We didn't built it big enough.

[SheltonChoked]

Wait, are you admitting that there might actually be a demand for GA chairbacks?

Yeah for maybe 4 weekends a year.

But try a thursday night SEC game, or a midweek day game. you can get a GA and sit just about anywhere.

And the Athletic department still has the $$ from the season ticket holder.

 

[patdog]

Because we went cheap on a major project. It would have cost a little more to do it right.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

When we do, they will not be GA tickets. They will be season tickets with a Bulldog club donation required to get the tickets.

Adding a GA section is stupid from a $$$ standpoint.

We could build a stadium that sat 65,000 and still fill it up for 1-3 weekends a year (super bulldog, NCAA regional, NCAA super regional), but building it would never pay for itself

I would add chairbacks and sell them as season tickets and then the ones that don’t get sold will be available for single game purchase, just like football does. Obviously sell the single game tickets that didn’t get sold as season tickets (if there are any left) at a higher price on sec weekends. When the stadium was built we were a very good program but since then we have been to multiple World Series and are poised to make a 3rd trip since the season ticket options were available for the new field. Demand is as high as it is ever going to get right now. I’ve heard enough people that know say we are going to expand to feel comfortable that we could sell at least another 1500 season tickets if they were available. I don’t think the administration did anything wrong when they built the stadium I just think we are growing and now need more room. I’m not a fan of the berms, but that’s a pretty minor complaint.

 

[Go Budaw]

And this is simply explained. During Super regionals WE HAVE to PAY the NCAA based on the attendance recorded. Not so during the regular season.
YES there was more than 13k there for the Clemson SR... they came in after the 6th inning (or maybe 4th) when the takers stopped checking tickets. I was at both of these games and can verify that by many people I talked to that day at the Clemson SR.. including staff of the athletics dept.

I still believe there were MORE there vs Mississippi than Clemson though... it was just another level of crazyiness. the Super Regional was amazing but sucked because it was 95-100 degrees with full sun and noone could move.

No, we pay the NCAA an amount that is roughly proportional to the number of tickets sold (or what is expected to be sold at the time we put in our bid). The NCAA doesn’t give a **** exactly how many people are actually in the stadium. A ticket sold is money in their pocket regardless if the buyer sits in his seat for all 6 games or if he lights the damn things on fire right after buying them.

To that end, the NCAA doesn’t even care about tickets sold in the micro sense, either. They simply demand that we payout what we bid for hosting the regional. The notion that the NCAA is closely monitoring the accuracy of attendance counts at any location is just nonsense.

 

[Go Budaw]

While I don’t believe we should have built for 12k, we should have aimed for about 8k. There are plenty of crowds in that range. When I say design for 8k, I mean a person should have a real seat and be able to go piss and get a burger in less than a half inning.

That’s a typical SEC weekend with nice weather. We didn’t design for it, but there is room to grow. We need to focus on that and not another “Motel 6”.

Totally agree. The old stadium had actual permanent seats for 7,100 (excluding the outfield). The new one has seats for about 5,800-6,000 even when you include the outfield. It’s just straight up illogical that we’d sink $80 million into something that seats at least 10-15% fewer people than the previous stadium.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Cheap? Man you have some hot takes.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

Took my family of four saturday

and that won't happen again without reserved seating.....it was absolutely miserable.....Personally, I can attend a game like that....but that is impossible to take a family too.....my wife mentioned how "uncomfortable" DNF felt but it was "fantastic atmosphere"....(minor disclaimer is that she is UM grad and loves UM baseball)

I was miserable with two kids and wife without seating....we left after T5....the game had something to do with it too...

 

[Dogsincebirth]

The level of small minded Templeton-era thinking from both our AD and most of the people on this board is mind-boggling. We could have easily been selling 2,000 more season tickets per year for the last 3 years now.

