I personally think how this was handled was wrong. Since AS wants to retain his redshirt and he went to NC and told him, NC could have just said we are starting JL. Lots of drama would have been avoided. If I recall starting QB at I think at major school in Texas out n out said after his 4th game I am entering the Portal and he was their starter
In my opinion once season starts no one should be allowed to enter portal until season is over. By allowing kids to enter mid season it’s the same as allowing them to transfer out. As harsh as it may seem I agree with poster who said pull schollie.
Have high hopes for Cole Snyder. He flashed a little during the Spring game. But he needs to be ready. Wonder if we will see Pacheco in the Wild Knight.Based on NC’s comments that Carter is “still with the program” and “won’t be playing anytime soon” in addition to not being at practice the past 2 weeks makes me think that RU fans may have seen the last of him.
We are down to Langan and Snyder at QB. Tough spot for RU at this point of the season.
Well he's a coddled kid so he knows everything.You are good at the assumption thing.
I was shocked that he played the entire game at Michigan. He was getting pummeled in that game (and many others).
no offense to Sit but I hope we transition to an O that is so far from his skill set he has to transfer.https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...-D-Eriq-King-up-in-air-on-future-14461767.php
And this how #fakenews gets spread.
Houston starting QB King announced he was taking a redshirt after their 4th game and released a statement he was STAYING.
Everyone immediately flipped out and just assumed he was transferring and starting calling him a quitter.
Houston started out 1-3. Makes sense for King to sit and then try to make a run next year.
Until Sitkowski says he is leaving - this is a great development.
Everyone wanted Sit to redshirt anyway.
Said “he needs to sit and learn from the bench.”
Not sure why everyone is complaining now.
Ideally Carter comes back, Langnan only plays in 4 games, Snyder gets action in 4 games.
All 3 of Sit/Snyder/Langnan get a redshirt year.
Why wouldn't he stay at Houston?no offense to Sit but I hope we transition to an O that is so far from his skill set he has to transfer.
That kid is not staying at Houston, no chance. Don't care how many press releases he puts out.
Based on NC’s comments that Carter is “still with the program” and “won’t be playing anytime soon” in addition to not being at practice the past 2 weeks makes me think that RU fans may have seen the last of him.
We are down to Langan and Snyder at QB. Tough spot for RU at this point of the season.
last year he threw for 3000 yards, rushed for 700, and had 50 TD's. He's going to be the top transfer QB out there. I could see him being Oklahoma's next transfer QBWhy wouldn't he stay at Houston?
Will he come to Rutgers as revenge. After all, they flipped our QB recruit Sofian Massoud, who is tearing it up in Texas his senior year.
It's not complicated or mysterious. The kid's had enough. Enough failure. Enough shutouts. Enough getting the crap kicked out of him. Enough instability and changing OC's. . He has withdrawn voluntarily, in the hope/expectation that he can get this season red-shirted so that he can transfer out of this feces flood with 3 seasons intact. Is quitting on the team a disappointment? Of course, a big one. Demoralizing for an already demoralized team.But that's the reality of it.Are we to believe that if Ash and company were still here, he would be playing?
Is the perception of this team that winning is not important?
There is still 67% of the season left!!!
I really hope Langan lights it up and our "redshirt" finds himself another place to place his butt.
Langan does know many of the plays Nunzio might want to run ... his tape looks pretty good. Who knows, maybe an element of a running QB is a good thing. Like Jones running for a TD late vs Tampa. Eli would’ve had an incomplete pass. All I know is I hate when a QB pulls down the ball and runs fora first down. Nice to see a few BY RU for a change.Was anyone at practice earlier this week? Maybe NC did tweak the offense and Langan was getting more run with the first team? Either way, you either play or you walk. This “give him time to process” stuff is a no go for me.
