What I Need Right Now
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Just in my day to day man on the street activities and the people I talk to , there is a lot bigger % of people fed up with Cal than there ever was fed up with Tubby.
What can they do about it?
Mitch is now Cal’s boss in title only, but not in reality. He surrendered all leverage to Cal when he gave him that unreal lifetime contract extension.
I dont use Twitter, we get enough animus and info on here for me.
Anyway, I just did a quick search for Calipari per @TankedCat advice above because I am curious if its just us or if its the whole fan base whos fed up.
Anyway, Aaron Torres made a great post I felt: Think two things can be true about Kentucky basketball. Think that yes, you can say "Calipari always figures it out." Also completely justifiable for fans to say "With the resources provided, we shouldn't have to wait until February every year to figure it out." Both can be true
And i think those ofnus who are pissed feel pretty damn strongly about the latter and there really isnt a viable rebuttal to that point. "We are young" is a ******* ******** excuse when you choose to build the roster that way. Stop saying it over and over zealots. If you want to build the roster that way, youd sure as **** better win and not look like a total clown show.
Anyway, I just did a quick search for Calipari per @TankedCat advice above because I am curious if its just us or if its the whole fan base whos fed up.
Anyway, Aaron Torres made a great post I felt: Think two things can be true about Kentucky basketball. Think that yes, you can say "Calipari always figures it out." Also completely justifiable for fans to say "With the resources provided, we shouldn't have to wait until February every year to figure it out." Both can be true
And i think those ofnus who are pissed feel pretty damn strongly about the latter and there really isnt a viable rebuttal to that point. "We are young" is a ******* ******** excuse when you choose to build the roster that way. Stop saying it over and over zealots. If you want to build the roster that way, youd sure as **** better win and not look like a total clown show.
Give me a break. Mitch and Capilouto. Cal’s job is not even close to being in jeopardy. An Elite Eight in 2018 and a team that was in the hunt last year before COVID. Step off the ledge.
No he didnt. And the fans have the ultimate say and power.. boosters have a ton of leverage but when we say we're done thats when things happen. Money ultimately is what drives these decisions and they cant do this without UK fans. After Covid has decimated budgets itll be even harder to go along after next season if butts arent in seats that season. They simply cant afford it. Contracts are all lip service documents....any lawyer can work their way through that if it ever comes to that. Be real man.
Probably part of it . I do think more people liked Tubbys personality vs Cals though .
I didn't say his job was in jeopardy, I said how far they will let this go. He is a highly paid coach, he has one of the largest, if not the largest , highest paid staff. They have to question if the current approach is the best fit for Kentucky Basketball. I mean they should be evaluating that with every sport every year. that's the job of an AD and to report that to the president, but a blue chip program has that much more scrutiny. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Mitch asked Cal what he plans on doing to marginalize the issues with roster turnover in the future., and more importantly, what are they doing to improve the quality of basketball we see on the floor.
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I kinda see where you are coming from but it’s pointless. What I want is to know that somebody is working on passing, defensive skills and decision making, spacing, etc. all the things we are doing wrong. Folks are worried about fluff. I’m worried about the things we need to play better fundamental basketball. With better fundamentals and execution, we’d be 3-1 or 4-0 now.
We’ve got a little breathing room here practice wise, I can deal with the losses. It’s athletics and you are not ever guaranteed a win. I do expect improvement. We have not been seeing that. Let’s hope it gets done in practice.
3 -4 years of .500 ball or so. That would get him fired. Maybe more. Cal isn’t going anywhere.
What UK “simply can’t afford“ is a buyout of a contract that obligates it to pay $10 million per year through the year 2029. Sorry, fella, but there are no fancy lawyer tricks enabling UK to get out of that contract.
Firing Cal is simply not a realistic option for the foreseeable future. Some posters here need to come to terms with that reality.
Firing isn't in the discussion. Cal will leave before that happens. He will not allow himself to be fired at Kentucky. I think at one time Cal wanted to replace Joe B. Hall as the old wisened coach who has the run of the place and the best seat in the house at games. I don't know if that appeals to him anymore, but he isn't going to let it get to a firing situation. He'll walk if it doesn't get better and that is within 2 years. I think he wants to be able to be around the UK program after he quits coaching.
I hope you're right. Cal needs held accountable. His way, his problem.
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Do you think this team will play .500 ball this year? I’d say that while they can, the jury is certainly still out at this point. If they get to the SEC under .500 I’d say it’s almost a given they won’t.
