We dont pay!!

usinfantrycat85

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I have seen people post old crap. I dont know if they are trolling or just like posting old crap. So let me make it clear, we at UK dont pay kids ****!!!, Zion, kobe, lebron, MJ...it does not matter.. We have taken a hit on recruiting for a reason..if you want a couple thousand for 1 year take your *** somewhere else...its that simple. We dint pay kids chump change...WE ARE KENTUCKY, We make MILLIONAIRES...
 

jedwar

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Son_Of_Saul

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No one has a clue who's paying what at this point.

But I know it makes our fans sleep easier at night thinking we're doing things "the right way."

I'm still in favor of hanging an ethics banner for every year we don't have the #1 recruiting class. After all, the only reason we ever get beat in recruiting is because the other guys cheat, right?
 

KingOfBBN

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I’m sure Duke and UNC fans (and every fan base out there) doesn’t think their team is doing anything wrong.

Most on here probably doesn’t think Alabama and Saban have done anything wrong either.

I think a lot of our fans would have their realities rocked if they were actually around college athletics instead of simply watching it on TV.
 

TankedCat

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I think the best we can hope for is coming out unscathed in this whole mess.

If there is a silver lining in all of it , this will put a spotlight on Duke and Kansas to the extent they'll be hesitant to line up all these handlers outside the coaches door.
 
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MNantz

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I think the best we can hope for is coming out unscathed in this whole mess.

If there is a silver lining in all of it , this will put a spotlight on Duke and Kansas to the extent they'll be hesitant to line up all these handlers outside the coaches door.
Make's no difference what kind of light that Rat Faced Bastard at Dook is under there will nothing done to him or that pompous *** school to tarnish his legacy. The Rug Doctor on the other hand is not held in quite that high of regard, he and Izzo are the next rung down on the protected list.
 
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TankedCat

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Make's no difference what kind of light that Rat Faced Bastard at Dook is under there will nothing done to him or that pompous *** school to tarnish his legacy. The Rug Doctor on the other had is not held in quite that high of regard, he and Izzo are the next rung down on the protected list.

at this point though, Coach K has been asked publicly twice about players being steered to school and being paid, along with Vanetti dumping on twitter about Duke and Zion to the extent that Duke is doing an internal investigation.

Now I have no expectation that anything comes from that, *but* this attention is certainly unwanted by Duke and if they are getting cash into the hands of parents /handlers or players, someone is going to notice. They'd be foolish to be cavalier about continuing this.

It may not mean that Kentucky is the beneficiary of it but I'd be surprised to see Duke continue to dominate recruiting starting with the class of 2021.
 

TopCatCal

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I’m sure Duke and UNC fans (and every fan base out there) doesn’t think their team is doing anything wrong.

Most on here probably doesn’t think Alabama and Saban have done anything wrong either.

I think a lot of our fans would have their realities rocked if they were actually around college athletics instead of simply watching it on TV.
Duke & UNC aren't doing anything wrong by paying players. It's not against the rules for them to do so. It's just against the rules for the rest of college basketball to do so.
 
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GonzoCat90

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Did we used to? Because we used to be getting all these guys, and I don't think the shoe companies and agents just discovered college basketball.
 

FrankUnderwood

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Did we used to? Because we used to be getting all these guys, and I don't think the shoe companies and agents just discovered college basketball.


I don’t believe so. I think it’s the case of more (and random) schools recruiting elite O&D’s as to before (Cals first several years) when it was pretty much only UK and KU and sorta Duke.

Now you have freaking Oklahoma, Zona, Vanderbilt, Cal??, Nevada , LSU, Indiana, Auburn, UNLV, UGA, etc recruiting and landing the elite one and dones.

I also, absolutely believe (as it’s been proven by facts) that Duke , Zona and others are cheating to obtain these players.
 

GonzoCat90

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I don’t believe so. I think it’s the case of more (and random) schools recruiting elite O&D’s as to before (Cals first several years) when it was pretty much only UK and KU and sorta Duke.

Now you have freaking Oklahoma, Zona, Vanderbilt, Cal??, Nevada , LSU, Indiana, Auburn, UNLV, UGA, etc recruiting and landing the elite one and dones.

I also, absolutely believe (as it’s been proven by facts) that Duke , Zona and others are cheating to obtain these players.

I agree that there are programs we *know* are cheating. I'm just saying that none of this is a new issue for college basketball, and if the kids have always had their hand out, we used to be landing a lot of them.

