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TarHeelEer

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WVUBRU said:
Yes, early on NY was having a hard time and Cuomo was talking about it daily. This shows what he was warning about was true. That isn't the discussion point. The country was too late in preparing for the onslaught due to reasons that you continue to deny. Now you want to blame the state and those that were trying. Look at the entire picture for the entire story. You won't though.
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The only worse picture there could've been is if he'd sent them infected blankets on purpose. The state of NY failed to protect their elderly. That's on them, not anyone else. That's one reason their mortality rate is higher than the rest of the country.
 
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WVUBRU

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And it was this type of disaster that led to the preparation of the extra hospital space which you are now calling a waste. Hindsight is nice but it does need to be understood. You nuts don't understand squat, ever.
 
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TarHeelEer

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WVUBRU said:
And it was this type of disaster that led to the preparation of the extra hospital space which you are now calling a waste. Hindsight is nice but it does need to be understood. You nuts don't understand squat, ever.
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We called out the predictions at the very getgo. That is not hindsight.
 
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moe said:
I'm not opposing handing out money just pointing out that they're incompetent (and corrupt?) when doing so, see the article.
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I am pointing out that you are a piece of ****.
 
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WVUBRU said:
Yes, early on NY was having a hard time and Cuomo was talking about it daily. This shows what he was warning about was true. That isn't the discussion point. The country was too late in preparing for the onslaught due to reasons that you continue to deny. Now you want to blame the state and those that were trying. Look at the entire picture for the entire story. You won't though.
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You have to stop it...or at least read the articles. Just this weekend, Cuomo said he did not know that the state was forcing nursing homes to accept Covid infected patients...it is proven they let the fox in the hen house. So much for knowing anything...
 
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moe

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None were ever overrun. Jarvis and the Comfort were barely utilized.



That's a lie, that's not what I said.

Imagine had we taken light precautionary steps for the general public, but protected the sick and elderly. The exact opposite of to scare everyone and send the infected back to our most vulnerable.
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I guess you didn't read of people dying on gurneys in hallways before they could get a ventilator. Read some first hand accounts from the front lines during the peak. My "survival" comment is accurate. Why would anyone listen to you anyways like you're some kind of public health professional or other qualified person. The article I posted in another thread throws cold water all over your half baked theories.
 
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moe said:
I guess you didn't read of people dying on gurneys in hallways before they could get a ventilator. Read some first hand accounts from the front lines during the peak. My "survival" comment is accurate. Why would anyone listen to you anyways like you're some kind of public health professional or other qualified person. The article I posted in another thread throws cold water all over your half baked theories.
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They Cherry pick stories and then sensationalize them with a bunch of editorializing and thinks that is a complete picture. Freaking morons. And most of them have denied for months we even had a problem and now say Cuomo didn't handle the problem they used to deny being real. It is dizzying.
 
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moe said:
I guess you didn't read of people dying on gurneys in hallways before they could get a ventilator. Read some first hand accounts from the front lines during the peak. My "survival" comment is accurate. Why would anyone listen to you anyways like you're some kind of public health professional or other qualified person. The article I posted in another thread throws cold water all over your half baked theories.
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I'll take the governor of New York over your lamebrain half-assed anonymous fake news stories.

"have we lost anyone because we didn’t have a bed or we didn’t have a ventilator, or we didn’t have health care staff? No"
 
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moe said:
I guess you didn't read of people dying on gurneys in hallways before they could get a ventilator. Read some first hand accounts from the front lines during the peak. My "survival" comment is accurate. Why would anyone listen to you anyways like you're some kind of public health professional or other qualified person. The article I posted in another thread throws cold water all over your half baked theories.
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100% fake news...people waiting in the hallways waiting for a vent? That happens often...it happened in 2018...it happened in 1998 when our child was born...They had flu patients in the OB wing...that does not mean anything
 
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They Cherry pick stories and then sensationalize them with a bunch of editorializing and thinks that is a complete picture. Freaking morons. And most of them have denied for months we even had a problem and now say Cuomo didn't handle the problem they used to deny being real. It is dizzying.
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moe

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I'll take the governor of New York over your lamebrain half-assed anonymous fake news stories.

"have we lost anyone because we didn’t have a bed or we didn’t have a ventilator, or we didn’t have health care staff? No"
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It's ok, he doesn't have all the details, he's a big picture guy. Please notice that the world had taken another path other than the one you recommend now and that's why they are in charge and you're not. Take a seat.
 
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It's ok, he doesn't have all the details, he's a big picture guy. Please notice that the world had taken another path other than the one you recommend now and that's why they are in charge and you're not. Take a seat.
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So Trump is the greatest now?
 
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moe said:
You're so generous but Trump isn't being criticized for ordering too many supplies and hospital rooms.
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No he just didn't care enough when he ordered them. [eyeroll]
 
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TarHeelEer

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moe said:
It's ok, he doesn't have all the details, he's a big picture guy. Please notice that the world had taken another path other than the one you recommend now and that's why they are in charge and you're not. Take a seat.
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LOL, and moe has left the thread.
 
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bornaneer said:
While New York has weathered the brunt of coronavirus infections and deaths, the state’s apparent hoarding of medical supplies, and the millions spent on equipment that never arrived, as well as unused hospitals and beds, have some questioning what went wrong.