I'd say there is alot they can do to make Cal unhappy if he doesn't want to change for the good of the program. Ultimately it may harm the program, but if we're at a lose to 0-2 Georgia Tech stage, would it be noticeable?
his staff, recruiting budget, transportation, facilities management, athlete acceptance requirements, etc
I spend a lot of time defending Calipari on this forum, but even I will admit this: the condescension and arrogance are character flaws that an edgy badass can get away with when he’s out kicking *** and taking names. Cal used to be that guy and those traits were all part of the brand.
They are most definitely not welcome behaviors from the guy who just got housed by 0-2 Georgia Tech.
They are most definitely not welcome behaviors from the guy who just got housed by 0-2 Georgia Tech.
You may be right. Without knowing the minutiae of Cal's contract, Im not gonna go back and forth or die on a hill arguing about it because yes, I dont know what verbiage it contains to act like Im an expert on it.
I simply will say, I refuse to believe there's no way out if it comes to that (I hope it doesnt. Id much rather we turn things around and be wrong. Winning is more important than being right, at least as far as basketball arguments sre concerned.)
If in fact the only way out is a monumental buyout, and things continue on their present trajectory....I dont want to think about that.
Get yourself a Cal picture and piss on it every day if that makes you feel better. Cry all you want, he ain’t leaving.
I just looked at the schedule thru january. I'm not sure we win 2 more games in December from ND, UL, UCLA and Det Mercy. I don't think we can go 3-1 to get to .500 before conference play. Then IDK if this team can go .500 in conf right now.
You keep saying what you think. You are forgetting what he and his management think. I haven’t seen a single hint he plans to leave. If what the haters say is true about the NBA being his sole focus, that’s going swimmingly. Why would he leave? Of course the haters are wrong, but bottom line Cal won’t leave till he gets good and ready. I suspect 5 years minimum.
Ode 2 Kytubbyfan GOAT:
I have played a game on boards
Hardwood boards
Actually
Had an experience with a little PlayStation punk
On the court once
Trashed his fat pimply face in horse
Thought he was going to cry
Might have been you for all I know
Neither understood crap about basketball Nor had ever played.
I have played a game on boards
Hardwood boards
Actually
Had an experience with a little PlayStation punk
On the court once
Trashed his fat pimply face in horse
Thought he was going to cry
Might have been you for all I know
Neither understood crap about basketball Nor had ever played.
if he turns it around, if it doesn't I give him 2 years.
what we both agree on is that he won't leave until he is ready, but you thought that already which is why you put out that ridiculous 3 or 4 .500 seasons statement trying to get a rise out of people.
The UK fan base can make it miserable for Cal. If its true about him leaving the post game presser early, then he is already being affected by it. If we have a crap season this year and next year isn't looking better, Cal will leave well before 5 years. He's already said a decade was as long as you last on this job when he got here. Now he's fighting against the clock.
To answer your question, in my opinion, he has won a championship here, he has plenty of $$, and he doesn’t answer to anyone. Complacent
Honestly.....what do we do if we lose to Detroit? Serious question. Its not hyperbole to say that would be any worse than any single Gillispie loss. Hell, Cal already gave us the Bob Morris game that seems to be lost to history.
They played MSU tight. This may be Mike Anderson's ultimate Super Bowl eh Cal? Ugh at the thought of it.
I may have to borrow the one on your nightstand. He’ll be gone sooner than later if these shitshows continue.
Losing to the team his son plays on is going to be problematic on more than one level.
A few years ago a thread like this would’ve been quickly shut down. People would point to the miraculous run of the 2014 team. I think that team bought Cal a lot of run. Every one could point to it as reason to believe that better times were soon ahead. The fans don’t see it that way now.
I remember John Wall using the phrase “stay humble, stay hungry.”. Cal has been the opposite of that. He’s been arrogant. He’s too comfortable.
Im just a basketball Benny. All I can do is sit back and watch.
I remember John Wall using the phrase “stay humble, stay hungry.”. Cal has been the opposite of that. He’s been arrogant. He’s too comfortable.
Im just a basketball Benny. All I can do is sit back and watch.
Cal sounds much like another national championship coach I remember when his fan base dared to question diminishing results. I’m talking about Nolan Richardson at Arkansas. He began attacking his fan base and low and behold the most popular guy in the state a few years earlier was GONE in less than a year. Cal’s recent mocking of our fans ( at his presser a couple of weeks ago) is strikingly similar. He seems to have grown the type of ego they feel he is beyond criticism, and certianly not from the lowly fans. If you saw the presser his disdain for our fan base was obvious. All I can tell him is he has” no idea” how bad things will get if things don’t improve. My guess is he will over on to NBA rather than endure it and completely trash our fans and program on his way out the door. I hope I’m wrong but I bet I’m not.