Who guards Ayton?

CGblue

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Unless the NCAA believes there is more to this $100k/FBI stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if the word gets down to these refs to put Ayton in foul trouble. There are people that believe they already punished some teams that have been mentioned with that case. UL I can see not getting an invite, but USC not getting one when they finished second in the PAC 12 and the 9th place team getting in seems kinda suspicious. Then Arizona getting this potential matchup makes the conspiracy theories start seeming possible.

The NCAA doesn't do us any favors so I see this potential matchup as one where they get to eliminate one of the two for sure and the other possibly in the next game. Then they can have one of their least favorite coaches potentially out and not have a big vacating mess by the other getting very far if the allegations end up true.. Of course this is probably far fetched, but as corrupt as the NCAA is it wouldn't surprise me.
You'll get some ridicule on here for this, but not from me. None of that sounds too far-fetched for an outfit like the NCAA.
 

KyCatFan1

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You'll get some ridicule on here for this, but not from me. None of that sounds too far-fetched for an outfit like the NCAA.

It's just a crazy conspiracy theory. Probably not true, but definitely could be plausible. If Ayton is taken out of the game early I will start getting very suspicious with us rarely ever getting calls that send key players to the bench for the other team. Just look at how bad the foul situation was for us against UT and then only having one guy with more than 1 foul a little ways into the second half for them.
 

Blue Decade

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You'll get some ridicule on here for this, but not from me. None of that sounds too far-fetched for an outfit like the NCAA.
The NCAA is an organization founded and run by its member institutions, including UK.
 

Col. Angus

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I didn't watch the game and of course there is no defense in all star games, but Vanderbilt pretty much equaled him in the Jordan Brand game statistically.

And Trae Young didn't do anything yet goes out and scores 28 points and hands out 9 assists a game this season.

All-star games mean nothing. It's more about how that player is used on his college team. Ayton has proven just about all season long that you can't stop him. He's gonna get his 20 and 10. No one UK has will be able to guard him, at least one on one. There's gonna be a lot of double teams.
 
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kyjeff1

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Let’s win Thursday then worry about Ayton.
LOL, are we on the team? I know some of us think we're coaches, but we actually aren't in charge of coaching this team, we're merely fans.
This is a message board where we talk about matchup potentials.
Hell, I want to start talking about Virginia, they're the real problem.
 

kyjeff1

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Go at Ayton offensively and try to draw fouls, that’s another way
Exactly, make him play defense.

But the other thing is, Arizona is not a high scoring team. They are beating bad teams by 10-14 points and only scoring in the 70's.

They did score 93 against Oregon. ..but lost by 5.
They beat Oregon State by 10, barely beat NIT bound USC and "got by" Stanford at home by 8. These are teams that UK would absolutely crush.

Lastly, their defensive efficiency rating is 70. That's going to be their downfall Saturday night, if not Thilursday night.
 

kyjeff1

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And he's not at Ayton's level.
Schofield got his points from the outside. He hit a bunch if threes.
He got very little in the paint. UK defended the paint extremely well.
Does Ayton shoot 3's?
 
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kyjeff1

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Gotta get passed Davidson first! Look at how many 12-5 upset have there been in recent years.
Yeah, this isn't some damn fan message board, we need to be locked in on Davidson and worry about the next opponent later.
We should go find a message board to discuss.
 

kyjeff1

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Vanderbilt can't handle him.

Zone would be handy this game.
I think denying ball entry into the post is going to be the way to go, then double him if he gets it.
They weren't going to hit 10 threes on usus, they aren't a good outside shooting team.
Plus, yes they're big, but have they faced size like what UK has?
 
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kyjeff1

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Let's not worry about Arizona yet. There is a game before that. It is Davidson and if you know anything about sports, you never look past your opponent. No way in hell is Cal and the Team talking about Arizona. They are preparing for Davidson 1st...
You would have a point if we were actually on the team.
This is a discussion board.
 

Blue Decade

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With some corrupt individuals running things at the top.
There is corruption in many organizations. It is up to the member schools (including UK and the other SEC schools) to clean up whatever issues the NCAA has. You guys who complain and make all these excuses all the time need to understand that the NCAA has accomplished a lot of good things for its member schools, including UK. Do you actually understand the full history and all the functions of the NCAA? Would you rather have intercollegiate sports run by the TV networks? Now, there, we would have some real corruption. LOL! Let's just play the games and stop crying over spilled milk.
 
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Believe it or not, but I think Richards will be up to the task to play a decent game. I think he plays better against the big bangers than the finese bigs.
 

