I normally don’t like when people bash players either but who has bashed WG in this thread? Which comments/ posters are you referring to?
Wenyen messaging recruit
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I normally don’t like when people bash players either but who has bashed WG in this thread? Which comments/ posters are you referring to?
Matt didn’t really throw it in the air to be discussed. Did you listen to the podcast? (Not being combative, genuinely asking) he said it in passing for like a very brief moment in regards to another question.
It says “messaging” and not “massaging”.
this is important context.
this is important context.
Yea, if you want to know the full story get it from the "bird-man of south Broadway"
The intent and the result are 2 different things. It shouldn't be brought up now and if you throw it out there, it's going to be discussed. This fanbase is too rabid for it not to be and the proof is the fact this thread exists now.
This topic was a Spring/Summer thing, highly overblown and since it took place Gabriel helped with information with a big time recruit. Time to move on. Just think when someone has the forum/format that guy has, it's not very wise to drum up old news, especially with intense recruiting battles going on and Fall Signing Period 3 weeks away.
Just my two cents.
Wenyen told McDaniel that his first conversation with Cal he told him that he was a 6'10 shooting guard. Don't fall in love with his words. He told him if you're not ready to do it day one, you're just gonna end up being a skinny big man there. If your handle is shaky he wont let you dribble, he just wants you to catch and shoot. That'll make you feel handicapped. Yada yada yada...
This thread makes me dislike WG. Wish I wouldn't have read it
I think, in time, Gabriel will regret it. He's probably not going to be a long-term player in the NBA. This state can be very good to former players. I doubt he gets those perks, now.
If that turned away a recruit then good.
Also jokes on wenyen. The only person who doesn't come out negative in that story is Cal
I think Wenyen was a little too busy dangling his pole in the lily pond his freshmen year at UK. Worked a little harder his sophomore year. He got serious and has worked his *** off the last couple years, which is why he’s now on a roster.
At the end of the day Wenyen thought he was talking in private to someone. Not the smartest thing to do to type it if you don't want it to become public.
That said he probably isn't the first or last to say anything negative about Cal.
I first saw this post like 2 months ago when a trusted person shared. At first it pissed me off, now it is kinda like whatever. If McDaniels is that scared of having to work his *** off to get on the court, who cares anyway.
That said he probably isn't the first or last to say anything negative about Cal.
I first saw this post like 2 months ago when a trusted person shared. At first it pissed me off, now it is kinda like whatever. If McDaniels is that scared of having to work his *** off to get on the court, who cares anyway.
Why would you dislike him for giving someone real advice? This basketball thing has a huge implications on their lives, it's just entertainment for us fans. Wenyen just told him real stuff from his perspective about his experience.
There's enough Kentucky NBA players to go around that if I have to drop a few, I wouldn't mind.
Committing an actual crime aside.. slandering UK and hindering our recruiting might be the worst offense.
Committing an actual crime aside.. slandering UK and hindering our recruiting might be the worst offense.
I totally see both perspectives.
For me what Kyle Macy said was way worse because he made it public. Now most recruits these days probably didn't hear Kyle or know who he is, whereas they probably do know of Wenyen.
However, again Wenyen tried to do this in private...whereas Macy didn't, that is a big difference to me.
Then again, both are a form of treason...ha.
If wenyen said this then heck with him! That’s a bunch of BULL!
Gabriel had plenty of chances to prove himself. He was a turnover machine and played no defense
I will say I think its funny MJ mentioned it bc he read a certain post on here. Gotta look like he's in the know
What exactly about his perspective about his experience is a bunch of bull?
that’s not even close to true. Based on his skill set coming out of HS, the major time and shots he would have gotten at other schools and his ranking plus mock drafts having him drafted, your comment is far from the truth
I agree. It would be reason enough for me as a program to never let him come around. This could be a reason as to why we've lost some recruits, players badmouthing the coach. I hope not.
Oh stop, “huge implications?” He wouldn’t have been a lottery pick at UK? Please....
I personally don’t have any issues with what Gabriel said, assuming it was really him. He’s entitled to his opinion and his opinion really isn’t that different from many of the things Cal tells recruits himself. Playing for UK is a great opportunity, but it’s hard and isn’t for everyone.
But for anyone who does take issue with it, I’d say this. UK has been a dominant force in college basketball for nearly 90 years. I think we can survive a bad review from Wenyen Gabriel. To each their own, but this just doesn’t seem like something worth getting upset over to me.
But for anyone who does take issue with it, I’d say this. UK has been a dominant force in college basketball for nearly 90 years. I think we can survive a bad review from Wenyen Gabriel. To each their own, but this just doesn’t seem like something worth getting upset over to me.
That said he probably isn't the first or last to say anything negative about Cal.
I first saw this post like 2 months ago when a trusted person shared. At first it pissed me off, now it is kinda like whatever. If McDaniels is that scared of having to work his *** off to get on the court, who cares anyway.[/QUOTE]
Cant believe I missed this story first time around
I first saw this post like 2 months ago when a trusted person shared. At first it pissed me off, now it is kinda like whatever. If McDaniels is that scared of having to work his *** off to get on the court, who cares anyway.[/QUOTE]
Cant believe I missed this story first time around
He would have been exposed even more so with more shots. Wenyen just wasn’t that good of a basketball player. He had no ball skills, low b-ball iq, and we now know an inflated perception of his own ability. Those things don’t typically equate to making an nba roster unless you can get someone to pull some strings for you.
I will say duke could have pulled some of those strings as well. But he probably gets even less playing time at duke as a freshman behind Jason Tatum. And he’s a 6th man at best again the next season. And those were supposedly his final 2.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence so many of our guys get picked up by the same teams either.
Well if true then it probably cost us McDaniels. That’s the main reason.
Cal will always prepare you for the next level and proved it with Wenyen. Wenyen could have been a special player if he could had better handles. If he would've gone anywhere else he would still be playing college ball or overseas and not in the NBA. It sounds like he is a little ungrateful for the opportunity that he gained from playing for Kentucky to me......
Oh look, a strawman on Cats Illustrated. Yall can't disagree with anyone without attributing comments that the other person didn't make. I dont know if he would be a lottery pick here or or not, I didn't say or imply that he would or wouldn't. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't, Skal wasn't and he was ranked higher than McDaniels. That's not even the point, the point is these kids lives are more important than your entertainment, and let's be clear, that's what these kids are to you.
Wenyen had a connection to him and told him about his experience here. Yall dont even know if that had any influence on his decision or not.
Fair or not, but if you think you’re good enough to go pro after one year, you better suck up the criticism and produce at a high level
I agree that Cal does not, and should not, look bad here. He's very transparent in that if you don't do the basic things, hell if you aren't very good in general, then with the amount of talent you will stick out like a sore thumb.
Having said that, what WG did was wrong and shows no class. He did turn away a recruit, and it's the sort of thing that can spread in inner circles. Opposing coaches would love that crap and to show a recruit a printed copy of the text dm's from WG.
Not sure that's true. He was trying to give honest advice based on his experience here, it wasn't out of malice because he just wanted to hurt UK.
The fact is not all of of our players are gonna be happy with their time here, and Wenyen apparently is unhappy with how Cal used him. The dissatisfied players are just as free to later discuss their experience here as the satisfied ones. And there's nothing inherently "wrong" about them doing so.
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I know you only care about your entertainment and not these kids lives. That's why you're big mad.