We should shoot 50 plus threes a game

BigBlueMasterpiece

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40% is a very high percentage, and is unattainable if shooting so many. Certainly, player can hit that shooting percentage, but to throw-up forty 3s would certainly be forcing some - resulting a lower percentage attempts.
And if a team becomes so reliant on the arc, the defense will follow. So the shots will either be taken away or guarded. The latter will also lower that percentage considerably .
So, no - i dont think it is doable.
If we hit 3s at a 40% clip out of the gate I'd imagine it would bring the defense further out and take pressure off the post or at the least spread the floor out more. But 40% at any shot rate may be optimistic.
 
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All teams that shoot a ton of 3s other than Nova are bad teams. They shoot that many 3s because hey maybe shots fall one game and they knock someone off lol.

It’s not the way to win lol.

If you want fast tempo and lots of 3s watch the citadel play. Sure it’s exciting but it’s not very effective at all which is why they are ranked in the 300s
 
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Out of curiosity I looked up Golden State Warriors 3pt attempts per game from last season. They averaged 29.4 3pt attempts per game. And that’s in a 48 minute game, versus a 40 minute college game. To suggest 50 attempts a game in college is utter nonsense.
 

TortElvisII

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Out of curiosity I looked up Golden State Warriors 3pt attempts per game from last season. They averaged 29.4 3pt attempts per game. And that’s in a 48 minute game, versus a 40 minute college game. To suggest 50 attempts a game in college is utter nonsense.

Why don't you do some research on the distance of the NBA 3 versus The College??
 

TortElvisII

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I know some of your reading skills are weak but I didn't know they were this weak. I am suggesting doing this the next few games. As you get against better competition this will be curtailed. The hope of doing this is to make us a better 3-point shooting team down the line.
 

Stonewall12

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We are a good shooting team, probably one of Cal’s best, but we have no business shooting 30+ threes a game. Maybe 20 at the most. Reid, PJ, and EJ are too good in the post. We gotta feed them. The prerequisite to that is getting them good touches. That’s our biggest flaw in offense right now, that and turnovers.
They are?

Humph I been watching different games.


They may be alright later but so far... Naw
 
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MWes11

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I do agree with the pressing. With the athletes and depth we have on this roster, no reason we shouldn't be pressuring full court, at least during spurts of the game. Run and jump, trapping all over the place. Will give up some easy buckets at times, but will create total havoc and chaos for opponents. 40 minutes of hell style.
 
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Savannah St, Belmont, The Citadel, Washington St., Elon, Davidson, Quinnipac, Coppin St., Pittsburgh, Mount St. Marys, New Mexico, Villanova, Rice, Furman, Marist, Fordham, Central Michigan, Akron, Princeton, UMKC

That's the list of the Top 20 teams last season that took the highest % of their shots from 3.

Outside of Nova, is there anyone on this list you want UK to model their offense after?

I didn't know think so.

Villanova shot over 40% from 3. I can't remember the last time a UK team shot over 40%.

This only works if you have the shooters to do it.
 

TortElvisII

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Savannah St, Belmont, The Citadel, Washington St., Elon, Davidson, Quinnipac, Coppin St., Pittsburgh, Mount St. Marys, New Mexico, Villanova, Rice, Furman, Marist, Fordham, Central Michigan, Akron, Princeton, UMKC

That's the list of the Top 20 teams last season that took the highest % of their shots from 3.

Outside of Nova, is there anyone on this list you want UK to model their offense after?

I didn't know think so.

Villanova shot over 40% from 3. I can't remember the last time a UK team shot over 40%.

This only works if you have the shooters to do it.

Are you suggesting UK will lose against VMI if we shoot a lot of threes?

We need to have the 3 as more of a weapon.

Your list works for your argument until you put Villanova on there.
 