I disagree with your comment about the “small minded Templeton era thinking” Before the design for the new baseball stadium was finalized our athletics department gave State fans a chance to make a financial commitment which would have influenced the design and seating capacity of our new stadium. The stadium was designed and built based on the response that was received. Don’t blame the MSU administration. Blame the fans who were not willing to make that financial commitment.

 

[ronpolk]

I disagree with your comment about the “small minded Templeton era thinking” Before the design for the new baseball stadium was finalized our athletics department gave State fans a chance to make a financial commitment which would have influenced the design and seating capacity of our new stadium. The stadium was designed and built based on the response that was received. Don’t blame the MSU administration. Blame the fans who were not willing to make that financial commitment.

Maybe I’m wrong but I think that is not a good way to design the size of a stadium. Why would we build a stadium that had 0% chance for season ticket growth? We didn’t do that with football.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Adding “bleachers” would be a bad move too.

 

[SheltonChoked]

It would seem that an upper deck down each foul line with an SRO deck area on the suites level shouldn't be terribly expensive. If you wanted to sell the seats to season ticket holders, you'd still have more SRO area. Even that could be converted to suites down the road if necessary. Even if all of those seats converted to season tickets, there's still more availability for GA people through the exchange.

Additionally, what about some sort of mini-plan similar to what's done in football? I think it just takes a little creativity to figure out how to sell tickets.

As for the "what will people think if they see empty seats on TV" argument, that's a load of bull crap being sold by the people who don't want others to get to see a game because they didn't pay their dues. The only people stumbling on games on Watch ESPN are MSU fans and if they see empty seats on their TV screen, it just might motivate them to go to a game or two.

I live over 3 hours from Starkville and there's just now way I can do season tickets. So basically, if some people have their way, I'm limited to off peak games and trying to scrounge tickets through resale.

Maybe one day I'll be able to retire closer to the school and enjoy more games.

The only reason football ( or any other place that sells tickets) sells single game tickets, mini-packs, etc. is THEY DON'T SELL OUT ALL THE SEATS AS SEASON TICKETS.

MSU Baseball does. We could rebuild the Dude for 15,000, and still not have GA. You know why? Because 30-50% of the existing ticket holders would buy more seats if the required donation was lower, or if they could. And I'd bet 10% of the guys on this thread bitching would too.

There is the same discussion every year for super bulldog weekend. If it was a real "problem", we'd see y'all bitching on February 28th.

But building a baseball stadium for 1-3 weekends a year would be like you having a 15 bedroom house so your whole family can come over for Christmas.

 

[SheltonChoked]

I still can’t quite wrap my mind around why we left the dugout orientation the way it was instead of tearing that up and starting over. It’s going to make expanding down the foul line very difficult. Must have been a cost thing, but it would have been well worth the expense from a sight line standpoint.

The only way to expand chairbacks will be to do the upper decks as someone else pointed out, but that will only add a limited number of seats. It’s a great park, but that was a shortsighted mistake.

Because we wanted to be able to play baseball on campus in 2018. It takes time and a lot more $$$ to rebuild to the foundation. If we'd done what you are suggesting, we would have had to relocate Dudy Noble (Probably to South Farm.) or played the whole 2018 season somewhere else.

 

[8dog]

GA chairbacks is the worst concept anyone has raised. How do you explain that to the people you asked for a financial committment for season tickets from? Is it even a financial gain? Additionally, at some point someone will go to the university and offer to pay a large amount for those GA chairbacks to be their season tickets. Thats exactly what happened with the Trip Crown chairbacks.

 

[SheltonChoked]

If it was "every SEC game" in Baseball, you would have a great point.

But it is not. It's 1-3 weekends a year.

We don't see people saying "BULLDOZE THE SEAL BUILDING" when we sell out ONE SEC game every year, Why is baseball different?

 

[SheltonChoked]

....that won't commit to any certain date or block of time. Just a general, "when I want to bring my wife, 2 year old, wheelchair grandma, and long lost drunk brother, pEoPlEs UnIvErSiTy wont give me a SeATZZ for 8 bUcKs!!111". If you want a seat, pay the price. You can ALWAYS get a ticket (outside of COVID restrictions). So, the GA people are absolutely accommodated.