It's the Zion issue, really. We apparently know he was for sale. We know KU was willing to pay. So everyone thinks there's no way he went to Duke for free.

So if that's true, and Player X was looking for money, did *all* of them come to Kentucky for free?

Basically, I'm saying the logic we try to apply to these situations is faulty. If you keep it consistent, we're dirty too. Or else you can try and find a rationale for why all the other situations are different and those schools didn't cheat either. The blanket statements don't work.
 

TankedCat

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Either you believe kids were going to Memphis to play for Cal over UNC, Duke, Kansas and Kentucky (with Gillispie I believe it) or there was another reason they were spurning established blueblood programs to play for a conference USA nobody.
 

GonzoCat90

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Either you believe kids were going to Memphis to play for Cal over UNC, Duke, Kansas and Kentucky (with Gillispie I believe it) or there was another reason they were spurning established blueblood programs to play for a conference USA nobody.

A lot of the kids he was landing weren't choosing Memphis over the bluebloods though. He was taking lower rated guys.

The five stars he was getting often had red flags. He was the best coach/school willing to take them, and his style unleashed their abilities and let them make plays. A lot of schools wouldn't or couldn't touch Tyreke Evans or Derrick Rose.

Now, was he having to pay to beat out the other schools that *would* recruit them? Or the guys he was beating other midmajors for? Depends on how dirty you believe college basketball to be.
 

Big_Blue_1018

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Every school bends the rules to play. To think other wise is stupid. If you truly believe that UK is perfectly clean, I have some ocean property to sell you.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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IMO Kentucky is as clean as it gets, and I am a KU fan.

NOT a hint of Shenanigans since the WWW stuff.

“WWW stuff?” Lol

Well that doesn’t mean much coming from a self admitted KU fan who still refuses to admit their coach and program cheated despite facts.
 
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TheDude73

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I think the best we can hope for is coming out unscathed in this whole mess.

If there is a silver lining in all of it , this will put a spotlight on Duke and Kansas to the extent they'll be hesitant to line up all these handlers outside the coaches door.
If somehow we were involved, it would have come out LONG ago simply because it's Calipari and it's Kentucky. The fact that nothing at all has come out regarding Calipari (sans weak attempts by hack writers trying to throw our name into the fray) should make most of us sleep pretty well, particularly given the enormous amount of info we're hearing about from these FBI stories.
 

Montana81

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I agree that there are programs we *know* are cheating. I'm just saying that none of this is a new issue for college basketball, and if the kids have always had their hand out, we used to be landing a lot of them.

It's the Zion issue, really. We apparently know he was for sale. We know KU was willing to pay. So everyone thinks there's no way he went to Duke for free.

So if that's true, and Player X was looking for money, did *all* of them come to Kentucky for free?

Basically, I'm saying the logic we try to apply to these situations is faulty. If you keep it consistent, we're dirty too. Or else you can try and find a rationale for why all the other situations are different and those schools didn't cheat either. The blanket statements don't work.

Cal was the first to openly advertise his program as a one and done destination. Not only did we not have to pay, but the promise or even merely just the idea of being the quickest path to doing it for themselves was likely(imo) enough for these kids to pass on whatever dollar amounts or extra benefits other programs were offering for them to play there for 3 and 4 years before doing so.
 
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GonzoCat90

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Cal was the first to openly advertise his program as a one and done destination. Not only did we not have to pay, but the promise or even merely just the idea of being the quickest path to doing it for themselves was likely(imo) enough for these kids to pass on whatever dollar amounts or extra benefits other programs were offering for them to play there for 3 and 4 years before doing so.

There were definitely guys early on that we would take that others didn't want, and there were definitely guys even early on that Cal wouldn't touch despite their talent.

But that kind of context has to be applied to other teams too. Duke is selling their high profile program and arguably the greatest coach of all time, plus the team USA connection, plus high draft picks. Do we think Zion passed on one year of cash/housing because he'll be mega rich in one season?
 

CatfanMike47

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There were definitely guys early on that we would take that others didn't want, and there were definitely guys even early on that Cal wouldn't touch despite their talent.

But that kind of context has to be applied to other teams too. Duke is selling their high profile program and arguably the greatest coach of all time, plus the team USA connection, plus high draft picks. Do we think Zion passed on one year of cash/housing because he'll be mega rich in one season?
Do you honestly believe he went to Duke for nothing? I don’t!
 

Lovebaskelball

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Smart coaches do not pay for players but players get paid. Players have been getting paid forever. Football makes basketball look like Boy Scouts.
 
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