sentence into cancer research, low cost medical treatments, and genetics and actually help save lives. Really, in the end, as much as I love sports...they all are just a game.
Years ago the Pgh Pirates sued Dave Parker for breach of contract after his cocaine use came to light. The point being that players have a contractual obligation to their employer or, in this case, their school.
WVU could sue and would likely win the battle. However, they could lose the war because what recruit would want to play for a school that might sue them later on.
So if a player quits the team in the middle of the season, perhaps because his father died, or because he isnt playing, you think he owes the university a year of tuition money?
I assume you feel the way a student with an academic scholarship?
Lol you are nuts.
If you walk out of your job today, they stop paying you. They do not take your future income.
Besides, a years tution @ WVU is $25K, not likely to matter when you are looking at a 1st round salary.
Didnt Baker Mayfield get a $22 million sign on bonus?
This is incredibly stupid, and bitter - and jealous.
Try appropriate. Not all these guys are getting a 22mil bonus.
I get a sign on bonus. If I leave before my contract is up...I pay the prorated portion back. Is that easier to wrap your head around? You would be leaving a job before it’s completion where you were compensated based on completing that job (that scholarship doesn’t end in January....I guess it could, but that’s not the intent when that athlete signs.)
Bailing on your team before a CFP game would be screwing over your employer in a major way.
Again, don’t give a crap about lower tier bowls....however those big games could be million dollar deals for the school and its conference. I’m promoting paying the players for Christ’s sake!
There is something to be said for committing to something and completing that task. Coaches leave all the time, but the standard now is that they pay a buy out in order to leave...this is not different.
He is not an employee. He does not recieve a salary. He is not allowed to have any income tied to his standing as an athlete.
He is free to leave the team at any time, the penalty would be a loss of scholarship. This is very simple.
Do you even read? The student will be paid. They would be under contract! Are you understanding the words I am saying???
I absolutely think that if a player sat out a CFP game voluntarily they should be financially punished.
But punishing someone who doesn’t want to play in a crappy for **** 3rd tier bowl against an equally for **** 3rd tier opponent? GTFO
Let the underclassmen get some reps in a glorified exhibition game.
Do you even read? The student will be paid. They would be under contract! Are you understanding the words I am saying???
Make them reimburse their last years scholarship money out of their NFL signing bonus. School would be dumb to not write that kind of stuff into their contract when they sign.