There aren't hordes of fans clamoring for season tickets, which is what all sports programs build stadiums to accommodate.

I want to have a suite on the 50 yard line without the sun in my face for the Bama game for my family, for $10 a ticket and mean ol' MSU is too greedy to leave it availible for me.*****

 

[ronpolk]

If it was "every SEC game" in Baseball, you would have a great point.

But it is not. It's 1-3 weekends a year.

We don't see people saying "BULLDOZE THE SEAL BUILDING" when we sell out ONE SEC game every year, Why is baseball different?

Because football has the ability to sell more season tickets. Baseball does not, or at least chairback season tickets.

 

[Xenomorph]

While cheap may be an overstatement.. he's not wrong. The dugouts were left in place for financial reasons. And it had consequences.

That was a watershed decision which dictated nearly every other design element of the main structure. You can see one by-product when you look at the slope of the grandstand... most notably how the cast stone caps change angles after the first few rows.

The dugouts dictated the slope of the seats, which in turn dictated how many rows of grandstand could fit in the amount of rise/run we had at our disposal before the elevation of the entrances became awkward. That resulted in a couple of rows being shaved off the upper and lower decks.. otherwise it simply would've been too tall. 1,200 chairs were sacrificed right there.

Leaving the dugouts and first 3 rows also squashed the plans for the Triple Crown Club to have windows facing the field. After floating that idea to potential customers, it was realized the headroom was much too low if the rows were left in place so a business decision was made. It resulted in no viewing from inside.

Very early rough drawings removed the dugouts completely and moved the backstop back 15 feet from it's current location. That would have resulted in viewing angles positioned more toward home plate and put more chairs in the stadium.. but it would have been a larger structure that didn't fit very well between the hump and the baseball office (another item left in place that caused headaches).

Is it the finest stadium in college baseball? Unequivocally, yes. But let's not act like it was built with a blank check and without compromises.

 

[johnson86-1]

GA chairbacks is the worst concept anyone has raised. How do you explain that to the people you asked for a financial committment for season tickets from? Is it even a financial gain? Additionally, at some point someone will go to the university and offer to pay a large amount for those GA chairbacks to be their season tickets. Thats exactly what happened with the Trip Crown chairbacks.

GA chairbacks is ridiculous. But some GA seating is not ridiculous. Some GA seating down one or both foul lines would increase our capacity a good bit for not much cost. Hell, right now, we could probably sell season tickets for reserved bleacher seating, and if we can, we should. If we do that, then that's fine, but it's somewhat ridiculous to have room for GA seating and not provide any at all. We want it as easy as possible for younger fans to enjoy big time atmosphere games, even if it's never going to be easy. It might be that season ticket demand sucks up additional bleacher seating or that GA seating gets filled 2.5 hours before opening pitch, in which case, you're still not going to be able to take a family there, and that will be fine. It will still provide a better option on maybe a thursday or sunday SEC game or an SEC weekend that's not a marquee matchup.

 

[johnson86-1]

I disagree with your comment about the “small minded Templeton era thinking” Before the design for the new baseball stadium was finalized our athletics department gave State fans a chance to make a financial commitment which would have influenced the design and seating capacity of our new stadium. The stadium was designed and built based on the response that was received. Don’t blame the MSU administration. Blame the fans who were not willing to make that financial commitment.