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Cowtown Cat

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We are a good shooting team, probably one of Cal’s best, but we have no business shooting 30+ threes a game. Maybe 20 at the most. Reid, PJ, and EJ are too good in the post. We gotta feed them. The prerequisite to that is getting them good touches. That’s our biggest flaw in offense right now, that and turnovers.
This.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Gurantee you Duke won't go to the F4? I won't watch another game? I'll watch every single minute of the Final 4, regardless of who's playing in it and I won't spend the season moping around as if Duke is God. Good grief man, get a hold of yourself.
Yeah, this duke **** is flat out ridiculous.
 
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502 Wildcat

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You make a good point here.
It is a uniquely constructed team in the sense that you have a few guys who are good on the blocks, but take up space in an offense predicated on spacing, getting into the lane and finding shooters.
Cal is having to adjust to the personnel and you will see a few new/different sets from prior years.

Agreed.

It worked in 09 with Cousins and Patterson in the post. Granted, Reid/PJ/EJ are not as good as Cousins, but not many people are.

The difference here is that this team has better shooters than that 09 team. By a long shot.

If we figure things out, get our rotation settled, and the guards start getting the bigs better quality touches in the paint, I think it will open things up quite a bit.

Reid and PJ can shoot it too. That adds a completely different dynamic to our attack.
 
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Are you suggesting will lose against VMI if we shoot a lot of threes?

We need to have the 3 as more of a weapon.

Your list works for your argument until you put Villanova on there.

No it really doesn't. Cause unless you can shoot like Villanova does (and we can't) it doesn't matter.

Plus another thing about Villanova is not only did they shoot well from 3 but they also made 59% of their twos and did not turn the ball over at all.

I don't disagree about using the 3 ball more as a weapon. I just think you're being a bit extreme about it.


The bottom line is 2 point shots are more consistent than 3s.

In March where it's one loss and you are done, do you really want to bet on us shooting a higher % from 3 6 games in a row? I sure don't.

My list illustrates that's why you don't see power conference teams taking that approach.
 
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TortElvisII

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And nothing like winning a national championship. Get a life. People like you live and die basketball. Go back to your mommy's basement.

Is pretty amazing what you can do when you have a generational once in 25 year player. You can over coach and still win.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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Is pretty amazing what you can do when you have a generational once in 25 year player. You can over coach and still win.
And it would not matter how many championships Cal won there would always be negative fans like you. You should go pull for Louisville. They seem to be your kind of people. Maybe you actually are a Louisville fan. The Cards have no championships in decades. You could be a great inspiration to them.
 

TortElvisII

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And it would not matter how many championships Cal won there would always be negative fans like you. You should go pull for Louisville. They seem to be your kind of people. Maybe you actually are a Louisville fan. The Cards have no championships in decades. You could be a great inspiration to them.

[roll]

Let's have a trivia contest about UK basketball.
 

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Shooting 50 3's a game doesn't make much sense when you go 10 for 50. Not sure we have enough shooters for all that. lol
 

TortElvisII

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Shooting 50 3's a game doesn't make much sense when you go 10 for 50. Not sure we have enough shooters for all that. lol
I’m guessing that would take us out of the running for Carey or any big man for that matter lol

They can rebound.

Every big man I've ever seen wants to shoot threes anyway. PJ can shoot ten a game, Reid can shoot 6 a game.

Again this is during the Little Sisters of the Poor portion of our schedule.
 
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Why would we implement this while playing scrub teams and then have no plans on using it in the future? Seems like a waste of time.

We have to use these games to figure out stuff that can be used when we get into SEC games.
 

TortElvisII

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Why would we implement this while playing scrub teams and then have no plans on using it in the future? Seems like a waste of time.

We have to use these games to figure out stuff that can be used when we get into SEC games.

We won't. We will continue to have a coach scream go as we slow the game down.

Having varying offenses makes you harder to scout. The early Pitino teams played this way.
 
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Omg!! This team is horrible at the 3 ball. PJ will never shoot like that again in a game that matters. Tyler Herro is nowhere near Jamaal, Doron, Devin or even Aaron. Herro is Jon Hood 2.0.