_ukcat

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If we get to Zona it will be which team does TV want to play UVa in next game. If it UK they let us play and not get 2 fouls on every inside UK player in 1st 8 min. of the game. If it Zona we will be in so much foul trouble it will be laughable at the calls that are made.....LOL
 

SuporChin

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This is the same type of talk that people had when Ohio State was put in the same bracket as Kentucky. Everyone thought there was no way to stop Sullinger. They didn't stop him (Sullinger definitely got his) but they did stop all the perimeter shooting, which was their greater strength. The same type of defense should be used if Kentucky were to play them on Saturday. Double team Ayton without fouling, but shut down any three point shooting.

Cal usually does a pretty good job on beating teams in the tournament who have an other worldly talented kid. He did it against OSU, UCLA, etc. I'm nervous, but I think the team will execute the plan Cal comes up.
 

katwest

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We have to beat Davidson first and if we do, the question is who guards Knox and Alexander for them, I don;t think they have anybody who can guard either one of them.
 

CatsIndy2010

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PJ Washington. He is probably best matched with Ayton.

And now is the time to remember that, our team could really benefit with keeping our hands up.

I dont mean this when guarding someone who just gets the ball either...Im saying all the time, keep your hands up, be active and ready to deflect and steal the ball. I also think it helps us stay out of foul trouble.
 

Tapemaster8

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Need to win the first game and get through it healthy. I wish we were closer to home so we would have more fans. I think this young team needs the fans as much as any team Cal has had since he has been here!
 

502 Wildcat

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Run a 4-1 zone and hope they miss threes. That's about the only way we shut down their bigs.

In all honesty, we can't stop their frontcourt. We just don't have the muscle. Our best bet is to not allow 2nd chance points and hope we are having a good shooting night. Just a bad matchup for us. We CAN do it but the stars will have to align.

And to be frank, it's not that they are better than us, but this is a tournament of matchups, and they are just a bad one for us.
 

502 Wildcat

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Schofield got his points from the outside. He hit a bunch if threes.
He got very little in the paint. UK defended the paint extremely well.
Does Ayton shoot 3's?

Not a ton, but he is a threat. We can't leave him open out there.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Play like we did Georgia. Trap Aynton every time. Go after him and get him some fouls as well.
 
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Exactly, make him play defense.

But the other thing is, Arizona is not a high scoring team. They are beating bad teams by 10-14 points and only scoring in the 70's.

They did score 93 against Oregon. ..but lost by 5.
They beat Oregon State by 10, barely beat NIT bound USC and "got by" Stanford at home by 8. These are teams that UK would absolutely crush.

Lastly, their defensive efficiency rating is 70. That's going to be their downfall Saturday night, if not Thilursday night.

Well Zona is clearly not all-world, but it's equally clear there's not a set of conference teams in any P5 conference the Cats would "crush".
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Zona has to be one of the hardest second round opponents I remember having in a long time. It will be like Knights team though if we beat Virginia we going all the way but won’t lose in the final four.
 

jkmann1

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Nobody in college basketball can guard him one-on-one, spare MAYBE:

- Bamba, who's probably too slow, but I've seen footage where Ayton more or less dominated Bamba in drills and scrimmages
- Bagley, quick enough but probably not strong enough
- Jaren Jackson Jr, I'm just throwing his name in here but he can't guard Ayton.

Nobody can straight up stop him. Our strength as a team is digging steals out of post-ups and creating tough driving lanes in the middle of the floor because of our length. That'd be the approach, I'd think. Difficult on the catch, harass him any time he thinks about dribbling. You'd expect some zone. I actually think our army of forwards and our two-headed average center could be enough to at least make his life difficult.

Arizona is good, but they're beatable. Anybody that's watched them this year knows as much.
 
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In ’96 we played against a dominant Tim Duncan and we frustrated him by double -teaming. We don’t have the great players of the ’96 team, but we have length as they did and the same style can be effective against Ayton.
 

jameslee32

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We have 10 fouls to give if we play them. Nick and Sasha.
 
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Guard him? Who can physically guard him on our team without getting a foul called on them every time? Attack his mind. Be so rough with him and a little over the edge to effect him mentally. Guarding him straight up, we can't afford anybody fouling out. Run run run and look for opportunities to get to his mind.

Really think Trier will be the one to do the most damage along with Alkins. The other 7 footer will just add to it some.
 

GonzoCat90

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Use our length to challenge the entry pass and make him catch it in spots he doesn't want it.

Make him make the 16 foot jumper over an outstretched hand.

Keep him off the offensive glass. I think that's where he hurts us. Trier and Alkins can get 20 too, so if one of those guys is rolling and Ayton is dominating the backboard, they're going to be incredibly efficient.
 

502 Wildcat

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The difference between UGA and Zona is they also have Kristic, another physical and serviceable 7 footer. We double team Ayton, Kristic has a career night.

I think putting pressure in the high-post, playing off the ball a little bit, making it has tough as possible getting into the lane....and then denying as many offensive boards as possible.....is the best shot we have.