Early to mid-March projections of the spread of COVID-19 had the state scrambling to bolster its hospital bed capacity to more than double its 53,000 maximum status-quo.
In addition to a bevy of state orders, Gov. Andrew Cuomo made desperate overtures to the federal government to step in. In response, and in record time, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers scrambled to erect at least four field hospitals, and the Navy deployed its USNS Comfort hospital ship to Manhattan.

However, those efforts – and the many millions of dollars spent on them – have largely been deemed a waste, even as New York has battled a soaring a death toll and is maintaining stay-at-home orders.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is in the process of shuttering the much-touted, 2,500-bed Javits Center – having treated only around 1,000 patients over the course of more than a month – The Associated Press reported.

On Thursday, the heralded Navy ship – which was equipped with 1,000 beds and intended to take the burden off other hospitals and treat non-coronavirus patients before finally taking on a handful of those with the infection – sailed away, barely used.

The three additional field hospitals Albany spent many millions on erecting in late March are yet to close, despite treating few, and are standing idle in case there is a second wave of the disease.

Construction firms earned $136 million to quickly erect the Stony Brook field hospital – paid for from the Army Corps of Engineers budget.
Another $116.5 million was spent to spring to life a field facility on the Old Westbury campus, complete with top-notch features including hospital-grade welded linoleum floors, multiple layers of insulation, electricity, telephone infrastructure, plumbing, Wi-Fi, showers, bathrooms, and staff common areas.

In April, coronavirus patients at a Brooklyn nursing home were denied admission to both of the medical facilities established in New York to handle victims of the pandemic even though beds were mostly empty. The snub, as highlighted by the New York Post, came weeks after New York health officials were warned by the nursing home operator – where 55 people have died – that there was a grave concern, and requesting patients be transferred to the temporary facilities.
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The USS Comfort treated 187 patients. It's better to err on the side of safety/caution than to be on the other side. Would you rather we have been in a situation where we were deciding which patients would get to use a ventilator and which ones would not? I shouldn't even have to say this.

********, you're one dumb son of a *****!
 
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countryroads89 said:
The USS Comfort treated 187 patients. It's better to err on the side of safety/caution than to be on the other side. Would you rather we have been in a situation where we were deciding which patients would get to use a ventilator and which ones would not? I shouldn't even have to say this.

********, you're one dumb son of a *****!
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Funny how whackos are attacking this. We prepared for the worst and things turned out better than expected. This is just good planning.
 
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WVUBRU

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bamaEER said:
Funny how whackos are attacking this. We prepared for the worst and things turned out better than expected. This is just good planning.
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It is amazing how political they are while calling people like us as being political hacks when all we do is state facts.. They can't even celebrate the successes.
 
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moe said:
I guess you didn't read of people dying on gurneys in hallways before they could get a ventilator. Read some first hand accounts from the front lines during the peak. My "survival" comment is accurate. Why would anyone listen to you anyways like you're some kind of public health professional or other qualified person. The article I posted in another thread throws cold water all over your half baked theories.
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Nobody died waiting for a ventilator in America. That is a filthy fuking lie.
 
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countryroads89 said:
The USS Comfort treated 187 patients. It's better to err on the side of safety/caution than to be on the other side. Would you rather we have been in a situation where we were deciding which patients would get to use a ventilator and which ones would not? I shouldn't even have to say this.

********, you're one dumb son of a *****!
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It would help if you read the story before you comment. Same goes for that passive aggressive **** stain riding your cock in the likes.
 
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countryroads89 said:
The USS Comfort treated 187 patients. It's better to err on the side of safety/caution than to be on the other side. Would you rather we have been in a situation where we were deciding which patients would get to use a ventilator and which ones would not? I shouldn't even have to say this.

********, you're one dumb son of a *****!
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Calm down Frances......I only posted some verifiable facts......In hindsight.......there was monumental waste.
Good Lord man....get a grip on yourself.
 
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WVUBRU

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Here is how a good politician would position this story instead of having their worshipers calling it a "waste".

The president would say based on the leadership and coordination with the governor of NY and NJ, the number of cases were leveled off in a much quicker timeline and the projected need of additional hospital beds were not needed. I am very proud of my administration and all those involved that responded to my call to action to get the Navy ship in the harbor of our greatest and most vibrant city in preparation of the worst possible scenario. But thank goodness plan A worked very well and the additional beds were not needed. Always remember, I am here for all the citizens as we keep winning these battles.
 
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moe

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bornaneer said:
Yes.....especially when you post. I believe in cutting to the chase.
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Are you doing a tour of the 50 states or are you just obsessed with NY/Cuomo who is "guilty" of being overprepared due to forecasts?
 
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moe said:
Are you doing a tour of the 50 states or are you just obsessed with NY/Cuomo who is "guilty" of being overprepared due to forecasts?
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You call 24,944 deaths being "over-prepared".....laughable.
But...as I have said many times before......I think Cuomo is doing the best he can....he may have been a little slow on doing some things. It's your and your ilks double standard that is beyond belief.
 
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moe

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bornaneer said:
You call 24,944 deaths being "over-prepared".....laughable.
But...as I have said many times before......I think Cuomo is doing the best he can....he may have been a little slow on doing some things. It's your and your ilks double standard that is beyond belief.
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You're the one complaining about money spent there on preparedness.
 
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LMAO at schMoe mischaracterizing sheer panic as "preparedness." You should take your **** on the road, schMoe.

[laughing]
 
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moe said:
You're the one complaining about money spent there on preparedness.
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I never complained ..........I simply pointed out some "waste" of resources.......plus I never said it was all on Cuomo except for paying triple the amount for ventilators that he never received.
 
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