I don't think our administration did a good job of communicating to people that there would be no GA seating and no reasonable chance to get season tickets after construction. I've just heard too many people surprised by that fact to think they did a good job with communicating that. Probably wouldn't have mattered for most people, but I'm sure there are some that would have been willing to go ahead and pony up if they had realized that the ten year commitment on seat fees was basically going to lock them out for ten years or until the next expansion.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

GA chairbacks is ridiculous. But some GA seating is not ridiculous. Some GA seating down one or both foul lines would increase our capacity a good bit for not much cost. Hell, right now, we could probably sell season tickets for reserved bleacher seating, and if we can, we should. If we do that, then that's fine, but it's somewhat ridiculous to have room for GA seating and not provide any at all. We want it as easy as possible for younger fans to enjoy big time atmosphere games, even if it's never going to be easy. It might be that season ticket demand sucks up additional bleacher seating or that GA seating gets filled 2.5 hours before opening pitch, in which case, you're still not going to be able to take a family there, and that will be fine. It will still provide a better option on maybe a thursday or sunday SEC game or an SEC weekend that's not a marquee matchup.

I'm alright with getting rid of the berm areas and putting some nice bleacher seating in there. I know the berms came with good intentions, but I don't really know that they are compatible with what we want and need. They are better suited for Florida or some place with less demand.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

While cheap may be an overstatement.. he's not wrong. The dugouts were left in place for financial reasons. And it had consequences.

That was a watershed decision which dictated nearly every other design element of the main structure. You can see one by-product when you look at the slope of the grandstand... most notably how the cast stone caps change angles after the first few rows.

The dugouts dictated the slope of the seats, which in turn dictated how many rows of grandstand could fit in the amount of rise/run we had at our disposal before the elevation of the entrances became awkward. That resulted in a couple of rows being shaved off the upper and lower decks.. otherwise it simply would've been too tall. 1,200 chairs were sacrificed right there.

Leaving the dugouts and first 3 rows also squashed the plans for the Triple Crown Club to have windows facing the field. After floating that idea to potential customers, it was realized the headroom was much too low if the rows were left in place so a business decision was made. It resulted in no viewing from inside.

Very early rough drawings removed the dugouts completely and moved the backstop back 15 feet from it's current location. That would have resulted in viewing angles positioned more toward home plate and put more chairs in the stadium.. but it would have been a larger structure that didn't fit very well between the hump and the baseball office (another item left in place that caused headaches).

Is it the finest stadium in college baseball? Unequivocally, yes. But let's not act like it was built with a blank check and without compromises.

This is filled with truth, and most people don't realize that those are the exact same dugouts we have had since the initial construction back in the 80's. I thought the fact that they decided to leave the dugouts and the backstop wall was a tragedy. I don't know how much money was saved but it would have been worth it to just start all the way from scratch. The good news is that we still have room to extend the upper decks all the way to both fouls poles. You can also add seats in the berm areas all the way to the foul poles (except bullpen area). There might be some options in that right field corner for more GA seating (if it looks good), and maybe something constructed at a high level behind the lounges in right. We have options, but I'll go with my original post. IT WASN"T BUILT BIG ENOUGH..... but it's still the best in College Baseball.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Because football has the ability to sell more season tickets. Baseball does not, or at least chairback season tickets.

Does it?

Or does football average a higher % of capacity for games?

They guy said if we had the same demand for football as baseball we would expand the stadium. I pointed out we do have "the same demand (i.e., one capacity weekend a season), and no one is clamoring for an additional 20,000 $5 General Admission seats at Davis Wade.

And even if we had a hard season ticket sellout in football, and had 20,000 there for non conference, 65,000 for one SEC game, and 45,000 for the others, there is no way we would be clamoring to expand the stadium. But every year, we hear rants about "MSU doesn't care about the common fan"

We have had 3 home SEC Series. The attendance for the Saturday games was 6,152, 4,159, and 13,338. All of those bitching could have watched us play Arkansas or Kentucky and had a seat without an issue.

But instead they want MSU to build a 80,000 seat Davis Wade because they cannot take Grandma and their 2 year old to see Alabama play one every 2 years.

 

[SheltonChoked]

And we would have played home games in 2018 in pearl, or Starkville HS.

