When Schiano Joins

Ole Cabbagehead

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I hope the first thing he does is dismiss all player who are in transfer portals or refuse to play to keep a redshirt. There is no I in TEAM...never was.

While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, it would be better if Sitkowski stayed. Although I do not really expect him to...

Blackshear is already gone... so nothing doing there.
 

RUbacker

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I hope the first thing he does is dismiss all player who are in transfer portals or refuse to play to keep a redshirt. There is no I in TEAM...never was.
What was interesting yesterday was Langan got knocked out of bounds and Art helped him up . Could not help but think “ get out there and HELP”
 

jsol_05

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I hope the first thing he does is dismiss all players who are in transfer portals or refuse to play to keep a redshirt. There is no I in TEAM...never was.
So you mean to tell me a man that had a contract and left for the NFL, had a contract with NE and packed it in, is in a position to tell players about quitting. Come on man if the coaches can do it, why can’t the players. How about this when a coach recruits a player and leaves before their eligibility ends, the player has the option of transferring immediately without having to sit out a year. I know we all like to think of the as a game that we all love and played growing up, but when coaches are earning in excess of 3 million a year you can’t deny that this is big business. A worker came to me last week and told me she might be leaving the company, I told her that I didn’t want to lose her and was there anything that we could do to change her mind. I also told her that she must do whatever is best for her family and that if she decided to leave I would be more than happy to write her a reference letter. It’s a business, it isn’t personal.
 

gozer56

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So you mean to tell me a man that had a contract and left for the NFL, had a contract with NE and packed it in, is in a position to tell players about quitting. Come on man if the coaches can do it, why can’t the players. How about this when a coach recruits a player and leaves before their eligibility ends, the player has the option of transferring immediately without having to sit out a year. I know we all like to think of the as a game that we all love and played growing up, but when coaches are earning in excess of 3 million a year you can’t deny that this is big business. A worker came to me last week and told me she might be leaving the company, I told her that I didn’t want to lose her and was there anything that we could do to change her mind. I also told her that she must do whatever is best for her family and that if she decided to leave I would be more than happy to write her a reference letter. It’s a business, it isn’t personal.

Okay, I'm sure this is exactly how his teammates feel about it too ...
 

brookdale-soda

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Id treat all of the kids in the transfer portal as new HS recruits. If we can take a QB better than Art we will. Let them decide what's best for them. Well do the same.

Theres gonna be a new energy around RU in a few weeks. The fanbase and the recruits will understand the vision. I think Art will want to stay as well as Blackshear once they see the light.
 

Yeah Baby

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Right, because the situations are completely identical - players looking for playing time versus players refusing to play
Or players who came to play for Ash and McNulty who got fired vs players who went to play for a coach and don’t like that coach.
 
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anon_ivydyf0amkzay

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It is every players right to enter said portal and to behave in what they believe to be in THEIR best interest.

Tell us OP, do you not do things in your life that are in YOUR best interest where you don’t give a **** what others think?

I didnt think so! :Wink:
 

gozer56

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Or players who came to play for Ash and McNulty who got fired vs players who went to play for a coach and don’t like that coach.

If you think players refusing to play fits into that model, then I just don't know what to tell you
 

Yeah Baby

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If you think players refusing to play fits into that model, then I just don't know what to tell you
I don’t like what they did or the transfer portal as a whole but they are playing by today’s rules. Leaving for playing time or preserving a year of eligibility when you HC and OC get canned in game 4 are no different to me. We changed our Offense and these 2 have the right to sit a year and either stay or leave just like the kid who wants to transfer for more playing time. In both cases they probably heard one thing when they were recruited and then got another. 4 years goes by really fast for these kids. If they want to extend it a year they should be allowed to. If they don’t like a coach they are allowed to move on. Those are the rules today. If they come back that is good for us. We need as much talent as we can get: just like every other team in the country but more.
 