You realize Art hasn't been here for 8 years right? What constant Instability and change?It's not complicated or mysterious. The kid's had enough. Enough failure. Enough shutouts. Enough getting the crap kicked out of him. Enough instability and changing OC's. . He has withdrawn voluntarily, in the hope/expectation that he can get this season red-shirted so that he can transfer out of this feces flood with 3 seasons intact. Is quitting on the team a disappointment? Of course, a big one. Demoralizing for an already demoralized team.But that's the reality of it.
Was not implying anyone was leaving. Think coaches should be ones telling who plays or doesn’t. Kid telling coach hey I don’t want to play sends a bad message. I was taught in sports you play your hardest and try your best EVERY GAME regardless of outcome. Think it’s wrong for kids to bail mid seasonhttps://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...-D-Eriq-King-up-in-air-on-future-14461767.php
And this how #fakenews gets spread.
Houston starting QB King announced he was taking a redshirt after their 4th game and released a statement he was STAYING.
Everyone immediately flipped out and just assumed he was transferring and starting calling him a quitter.
Houston started out 1-3. Makes sense for King to sit and then try to make a run next year.
Until Sitkowski says he is leaving - this is a great development.
Everyone wanted Sit to redshirt anyway.
Said “he needs to sit and learn from the bench.”
Not sure why everyone is complaining now.
Ideally Carter comes back, Langnan only plays in 4 games, Snyder gets action in 4 games.
All 3 of Sit/Snyder/Langnan get a redshirt year.
You realize Art hasn't been here for 8 years right? What constant Instability and change?
I understand your frustration but we live in a new time now. Players will review their options every year now, the same as the coaches. If a player enrolls in Jan of his senior year and redshirts his first year he could potentially be a junior academically and have freshman eligibility when he sees the field. More and more players will attempt to graduate then transfer so they won’t have to sit a year.With that logic the whole team shouldnt play.
It's not complicated or mysterious. The kid's had enough. Enough failure. Enough shutouts. Enough getting the crap kicked out of him. Enough instability and changing OC's. . He has withdrawn voluntarily, in the hope/expectation that he can get this season red-shirted so that he can transfer out of this feces flood with 3 seasons intact. Is quitting on the team a disappointment? Of course, a big one. Demoralizing for an already demoralized team.But that's the reality of it.
Because we needed to make a coaching change. Whenever that happens your lose recruits and have transfers. It will be worse going forward because of the transfer portal. Need to think long tern and hope we get the hire right. Both "top" names have benefits. If it's Schiano it should happen quickly and he can start recruiting and building his brand. If it's Moorhead he will probably sway some of his recruits from Miss state plus some transfers from both Miss St and PSUI hope that the rest of the team plays hard and stays focused. Because when your starting QB quits mid season on his teammates there will be an impact in the locker room. Campy has walked into a tough situation as a HC.
Hope our players stay strong and rise above this. Cause if they go thru the motions starting tomorrow it’s going to be even more ugly than what we’ve witnessed so far.
Why does it always get worse and never better for RU fans?
I hope that the rest of the team plays hard and stays focused. Because when your starting QB quits mid season on his teammates there will be an impact in the locker room. Campy has walked into a tough situation as a HC.
Hope our players stay strong and rise above this. Cause if they go thru the motions starting tomorrow it’s going to be even more ugly than what we’ve witnessed so far.
Why does it always get worse and never better for RU fans?
What if all 105 players took that approach?He shouldn’t play without knowing next coach and the offense they will run and if he will be a part of it.
smarten up people.
What if all 105 players took that approach?
Walk-ons are probably hoping the 85 scholarship players opt out.The results would be s-l-i-g-h-t-l-y worse on the field. LOLOL
Certainly the parents of the Walkons would benefit from that.
This is looking like a total roster rebuild to me. Our facilities have improved to be competitive but the next HC is getting all Ash players. If we see significant improvement in Year 3 going forward then we are on the right track.
we would end the season 1-11 and save a lot of complaining on this board.What if all 105 players took that approach?