 

[Bill Shankly]

The FACT is we nailed it with the Dude. You don't build for the big crowds or the small crowds. You try to hit the sweet spot somewhere in the middle. You want the big games to be hard sell outs. You want people standing on top of each other. You want that atmosphere. The place is electric when it's packed. You also don't want it to seem like a a big old empty cave for the small crowds. I've been in both there (I'm NOT a season ticket holder), they got it about as right as you can get it. This thread just proves what I've always said about MSU fans, we could win an undefeated national championship in some sport and our fans would still ***** about something. We aren't happy unless we are. We have THE best stadium in college baseball and look at us.

 

[Mobile Bay]

That’s kind of where I am at. I’m 5 hours away and thought about coming, but doing either of those two things with a wife and 9 yo was one of the reasons I didn’t come. I don’t see top 10 matchups ending in the near future at Dudy Noble and we pride ourselves on baseball attendance so why wouldn’t we try and maximize our big weekends? I don’t know the intricacies of stadium attendance with regards to supply and demand economics so I’ll defer to the experts on that. But I do believe a better in game experience would draw more GA fans. That’s just my opinion.

It's the distance that keeps me from coming back as well as the finicky nature of baseball scheduling. I make plans to go and with my luck the friday game ends up being played at noon, Saturday is a rainout, and it's two 7 inning games on Sunday. Leaving me stuck in Starkville with nothing to do but watch it rain.

 

[johnson86-1]

Maybe I’m wrong but I think that is not a good way to design the size of a stadium. Why would we build a stadium that had 0% chance for season ticket growth? We didn’t do that with football.

Just a world of difference between football, where most season ticket holders probably make it to six out of seven if not seven out of seven games and baseball, where season ticket holders probably routinely don't make 50% of games. If you give them an option to just buy individual chairbacks, that's what's going to make sense for most of them. Also, season ticket holders in football in good times can recover some money from any game they don't attend (not sure ticketholders can get much for a wednesday night game), and if they want to drop down and by individual tickets, they are getting much worse seating by being in the upper deck, unless they can scalp some tickets.

 

[johnson86-1]

I'm alright with getting rid of the berm areas and putting some nice bleacher seating in there. I know the berms came with good intentions, but I don't really know that they are compatible with what we want and need. They are better suited for Florida or some place with less demand.

Berms are outstanding when you can sit on them. But once you are too crowded for that, they are no good.

 

[johnson86-1]

Does it?

Or does football average a higher % of capacity for games?

They guy said if we had the same demand for football as baseball we would expand the stadium. I pointed out we do have "the same demand (i.e., one capacity weekend a season), and no one is clamoring for an additional 20,000 $5 General Admission seats at Davis Wade.

And even if we had a hard season ticket sellout in football, and had 20,000 there for non conference, 65,000 for one SEC game, and 45,000 for the others, there is no way we would be clamoring to expand the stadium. But every year, we hear rants about "MSU doesn't care about the common fan"

We have had 3 home SEC Series. The attendance for the Saturday games was 6,152, 4,159, and 13,338. All of those bitching could have watched us play Arkansas or Kentucky and had a seat without an issue.

But instead they want MSU to build a 80,000 seat Davis Wade because they cannot take Grandma and their 2 year old to see Alabama play one every 2 years.

I think he was saying football fans can buy season tickets right now. If we had a waiting list to buy season tickets in football, and no reasonable likelihood that more seats were going to become available in the next 5-7 years, then I think people would be clamoring for an expansion of some sort.

But in general, football and baseball are just two different animals and it's hard to compare the approaches to tickets and stadium expansion.

 

[johnson86-1]

I would add chairbacks and sell them as season tickets and then the ones that don’t get sold will be available for single game purchase, just like football does. Obviously sell the single game tickets that didn’t get sold as season tickets (if there are any left) at a higher price on sec weekends. When the stadium was built we were a very good program but since then we have been to multiple World Series and are poised to make a 3rd trip since the season ticket options were available for the new field. Demand is as high as it is ever going to get right now. I’ve heard enough people that know say we are going to expand to feel comfortable that we could sell at least another 1500 season tickets if they were available. I don’t think the administration did anything wrong when they built the stadium I just think we are growing and now need more room. I’m not a fan of the berms, but that’s a pretty minor complaint.