Yeah Baby

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Art is sitting because he can't run the offence Nunzio put in. He loves Rutgers and I was told he wants to stay if the new coach runs an offence he can play in.
Exactly. It is also possible the new HC will run a similar Offense to Nunzio and now Art has a year to practice that Offense. Langan is a tough SOB but needs to break the pocket with his eyes downfield. Right now he’s either a statue getting sacked or a tough running QB. Hopefully he can develop or be a great H Back. He a tough dude.
 

G- RUnit

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Or softball players encouraged to leave... lol.

Coaches always do what’s best for themselves.

Players should have same.
 

gozer56

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Art is sitting because he can't run the offence Nunzio put in. He loves Rutgers and I was told he wants to stay if the new coach runs an offence he can play in.

This is not true -Nunzio is running this style of offense because the QB is not capable of throwing a football
 

gozer56

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I don’t like what they did or the transfer portal as a whole but they are playing by today’s rules. Leaving for playing time or preserving a year of eligibility when you HC and OC get canned in game 4 are no different to me. We changed our Offense and these 2 have the right to sit a year and either stay or leave just like the kid who wants to transfer for more playing time. In both cases they probably heard one thing when they were recruited and then got another. 4 years goes by really fast for these kids. If they want to extend it a year they should be allowed to. If they don’t like a coach they are allowed to move on. Those are the rules today. If they come back that is good for us. We need as much talent as we can get: just like every other team in the country but more.

They made a choice - no way this team would ever except or trust them as teammates again. But, I do wish the very best and much success for them moving forward.
 

NickKnight 1

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Art is sitting because he can't run the offence Nunzio put in. He loves Rutgers and I was told he wants to stay if the new coach runs an offence he can play in.
So he inherits a QB that is doing great for 3 games, so he installs an offense that his buddy from high school knows.
Then this board blames Sit for red shirting, which is his right to choose what is best for him. RU is a flipping joke, putting
a high school coach to run the team.
 

gozer56

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So he inherits a QB that is doing great for 3 games, so he installs an offense that his buddy from high school knows.
Then this board blames Sit for red shirting, which is his right to choose what is best for him. RU is a flipping joke, putting
a high school coach to run the team.

That isn't what happened at all - Nunzio didn't install a new offense and Art chose to sit. Nunzio is running plays that his QB might succeed with
 
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Yeah Baby

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They made a choice - no way this team would ever except or trust them as teammates again. But, I do wish the very best and much success for them moving forward.
But they will trust a kid who transfers from another program? Guess what, this team is going to have a whole new cast of characters and they will all want the best players and coaches around them. If we didn’t fire our HC and OC and these guys decided to sit without the blessing of the staff they would be done here. That’s not the case. New coach coming and he will decide who we keep, who we recruit and who will play. Not you and not me.
 

gozer56

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But they will trust a kid who transfers from another program? Guess what, this team is going to have a whole new cast of characters and they will all want the best players and coaches around them. If we didn’t fire our HC and OC and these guys decided to sit without the blessing of the staff they would be done here. That’s not the case. New coach coming and he will decide who we keep, who we recruit and who will play. Not you and not me.

Okay, so I guess that's the reason why Nunzio publicly called them out during a presser when they chose not to play ... because he wasn't expressing the sentiments of the coaching staff and the team as whole. Got it, thanks.
 

NickKnight 1

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That isn't what happened at all - Nunzio didn't install a new offense and Art chose to sit. Nunzio is running plays that his QB might succeed with
Before Sit chose to sit, Nunzio
Said he was preparing his guy for atleast equal time Sit says no way.
 

robcac26

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Sucks we don't have them playing now, but if they stay then we will hopefully have them for a more productive year.
 
