What is wrong with Boston's shot ?

Lukasz0brzut

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He just always steps in to take a more difficult shot imo. I actually would like to see what he can do by posting up- facing and shooting over guards- similar to what Cal tries to do with IJ
 

revcort

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I'm seeing a bit of a hitch in his shot. It almost looks like he's cocking his arms back just before he releases the shot. Watch it in slow motion and you'll see what I'm talking about. He doesn't do it on his set shots or free throws but he does it on his jumpers.
 
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BleedBlue63

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Anyone remember that scene in the movie with Bobby Knight where he tells a guy he cannot shoot like that, and makes the guy go to the other end with a coach to change his shot while everyone else practiced?
I always thought that was a huge mistake to try to change a players shot this far in, but this guy needs to change it. The motion takes way 2 long and it comes from very low which will not cut it in college.
Seems like a TN player changed his over a summer, Schofield maybe? It can be done.

I think Cal is telling him to drive it, but he is not fast enough or elusive enough to rely on that, you gotta be able to hit a jumpshot or 3 pointer in college to open the floor for more.
What movie?
 
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Everybody shoots different. I know there’s a correct way that’s taught to shoot but some very good shooters have not so perfect shots. The problem with his shot is that it never goes in.
 
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you can either shoot or you can't. Incremental improvement can be made via dedication and practice, but it's an aptitude thing

he's not a shooter
 
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You are right but do you think Cal's unsolicited comment that all the good Allen did was offset by his mistakes. It is one thing for the fans to boo you but it is another thing to be criticized unnecessarily in such a public way by your coach. Considering that he broke a 6 game losing streak for Cal just a couple days ago, he deserved better from Cal.
People really hear what they want to. Cal talked about Allen's defense and some misses which he had. He then went on to praise Allen saying he made up for it by making shots and that they have to have Allen out there because he makes shots and opens up the floor. He also mentioned that Allen got the second chance after missing the FT with the lane violation and DA made it or that Vandy shot would have been for the win. I mean let go of the narrative. Cal was pretty straight up when talking about DA and he played him 32 minutes good for the second-most on the team behind just Mintz. Maybe have a listen again.

He also said Boston had to come out at the end because of his defense so it's not like Cal is picking on just poor DA. He gave him more compliments than the one comment about losing his guy a few times and giving up some 3s. Cal also said he ran a play for Allen and boom he nailed it.

 

LowCountryCat

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You are right but do you think Cal's unsolicited comment that all the good Allen did was offset by his mistakes. It is one thing for the fans to boo you but it is another thing to be criticized unnecessarily in such a public way by your coach. Considering that he broke a 6 game losing streak for Cal just a couple days ago, he deserved better from Cal.
That was Cal’s “this is not the university of Dontaie Allen” moment.
 

Greatestalltime

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What’s wrong with most shots that aren’t good?

Answer: off hand should ONLY be there to hold the ball. Not push it in any way. Unless you’re Larry Bird and shoot 100k shots every summer of your childhood.
 
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Cal-4-Three

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Can anyone verify that UK requires the players to shoot on a machine that requires a certain amount of arc? I've seen videos of a net like structure in front and on top of the rim to require them to shoot a higher arc it would seem. If they are trying to change the shots of these kids for the one year they are here, it would explain all of the supposedly "good" shooters we have had that have struggled early on.
 

EliteBlue

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Please tell me that didn’t happen. Did we really have fans booing him?
It was during our first half dry spell when he started playing some 1v1 and forced a couple back to back. Feel for the kid. He’s still playing hard, just can’t find his game.
 