You can't have some people pony up $6k for seating and then sell those same seats without the commitment. Aside from pissing off the people that ponied up, you'll be teaching fans to not pony up next time there is a potential expansion, because if they just wait they can get the same deal without the commitment or even be able to buy seats for individual games directly from the university.

 

[ronpolk]

I think he was saying football fans can buy season tickets right now. If we had a waiting list to buy season tickets in football, and no reasonable likelihood that more seats were going to become available in the next 5-7 years, then I think people would be clamoring for an expansion of some sort.

But in general, football and baseball are just two different animals and it's hard to compare the approaches to tickets and stadium expansion.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. I didn’t make the initial comparison between football and baseball. Shelton asked why people weren’t asking for football to be increase based on 1 or 2 hard sellouts per year. In my opinion, like you said, if football had a waiting list for season tickets there would be a plan to increase capacity. Maybe there is or maybe there isn’t a plan to increase baseball but in my opinion it’s incredibly short sighted to build a stadium for exact amount of demand the day you build it. Someone couldn’t get season tickets now if they wanted it and given the capital commitment that someone else outlined earlier, there are very likely not going to be seats open up anytime soon. That’s a problem to me. I’m not saying we needed to build a 50k stadium but it needed to have room for additional season ticket sales.

 

[Mjoelner]

I still believe there were MORE there vs Mississippi than Clemson though... it was just another level of crazyiness. the Super Regional was amazing but sucked because it was 95-100 degrees with full sun and noone could move.

I agree. The road behind the LFL on SBW that year was packed tighter than the Landing parking lot on a Sunday night before the first day of the semester. I had been out there since '98 and had never seen anywhere close to that many people.

 

[Go Budaw]

GA chairbacks is the worst concept anyone has raised. How do you explain that to the people you asked for a financial committment for season tickets from? Is it even a financial gain? Additionally, at some point someone will go to the university and offer to pay a large amount for those GA chairbacks to be their season tickets. Thats exactly what happened with the Trip Crown chairbacks.

You don’t have to explain anything to those folks, regardless of what expansion plan is set forth. They all got what they paid for....guaranteed reserved seating for 10+ years in a premium area of the stadium. It’s none of their concern how the university decides to allocate future seating, how much they charge, or how much of a commitment they ask for. None of existing season ticket holders were guaranteed that the seats they have would be the only seats ever available in the stadium. None were ever guaranteed that future seating expansions would require the same commitment they made, or more. And honestly, anyone of the season ticket holders that thinks they are entitled to that level of exclusivity can bend way over and literally 17 their own face. Capitalism n ****...

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole of “can’t upset current season ticket holders”, then we never should have even built the damn thing in the first place. Thousands of fans with lifetime seating arrangements in the old stadium and decades of consecutive season tickets pretty much had to start over at the same level as folks who had never purchased chairback season tickets when the new stadium was built.

 

[mcdawg22]

Doing what is necessary to be guaranteed a seat to every home baseball game isn’t easy. For me, it’s required some sacrifice and some planning. When we first expanded the old stadium I had the opportunity to buy a couple of chairbacks and I bought them and I had to purchase the season tickets every year to be able to keep them. When they were planning to build the new stadium I was required to pony up again, and I did. I paid $500 each for my seats originally and paid $600 each when the new stadium was built. I’m not sure how much we have spent for season tickets over the years, but if you added it all up it represents a pretty good sum of money. I just spent $800 back in February for this season as well as $100 for a parking pass. It’s 225 miles one way from my garage to Dudy Noble Field. That round-trip alone is pretty expensive and takes about 8 hours. What I’ll saying is that I look at my chairbacks as an investment. We obviously can’t make every game but we always do our best to make sure someone is using our seats when games are played. The lack of GA seating sucks for sure, and I sympathize with people who want tickets but can’t get them. The only solution is to build more seats but it has to be paid for somehow. For those who hate us chairback seat people, just remember that the new stadium would never have been built without thousands of people agreeing to pony up and invest over the long term.