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OC Knight

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So you mean to tell me a man that had a contract and left for the NFL, had a contract with NE and packed it in, is in a position to tell players about quitting. Come on man if the coaches can do it, why can’t the players. How about this when a coach recruits a player and leaves before their eligibility ends, the player has the option of transferring immediately without having to sit out a year. I know we all like to think of the as a game that we all love and played growing up, but when coaches are earning in excess of 3 million a year you can’t deny that this is big business. A worker came to me last week and told me she might be leaving the company, I told her that I didn’t want to lose her and was there anything that we could do to change her mind. I also told her that she must do whatever is best for her family and that if she decided to leave I would be more than happy to write her a reference letter. It’s a business, it isn’t personal.
I've always believed that if a coaching change occurs, players should be able to leave. Take Savage at Arizona. He goes there and they switch to Rich Rod who runs a spread. Is he supposed to just suck it up and lose any chance he has to play in the NFL?
 

jsol_05

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If you think players refusing to play fits into that model, then I just don't know what to tell you
Players are bypassing bowl games because to be honest it isn’t a good business decision and risk getting injured. The game that most of us grew up on is over, too much $$$$ involved. What do you think USC will pay UM to coach their team. I think they will throw T least 10 mill at him. It’s not a game it is a business.
 
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I don’t like what they did or the transfer portal as a whole but they are playing by today’s rules. Leaving for playing time or preserving a year of eligibility when you HC and OC get canned in game 4 are no different to me. We changed our Offense and these 2 have the right to sit a year and either stay or leave just like the kid who wants to transfer for more playing time. In both cases they probably heard one thing when they were recruited and then got another. 4 years goes by really fast for these kids. If they want to extend it a year they should be allowed to. If they don’t like a coach they are allowed to move on. Those are the rules today. If they come back that is good for us. We need as much talent as we can get: just like every other team in the country but more.

Sucks we don't have them playing now, but if they stay then we will hopefully have them for a more productive year.


Please stop being reasonable. Emotional rants from sensitive posters only.
 

letterhead6

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I was told from someone connected to the team ,that the players understand Art's situation and fully support him.
This is exactly the problem. They should NOT understand Art's position. He was a dog sh*t QB as a freshman, but RU and the team stuck by him. He is quitting on them right now, because he knows the team sucks and wants to preserve a year for HIMSELF. Why is he still in the locker room? I can tell you why...because our moronic AD fired the coach for no good reason after 4 games instead of 5 or 6. That has out RU in a difficult decision....but I can tell you that if GS were hired tomorrow I bet anything he would tell them to play or LEAVE.
 

chrism25

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Nunzio has said multiple times he was installing a new simplified offense. For those that say lets keep Nunzio, that alone is a reason they should not keep him. Not that he would ever get the HC job but changing offenses mid season was stupid and made the team less competitive and cost him any chance he had of getting the HC job.
 
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Rutgersfamily

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If the team's having a crappy year, and a player just up and says I want no part of this, I can do better....well then he's a selfish ***. But when the head coach gets fired mid season, along with the OC, and the higher ups have basically said we're not gonna win another game (save for Liberty), .....I think the player has every right to do what's best for him. AND possibly the team if they stay, get an extra year, and play for a decent HC the next few seasons.
 

zappaa

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I’m pretty sure had #8 continued to play and be a contributor to this team.
Nunzio’s offense would look completely different than the one you see now.
 
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IvyLeagueFootball

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This is exactly the problem. They should NOT understand Art's position. He was a dog sh*t QB as a freshman, but RU and the team stuck by him. He is quitting on them right now, because he knows the team sucks and wants to preserve a year for HIMSELF. Why is he still in the locker room? I can tell you why...because our moronic AD fired the coach for no good reason after 4 games instead of 5 or 6. That has out RU in a difficult decision....but I can tell you that if GS were hired tomorrow I bet anything he would tell them to play or LEAVE.

Maybe they realize he was thrown to the wolves before he was ready and should have been redshirted last year.
 
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This is exactly the problem. They should NOT understand Art's position. He was a dog sh*t QB as a freshman, but RU and the team stuck by him. He is quitting on them right now, because he knows the team sucks and wants to preserve a year for HIMSELF. Why is he still in the locker room? I can tell you why...because our moronic AD fired the coach for no good reason after 4 games instead of 5 or 6. That has out RU in a difficult decision....but I can tell you that if GS were hired tomorrow I bet anything he would tell them to play or LEAVE.

Artur is the only way for GS to show quick improvement. GS is going to be happy he’ll have Artur for three years rather than two. Our best chance for significant improvement is for Artur to return and for Rutgers to provide him with better protection and WR talent.
 
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