#MUCHRESPECT!My opinion is just that. You can disagree but I'm more in tune with the bullsh*t the some of these kids are pulling than someone like you. For the last several years the kids at Rutgers have been playing for self and it reflects in how they respond to changing events around them. When things aren't right they quit on each other. Art was fine with burning his redshirt as long as Ash and McNulty were here. As soon as the they are no longer around, suddenly Art thinks redshirting is his best option. I don't disagree, but it's really a lie to demand it now. Also, several other players are suddenly interested in redshirting. Now these sudden selfish decisions have an impact on teammates who were depending on you. These moves should have been made at the beginning of the season so the team could plan around them. No you are putting other teammates in a position to fail or get injured because they may not be ready, players like Snyder or the other walk-on QB.
I understand the importance of team commitment. My senior year at Rutgers we have several injuries at OLB. Instead of burning the redshirts of some young players, I moved from safety to OLB for a few games until guys returned. I didn't have to move, but I saw the big picture. It wasn't about the coaches. It was about my teammates. I knew what I was getting into when I agreed to that scholarship.
Very well-stated. But times have changed, and young people are different. You don't just see it on football teams. You see it in the workplace every day.
THAT DOESN'T"T MAKE IT RIGHT OR OK IMO.
Someone else may have raised this point, but perhaps Nunzio is looking for the QB to do more running than McNulty did, and maybe this factored into Art's decision.
It is amazing to me that so many people on this board are privy to private conversations between a coach and a player. Did Nunzio say anything to Art which made him feel that he might not be Number 1 quarterback at the end of the season? Art’s decision was not made in a vacuum.
Very well-stated. But times have changed, and young people are different. You don't just see it on football teams. You see it in the workplace every day.
Someone else may have raised this point, but perhaps Nunzio is looking for the QB to do more running than McNulty did, and maybe this factored into Art's decision. I was shocked that he played the entire game at Michigan. He was getting pummeled in that game (and many others).
Yea, I wonder why too. Could it be the constant droning and outright nastiness on this board about the entire coaching staff and the certain players. All you have to do is look into a mirror my friend.I hope that the rest of the team plays hard and stays focused. Because when your starting QB quits mid season on his teammates there will be an impact in the locker room. Campy has walked into a tough situation as a HC.
Hope our players stay strong and rise above this. Cause if they go thru the motions starting tomorrow it’s going to be even more ugly than what we’ve witnessed so far.
Why does it always get worse and never better for RU fans?
There is possibility both were given a strong message they were no longer first choice. It is funnyTHIS would be the only thing that makes sense...so just say that then (not you, them)
Hey Sit..go talk to Tom Savage about his decisions and how he felt afterwards...just saying.
And yet his actual teammates have been defending him online...He abandoned his teammates. Plain and simple.
If Sit feels Nunz wants a dual threat QB next year and he doesn't have the coach's full support, Artur might feel it might be best to use the transfer rules available to him now and not lose a year of eligibility playing for a interim HC that he doesn't fit the system that interim HC wants to play till a new HC is hired.I agree. He's quitting on his teammates, particularly seniors, new coach, fellow students, alums, fans. Good riddance. Just go straight to the portal. I want a dual threat QB and if Nunz is the OC next year, so will he.
He might not feel Dana's offense is helping his pro chances .Why wouldn't he stay at Houston?
Will he come to Rutgers as revenge. After all, they flipped our QB recruit Sofian Massoud, who is tearing it up in Texas his senior year.
Maybe he does not have the right haircut for the head coach?He might not feel Dana's offense is helping his pro chances .
Remember this is Holgorsen's first year at Houston and D'Eriq might not be as happy with him as he was with Herman and Applewhite.
King basically is saying this season is lost, so why play and ruin my NFL 1st round chances.
That , if I'm right speculating that, doesn't bode well for the idea King plans to come back.
But lessens the pressure on Dana by saying he plans to play as a Cougar next year.
If D'Eriq graduates before next season, being a grad transfer makes him moving on the most likely choice , unless Holgorsen turns Houston around from how its playing now (2-3).
There is possibility both were given a strong message they were no longer first choice. It is funny
the interim head coach is now starting his high school player. that is not blind luck.