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theoledog

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i sometimes listen to Jerry Eaves ... follows Matt Jones... Jerry has a sports talk radio show, a real sports talk show if you know what I mean. He might be a former Card player and fan of UofL but his sports related comments about sports are much more informative when. It comes to sports.......
notice how many times i used “sports” above..... i posit to you guys that there is a reason MJ talks so many other things not sport.

well Jerry said Boston has poor shooting mechanics... hasn’t been coached in a way that promotes those things a player needs to do to shoot well... footwork being key... that’s what he said.
 

qwesley

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Anyone remember that scene in the movie with Bobby Knight where he tells a guy he cannot shoot like that, and makes the guy go to the other end with a coach to change his shot while everyone else practiced?
I always thought that was a huge mistake to try to change a players shot this far in, but this guy needs to change it. The motion takes way 2 long and it comes from very low which will not cut it in college.
Seems like a TN player changed his over a summer, Schofield maybe? It can be done.

I think Cal is telling him to drive it, but he is not fast enough or elusive enough to rely on that, you gotta be able to hit a jumpshot or 3 pointer in college to open the floor for more.
Yes, his release is slow, low, and takes too long and not physical enough to drive or create space.
 

Bratkartoffeln

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I have tried to watch him when he is shooting, the only thing is see is he is not squaring up his body. Thoughts ?
Combination of things, but he obviously does not have "textbook" form (see Mintz, Sarr) and that may be a lingering issue going forward. Some of it really seems to be not being comfortable in our offensive sets to know where and when to shoot. I'm not a big fan of the offense we run, but there are some decent looks out of it and we are running it better of late...crisper passes and more energetic cuts. Some of it is mental. More time in the gym will fix that. More transition baskets/opportunities would surely help...this is obviously where he excels.

As an avid golfer with a 6 handicap, I can shoot often in the 70s but still I go back and forth on the short game shots that really enhance your score in golf. Sometimes, I do quite well putting and chipping, but sometimes can find little or no mental ability and can miss a string of putts inside of five feet. My goal is to be a scratch golfer, but a combination of things is keeping me from that, and at this point, a lot of it is mental, either pressure on myself to do well or not "locking in" mentally to ensure success. Some of the problem scoring in golf is too much distraction, and that too, whether he might admit it or not, is an issue. I would think that with BJ's slow start, he is in a mental funk that can be cured with some lucky shots/opportunities, playing better team defense, and seeing the team excel down the road. Watching from the bench would probably help too.

One thing we as a fan base can and should do is stay the hell off his back. I know what I have to do to excel at golf. He knows pretty much what he has to do to be good at UK, and I think we'll see a much better version of him with the emergence of Keion Brooks, better team success, and more time.
 
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Yes, his release is slow, low, and takes too long and not physical enough to drive or create space.
^^^ This is exactly his issue. The kid is 6'7" with long arms, but can have his shot affected by a 6'0" guard because of the long, low release ... not to mention that when your shooting stroke/path is that long (starting from the waist rather than the shooting pocket at the shoulder) you increase the likelihood of being off target and it produces an inconsistent release.

As you also stated, lack of strength is his other big issue. The slightest bump and he is unable to play through it and force his way to the basket, or regain his balance and pull up for short jumper off of two feet.
 
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kywildcats8

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Was he a good shooter in HS or did he just out "athlete" all the other HS players and take it to the basket all the time?
 

Soupbean

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I have tried to watch him when he is shooting, the only thing is see is he is not squaring up his body. Thoughts ?
Its always less about mechanics that it is head. Take better shots and you make more. Take them in rythm and the flow of the offense and you make more. Take them with confidence without hesitation and you make more. He's still learning how to do all that. First and foremost needs to lear about spacing and stop driving into traffic and forcing things. Also needs to learn how to pass and get it back in space. Right now thinks he has to dribble his way into a shot and ends up dribbling right into crowds or bad angles etc.
 
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Cowtown Cat

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I’ve wondered if it’s from lifting weights. I know this has been debated at length on this board. From experience, weight lifting absolutely affects your shot. No doubt about it.
 

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When you are in a shooting slump, you should always try to get more arch on your shot. It's simple physics. The more perpendicular to the rim the path of the ball is, the bigger area the ball has to go through the hoop.
 
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