where is addie deal

ObeseMuffins

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She played better yesterday. Faster decision making and on ball defense. She still doesn’t know how to defend a screen, however.
 

SimonaMeow

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Not everyone is comparing her to CC as you seem to suggest.

But I might mention Prince, from Nebraska, that came in last year less hyped at a similar position.
She didn't seem to have these struggles.

Explain how I'm wrong.
First, because you are cherry picking one example. Finding single data points in a sea of data to prop up what you want to believe, whether that data pt is CC, Juju, Britt, or Madisen McDaniels, is not a way to prove your opinion about Addie.

Second, you need to look at a bunch of data over a bunch of similar players if you want to make rational conclusions. It doesn't seem like you do.

Third, Britt Prince is a 5 star with a 96 ranking. This is identical to Addie. Iowa fans are louder and more, so Addie seems more hyped.

Fourth, most importantly, there are many players >= rank/hype than Addie with similiar, or worse, freshman seasons, especially on good teams. You want a good team, but you want to tear down all the players- somewhat because they are playing less and scoring less--because they are behind really good players. UConn fans behave better than this on their boards tbh. And I hate UConn.
 

Anon1750875978

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First, because you are cherry picking one example. Finding single data points in a sea of data to prop up what you want to believe, whether that data pt is CC, Juju, Britt, or Madisen McDaniels, is not a way to prove your opinion about Addie.

Second, you need to look at a bunch of data over a bunch of similar players if you want to make rational conclusions. It doesn't seem like you do.

Third, Britt Prince is a 5 star with a 96 ranking. This is identical to Addie. Iowa fans are louder and more, so Addie seems more hyped.

Fourth, most importantly, there are many players >= rank/hype than Addie with similiar, or worse, freshman seasons, especially on good teams. You want a good team, but you want to tear down all the players- somewhat because they are playing less and scoring less--because they are behind really good players. UConn fans behave better than this on their boards tbh. And I hate UConn.
I will apologize if anyone thinks we're being overly critical of AD.
I don't feel JJ is putting her in situations she can't handle, but I bet I'm not the only fan holding my breathe every time she touches the ball.
Hopefully, there's progress in the next 3 games.
BTW: I didn't cherry pick anything, just a player most Iowa fans would know about. I could probably do a deeper dive and find more.
 

SimonaMeow

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Some players have extraordinary freshman season. There are however a large number of top players each year that don't have compellingly high number of minutes and points their *freshman* year.

I carefully went through just the 2024 class for now. This is a list of TWELVE players who had similiar or better ranking than Addie. And had similiar or worse numbers than Addie has so far this year. All of them are likely going to be very good--just like she will be.

Deal (5*/96 grade/23rd in class)🍔
Grade is more relevant than class rank, since some classes are stronger. 🍔 = McDonald's AA.

Allie Ziebell(5*/98/7)🍔
Morgan Cheli(5*/97/11)🍔
Justice Carlton(5*/97/12)🍔
Madisen McDaniel(5*/97/14)🍔
Kendall Dudley (5*/96/18)🍔
Imari Berry(5*/96/19)🍔
Zam Jones(5*/96/21)🍔
Mackenly Randolph(5*/96/23)🍔
Avary Cain(5*/96/26)
Kyomi McMiller(5*/96/27)
Adhel Tac(5*/96/28)
Zania SockaNguemen (5*/95/30)🍔
 

SimonaMeow

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I will apologize if anyone thinks we're being overly critical of AD.
I don't feel JJ is putting her in situations she can't handle, but I bet I'm not the only fan holding my breathe every time she touches the ball.
Hopefully, there's progress in the next 3 games.
BTW: I didn't cherry pick anything, just a player most Iowa fans would know about. I could probably do a deeper dive and find more.
You picked one player to support a point out of a sea of other nonsupporting data. Sorry, but that is the exact definition of cherry picking. Yes, there is data for top players being great their freshman year. But there is plenty of data for that not being the case too.

You weren't as negative as some have been on here for sure though. And I agree Britt had a great first year! Though that last tournament game showed her looking like a freshman at the end, poor girl

The deeper dive across years of data was done by a user on reddit. I posted a link to that earlier in this thread.
 

Legend12

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Some players have extraordinary freshman season. There are however a large number of top players each year that don't have compellingly high number of minutes and points their *freshman* year.

I carefully went through just the 2024 class for now. This is a list of TWELVE players who had similiar or better ranking than Addie. And had similiar or worse numbers than Addie has so far this year. All of them are likely going to be very good--just like she will be.

Deal (5*/96 grade/23rd in class)🍔
Grade is more relevant than class rank, since some classes are stronger. 🍔 = McDonald's AA.

Allie Ziebell(5*/98/7)🍔
Morgan Cheli(5*/97/11)🍔
Justice Carlton(5*/97/12)🍔 l
Madisen McDaniel(5*/97/14)🍔
Kendall Dudley (5*/96/18)🍔
Imari Berry(5*/96/19)🍔
Zam Jones(5*/96/21)🍔
Mackenly Randolph(5*/96/23)🍔
Avary Cain(5*/96/26)
Kyomi McMiller(5*/96/27)
Adhel Tac(5*/96/28)
Zania SockaNguemen (5*/95/30)🍔

Did you also note that just about all, if not all, of your list is younger than Deal is?

Deal turned 20 before practice even started for her freshan season...not many kids are doing that.
 

Anon1750875978

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You picked one player to support a point out of a sea of other nonsupporting data. Sorry, but that is the exact definition of cherry picking. Yes, there is data for top players being great their freshman year. But there is plenty of data for that not being the case too.

