Wheeler eligible!
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That is Jamal Wheeley to you.
Never doubted it. But great news. The people who doubted the value of this kid will be cringing when some of the April threads are revisited next spring.
Let’s hope and they don’t turn out like the Askew threads. I have faith.
That’s bold, cotton.
Askew was an under-aged freshman trying to learn college basketball with little summer or fall prep because if COVID. Wheeler is a junior returning after an All-SEC second team season.
I’m confident their years won’t be the same.
Feeling really good about Sahvir with TyTy on the roster. Lets go!
That's wheeley good news
I believe/hope you are correct but everybody thought Harrow was gonna be a beast too, especially after redshirting a year here.
They knew it. Wheeler is a difference maker on a good roster. I'm ready!
Yea, Harrow was never an assist leader in the ACC or an all conference team selection. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Askew started the season at 18 as is usual. He reclassified back to his original class. But I think Wheeler will be fine. He's already proven he can play at this level
Harrow never mentally had it to play at UK. He was also really small physically. He played well after leaving to a school without the pressure we have here
I think he and TyTy will be a good tandem. I’m still excited about the makeup of this roster. That Duke is the first game and Coach K retiring, the build up leading to that game will be of biblical proportions.
He was also the only non freshmen PG we had, up to that point. If you don’t think he was hyped up, well, not much I can do for ya.
100 percent. I should save some of these posts for the first bad game he has, a lot of these people hyping him up, will be the same people that demolish him.
Anyone else see the video of Lucas welcoming him? Lucas is 5'10 and wheeler looked a good 3 or 4 inches shorter. Maybe it was a bad angle but I'll be curious when the pro day rolls around. Not complaining, kid can play, just think they may have added an inch or two on the official measurements. Same way I snagged my wife.
Has there been any rulings or updates on Kanter?
Yea, becasue it would be completely illogical to hype the SEC assist leader, SEC 3rd team selection and one of the top passers in all of CBB last year.
I don't know about "everybody," but I was sure guilty of thinking Harrow was going to be really good. I don't mind admitting I was wrong on Harrow. But there was stuff going on with him that had nothing to do with a lack of talent or skill set. Unless Wheeler has a similar psychological struggle, then I think it's reasonable to expect similar abilities to what he showed at Georgia, right?
Why would anyone who doubts Wheeler be cringing? I remain a Wheeler doubter, but if he turns out to be a good player for UK that will be great news...I would hope we all care more about UK basketball than our prognostications.
Wheeler's "traditional" stats are impressive....14pts, 4 reb, 8a, 2 stl....but his "modern" stats and some others, are just terrible.Yea, becasue it would be completely illogical to hype the SEC assist leader, SEC 3rd team selection and one of the top passers in all of CBB last year.
Georgia's raw offensive rating was apprx 102 points (per 100 poss.) and defensive rating 102. But Wheeler individually had and offensive rating of 96 and defensive rating of 105. So he was a net negative 6 points on the offensive side and net negative -3 points on the defensive side. Simply put, he was a below average offensive and defensive player both nationally and on Georgia's team.
These numbers made him 8th on his team in Win Shares per 40 minutes and that number (0.072) would be worst in the Cal era except for Askew. That's right, Harrow's win shares per 40 minutes was better than Mr. All SEC.
The reason for Wheeler's poor analytics is his nearly 13 shots per game (only Brandon Knight averaged more under Cal as a PG) and making a low percentage (only 54% of layups, 22% of 3's) and averaging nearly 5 To's per game.
Hopefully he will be an asset for UK, but the analytics suggest not. Rooting for all you guys and gals that are high on Wheeler to be right. We will find out soon enough.
Regards
Perfect nickname for the SEC’s top assist man.
Was 2nd team last yr with no where near the killers he will have this yr
Hints the word, bold, Cotton. Haha I’m just messing with you bro. He better do it. He is enough of a squad around him, hopefully
Another Rupp’s Rafter classic is born!
It sounds unreal, but Wheeler could average 10 assists a game with the shooters he'll have around him.
I'm giddy for the season to start.
I'm giddy for the season to start.
He will be a bigtime table-setter and become a fan favorite with his play.
I’m a little skeptical about the shooting part.
Yes, we have more shooters, but having them on the floor together will be the issue.
Fredrick, Washington, or Mintz (if he returns) gives us a shooter at the 2.
Grady or Allen give us a shooter at the 3.
Brooks, Toppin, Collins, or Hopkins at the 4 is where things get dicey. None of those four really make me comfortable when it comes to shooting the ball.
And of course Tshiebwe or Ware at the 5. Neither player is going to do much outside of the paint.
So Wheeler will likely have two shooters on the floor to kick it to when he drives.
So unless one of the 4’s develop a reliable jumper, I don’t really see us having a bunch of shooters on the floor with Wheeler.
What your analytics don’t ell you is what Crean May have been telling him about how he should play his game. Maybe he told to shoot that much because much of their line up sucked and the coach decided he had a better chance of scoring than anyone else. Also comparing Brandon’s analytics to Wheeler considering the personnel each played with is disingenuous at best. It is a fact the kid led the SEC in assists playing for the second worst team in the league, that not your dubious analytics makes me excited that he will be playing for us.
I think this kid is a leader and is very knowledgeable about BB. He could be the major steal for us.