I don’t hate the chairback crowd at all. It isn’t a us vs them in my eyes. I think bleachers would be a good addition. And I could pay for a seat on the secondary market but I’d rather give my money to the university and of course I’d rather not pay 200 a person for a baseball game. Just an FYI, I donated to the stadium fund with no intention of having seats.

 

[Jddrew1142]

You say the GA is only a problem a few times throughout the year. Thats not how i recall it. Basically every SEC weekend has a full GA house. Granted not all the chairbacks are filled and for some reason we quit allowing people to fill them after a certain inning. And yea your right. I should have made a ten year season ticket commitment when they were building it. Thats pretty hard to do when you are spending 15k a year to get your engineering degree. So just keep in mind, not everybody was born into season tickets like some of you. I just cant understand the hate of anyone wanting to enjoy the greatest sport this university offers.

 

[Go Budaw]

You can't have some people pony up $6k for seating and then sell those same seats without the commitment.

You absolutely can if its the best decision for the financial interests of MSU athletics, the success of our baseball team, and the growth of our regular baseball fanbase as a whole. And also, they aren’t the same seats. They would be worse seats than the seats held by current season ticket holders in the existing grandstand by just about any metric (closeness to action, being in the shade, etc.)

Aside from pissing off the people that ponied up, you'll be teaching fans to not pony up next time there is a potential expansion, because if they just wait they can get the same deal without the commitment or even be able to buy seats for individual games directly from the university.

You mean like the lesson we taught fans when we ripped up their lifetime seating commitments and cancelled their LFL spots in the old stadium....only to see just about all of them re-up at the much higher price tag in the new one? And by the way, I’m fine with the university putting a commitment requirement on at least a certain percentage (if not all) seats in a potential expansion. It probably wouldn’t be much to write home about if we requested the same 10 years as with the existing stadium, but that’s for the university to figure out. The problem that must be addressed is that there are people who want seating (and would pay for it on a season by season basis) that can’t get it.

 

[mcdawg22]

I have a question for the thread. If Swayze expanded and got 16,000, would you want to expand then?

 

[paindonthurt_]

So we built the greatest baseball stadium in college history and we were financially reasonable/responsible and that’s bad?

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Maroon cooler bleacher seating behind right field next to scoreboard would work and upper deck extended with maroon colored bleacher on last sections would work also. I believe Blue Bell has something like this in their upper deck. Those areas would be out of camera view except aerial shots. The drawing above in thread could be used as an example. Part of that upper deck at season ticket chair backs, then maybe a chairback ga plus option available week of game, then maroon nice bleachers behind right field and/or in upper deck last sections. TD has their cheaper seats other than GA set up like that. In upper deck down the foul line pointed withe better eye sight. There are options of providing more GA seating but some would rather just have berms and SRO.

 

[paindonthurt_]

It has nothing to do with wanting to expand or not wanting to.

I’m sure they will expand once it’s feasible.

With Covid last year they, Im sure don’t just have tons of cash laying around.

And as stated 1000 times, they gave everyone 2 17ing years to decide on “demand”.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

You can't have some people pony up $6k for seating and then sell those same seats without the commitment. Aside from pissing off the people that ponied up, you'll be teaching fans to not pony up next time there is a potential expansion, because if they just wait they can get the same deal without the commitment or even be able to buy seats for individual games directly from the university.

We literally do that in every single sport. When we play Alabama this year in football we will have non season ticket holders purchase tickets in the same section that season ticket holders reside because those season tickets didn’t sell out. Same thing in basketball. I honestly don’t think we would have a problem selling out 1500 to 2K extra baseball chairbacks at this point. Especially now that it is clear to everyone that if you don’t have a chairback season ticket you literally have nowhere else to sit.