You weren't as negative as some have been on here for sure though. And I agree Britt had a great first year! Though that last tournament game showed her looking like a freshman at the end, poor girl

The deeper dive across years of data was done by a user on reddit. I posted a link to that earlier in this thread.
You kinda forced me to do that "deeper drive" and refute your cherry picking comment.
So here's a couple more...
Civil...Tennessee
Chavez...Oklahoma
Spieser...KSU
McGauphy...Washington
Makeer...South Carolina
Crump...Texas
Need more???
Nevermind...You're not going to change.
You can have the last response, I'm enjoying watching the Vikings getting their azzes handed to them.
 

Hawk2yaa

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I recall Britt getting cooked by Guyton last year but according to the supposed “fans” on here she’s the second coming of Caitlin now?
 

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Heiden didn’t play as a much as people wanted last year either. Deal has struggled which is expected for a true freshman. I’m sure Heinden is telling her to just keep at it and her time will come. Just have to hope with this NIL crap other teams don’t throw money her way but that’s the case with any player now I suppose.

I will say some players have minutes played per game built into why they will play for a school. Taylor McCabe had a “start me or I’ll transfer” deal with the coach’s. Players now can have more of a say in playing time than in the past with the portal and NIL. It’s like they have an agent (usually parents) who have power.

When did McCabe demand or get the start me or I'll transfer deal? I see she started zero as a fresh and soph and 2 as a junior. I hadn't heard that before and not saying it didn't happen.
 
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I am just surprised many of you can figure out how to turn on a phone or computer...let alone type.

This forum is the all negative takes all the time forum with no real intelligent thoughts behind the negativity.
I will say it's kinda funny scrolling through all the threads/thread titles on the women's board and the majority are griping or bi***ing about an undefeated team...............

This isn't the Fran era men's teams or Bluder's let down teams prior to Caitlin Clark.
 
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, I'm enjoying watching the Vikings getting their azzes handed to them.
 
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You picked one player to support a point out of a sea of other nonsupporting data. Sorry, but that is the exact definition of cherry picking. Yes, there is data for top players being great their freshman year. But there is plenty of data for that not being the case too.

You weren't as negative as some have been on here for sure though. And I agree Britt had a great first year! Though that last tournament game showed her looking like a freshman at the end, poor girl

The deeper dive across years of data was done by a user on reddit. I posted a link to that earlier in this thread.
Iowa > your team
 

Aflachawk

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Did you actually watch the game? Baylor is super long and athletic. Clearly she’s not quite where a lot of us thought she might be. And that’s ok. Explain why she would transfer? She’s going to get better. She’s not transferring to UCLA and immediately starting, or anywhere else right now. Just let it play out.
He just threw the transfer word against the wall hoping to sound smart
 
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SimonaMeow

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You kinda forced me to do that "deeper drive" and refute your cherry picking comment.
So here's a couple more...
Civil...Tennessee
Chavez...Oklahoma
Spieser...KSU
McGauphy...Washington
Makeer...South Carolina
Crump...Texas
Need more???
Nevermind...You're not going to change.
You can have the last response, I'm enjoying watching the Vikings getting their azzes handed to them.

Your shallow dive even (shallow due to looking at only a few people with very few games under their belt this year) actually proves my point not yours about Addie.

About half the people rated like Addie are doing better, and half are doing worse. Hence she's doing around what one should expect.

And you're right. I'm not going to change to being a pointlessly negative and statistically clueless fan.
 

Anon1750875978

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Thi


Your shallow dive even (shallow due to looking at only a few people with very few games under their belt this year) actually proves my point not yours about Addie.

About half the people rated like Addie are doing better, and half are doing worse. Hence she's doing around what one should expect.

And you're right. I'm not going to change to being a pointlessly negative and statistically clueless fan.
You don't have a point!

I feel the only thing we agree on is that AD is having, what we hope, only some short term struggles.
We all want her to experience success.
 
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Hawkangler

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Sounds like you should just cheer for Nebraska then. All of your perceived Addie Deal issues disappear just like that. Problem solved, I'm a lot like Dr. Phil in that way.
Addie missed a year of basketball with her foot injury. She has shown glimpses of high level skill. We are six games into the season, I expect to see her steadily progress as the season goes along.
 

Bunsen82

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Did you also note that just about all, if not all, of your list is younger than Deal is?

Deal turned 20 before practice even started for her freshan season...not many kids are doing that.
Looks like you were calling out Deal and her age well before the posts with me. You realize you look like a major tool right? Also appears you need to learn how to spell.
 

QChawks

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So happy for her, basketball requires confidence to play effectively and it looked like she finally got some of that swagger back last night.

if we can get near 10 points from her a night that would be huge.
 

Jonesy5960

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So happy for her, basketball requires confidence to play effectively and it looked like she finally got some of that swagger back last night.

if we can get near 10 points from her a night that would be huge.
Addie getting her groove is huge if she can continue on that trajectory. Getting that fourth shooter along with CCW, McCabe, and Stremlow to complement their dominance inside makes the Hawks a really tough out.
 
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She was given much more playing time tonight. I think more than 30 minutes. Im sure that helped. She had been playing a few minutes then out, a few more than out, etc. Im sure it helped her get settled in more. Only positive thing with Chit chat missing a few games is it allowed Stremlow and Deal more playing time at the point. As the season goes we are going to need more ball handlers(insert joke here)and good guard play
 

Kceasthawk@77

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When did McCabe demand or get the start me or I'll transfer deal? I see she started zero as a fresh and soph and 2 as a junior. I hadn't heard that before and not saying it didn't happen.
It didn't. Just more internet BS. Jan would put up with that about as long as Kirk would, and we know how that went for a couple of guys who pulled that with him.
 
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