It seemed like our coach when he was with Oregon and UCF they continually threw bombs all game long. Thus scored many points. I'm waiting for that to come a reality with our Husker team. What's the hold up?
When are we going to throw the deep balls?
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Our offense is handicapped by lack of OL play. It's like they are drawing plays in the dirt. If you can't run between the tackles your playbook shrinks to nothing.
If the defense doesn’t have to respect your running game, then they can sit back in coverage. Frost is a great play caller, but if the opponent only has to devote 3-4 guys to stopping the run, then it’s hard to throw against 7-8 guys in coverage
True enough and well stated sir. The endless fluff-ball fans will never, ever grasp what you're saying.....but thank God HCSF knows it quite well. When we get to where we can run the damn ball between the tackles our passing game will be way, wayyyy more successful.
I agree OL protection and run game struggles have been a factor, but AM has had plenty of time on enough plays to make things happen, plus he’s mobile so he can be rolled out more to buy time.
Re: run game - it’s also the fact we’re not even attempting to stretch the field that has made defending the run easy. They go hand in hand.
Re: speed— if coaches are concerned about speed they can lineup 5+ track guys that can blow by the DBs. Maybe they can’t catch a ball every time, but speed is on the roster.
I’m going to say the #1 contributor is we’ve been playing slow and afraid. Coaches to players. And it’s unacceptable.
Today I’ll say they finally cut it loose and turn the page on the season.
It needs to happen. Hyper-focused, dialed in, and playing balls to the wall (per all the balls references).
Frost knows how, he just needs to come out of his slump. Because what we’ve witnessed is not what has been advertised, and Frost is a man of his word. It’s time to publish what’s been promised.
Re: run game - it’s also the fact we’re not even attempting to stretch the field that has made defending the run easy. They go hand in hand.
Re: speed— if coaches are concerned about speed they can lineup 5+ track guys that can blow by the DBs. Maybe they can’t catch a ball every time, but speed is on the roster.
I’m going to say the #1 contributor is we’ve been playing slow and afraid. Coaches to players. And it’s unacceptable.
Today I’ll say they finally cut it loose and turn the page on the season.
It needs to happen. Hyper-focused, dialed in, and playing balls to the wall (per all the balls references).
Frost knows how, he just needs to come out of his slump. Because what we’ve witnessed is not what has been advertised, and Frost is a man of his word. It’s time to publish what’s been promised.
Huskers throwing deep balls now is about as rare as when we were an option team and would call fake option passes.
Seems we only go deep 1-3 times a game. I hoped this season would be different and 2AM and Frost would be more comfortable taking shots but for some reason it's not happening.
Seems we only go deep 1-3 times a game. I hoped this season would be different and 2AM and Frost would be more comfortable taking shots but for some reason it's not happening.
True but teams like Washington State throw the ball almost every down with success and don't even have the threat of a mobile QB.
That is not the point!!
If defenses are dropping tons of defenders in coverage, there are still ways to have success through the air. Teams like Wazzu, running Air Raid schemes deal with what we are facing every week yet they are finding ways to have success passing the ball.
I think it is a combination of our O-line being so horrible that Martinez has zero time and we have no decent wr except for JD.
The two systems are not the same. The air raid has its own methods of opening things up, a spread option relies on a run game so no run game, no smooth running offense.
Check out the second half of the UCF vs Auburn bowl game. Auburn was dropping everyone in coverage but Milton can't taking shots deep. That also happened to open things up for Milton to tuck it and run when he wanted because DBs are 40 yards down field chasing wrs!
People think for some reason the coaching staff should be able to completely change offensive systems week to week. We have spread personnel at skill positions, not “air raid” or whatever you want to call it. But now people want to be air raid...which will be the first people to bag on AM when he would struggle running an air raid system. What a joke
OMG you both are clueless! Because we are not an Air Raid team does not mean we can not stretch the field and go deep. CLUELESS!!!
The UCF Auburn game shows Scott Frost and Milton, facing a defense who consistently rushed 3-4 players and dropped 7-8 players in to coverage. In Frost's spread scheme, Milton was able to take shots down field and it got UCF on the right track.
Rewatch the highlights of OUR SCHEME having success against heavy defenders in coverage:
The only safe passes for AM are to the sidelines on quick outs, or to intermediate length sideline throws. Sadly, the middle should be off limits because of his potential to throw picks there.. Heck, even the quick out can get picked if he isn't careful.
Has he thrown a pass over 35 yards? I don't mean a play resulting in 35+ yards, I mean from release to catch, I don't think I have ever seen him really heave one.
Has he thrown a pass over 35 yards? I don't mean a play resulting in 35+ yards, I mean from release to catch, I don't think I have ever seen him really heave one.
Or you can watch UCF vs Stanford right now. Stanford is dropping 7-8 defenders in coverage but UCF is still attacking deep.
And we run the same scheme which is NOT THE AIR RAID!!!!
Even when we were an option team, we threw the deep ball quite regularly. That was part of the whole offense, and part of the reason our completion percentages were so low is every pass was a deep ball.
You never caught the point yet started arguing with me like my point is wrong. You don't even know what you are arguing with me about!!!
The reason we need to attack deep is to open up the offense. By attacking vertically more than 2-3 times a game, the rest of the offense should open up. UCF is demonstrating this right now against a solid defense that has dropped 7-8 defenders in coverage while still being beat deep.
Also by attacking deep, the short pass game and run game directly benefit.
-For you to say "UCF has a run game" after UCF has gone deep completely misses the point! Going deep should open up the run game!
-For you to say we can't attack a defense with 7-8 guys in coverage is incorrect but also completely misses the point. It makes sense to keep a defense guessing regardless of what look they give you.
-For you to say we run an Air Raid scheme so we arent designed to attack heavy coverage is incorrect as you have a live example to follow.
Just throw the ball deep more than 2-3 times a game!!!!!!
We are not 2017 UCF, we are 2019 Nebraska. That was the best offense in college football that season and they could run the ball VERY well. We can’t run the football well....Hmmmm
We’re clueless to the spread option offense though....
With a heavy dose of run the deep, open receivers were kind of what you wanted on play action.