Wall was right when he told Drake....

JohnKBA

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Dec 2, 2003
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The only reason this series even went 6 is because Toronto didn't have their full complement of players until last night. Washington isn't close to contending - they are buried behind several other east teams for the foreseeable future.
 

EliteBlue

Heisman
Mar 27, 2009
16,751
20,269
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I don’t care if he balled out. Did the Wiz win the series? What seed were they? Not to mention in the East. Wall is a terrific talent, but he’s been in DC for 8 years now and nothing has happened. And he’s got decent talent around him, and playing in the East.
He has average to below average talent around him outside of Beal (who might barely be a top 10 SG).

They were a game from the ECF last year with that terrible roster. That's about their ceiling until they make major changes. They should have pushed all in on bringing KD home to D.C. If they were serious about winning. Idc if you had to trade your entire roster outside of Wall and Beal.

Gortat runs his mouth way too much for a player of his mediocrity. Hopefully they dump Gortat and Morris and somebody else to find space for Boogie if the Pels decide to roll w what they have
 

kb22stang

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Dec 11, 2005
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Wall seems to be the problem in DC. The players have indirectly said that they have more fun and function better when he’s injured.


Wall is a younger version of Carmelo. Uoer talented but he's just not a winner, IMHO.
 

CatColumbia

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Apr 19, 2014
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Horrible comparison. Mello is a ball stopper. Wall is arguably the best distributor in the NBA>

Um no. I can name you 10 guys who are better distributors. Wall wasn't even in the top 10 in assist this year. But according to most on this thread, he isn't the problem. His sucky teammates and All-Star Beal are.
 

Shaudylo

Heisman
Apr 2, 2011
11,532
25,948
112
He isn't top 10 because of missed games numbnuts.
This here Wall didn’t qualify because of games played .

Damian Lillard and Spencer Dinwiddle were tied for 10th assist . Anyone really think they distribute better than Wall? Wall is easily top 3 in distributing the ball you could watch the playoffs and see that
 

Shaudylo

Heisman
Apr 2, 2011
11,532
25,948
112
For the season Wall averaged 9.6 assist a game which would have put him second behind Russell Westbrook.

For the playoffs Wall averaged 11.5 assist this year, 10.3 last year and 11.9 last year .

Please name me 10 guys that can distribute the ball better than John Wall. Good luck with that
 

Big John Stud

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Jan 14, 2003
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Wall is a younger version of Carmelo. Uoer talented but he's just not a winner, IMHO.
Carmelo isn't a winner because he's selfish on offense, and a horrific defender. On top of that he doesnt even play hard. Why is Wall not a winner other than the poorly constructed team around him?
 

Jakarii

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Jan 29, 2016
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He needs a superstar. Wall would make a good number two but won’t be winning a title as a number one. Very few number one talents in the NBA
 

K_TIME

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
18,430
25,789
113
Um no. I can name you 10 guys who are better distributors. Wall wasn't even in the top 10 in assist this year. But according to most on this thread, he isn't the problem. His sucky teammates and All-Star Beal are.
Wall was 3rd in assists per game 3 years ago
Wall was 2nd in assists per game last year
Wall was 2nd in assists per game this year

Please stop posting....you look every less knowledgeable every word you type.
 

jameslee32

Heisman
Mar 26, 2009
33,666
22,359
83
Wall always gives shout outs to Beal on Instagram, pictures of both of them together and calls Beal “his brother.”
Yeah, I saw an interview with Beal that was very complimentary of Wall when he was injured and the backup PG was doing very well for them. Not many guys can do what Wall can do in the open court but like many, I think he settles for too many 3's at times.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Jun 10, 2009
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It’s more than just the statsheet. It’s off the court relationships, the players don’t like the dude. If he didn’t come to UK I’m sure you would be roasting him. Not making Wall to be the bad one, but it’s clear the Wiz players don’t enjoy him being around. The Wall/Beal experiment has run its course.

You seem to have a hate for Wall for being a Cats fan. If they didn't waste 26 million on Porter than they we be right there in the East. Without wall they wouldn't win 30 games.
 

CatColumbia

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You seem to have a hate for Wall for being a Cats fan. If they didn't waste 26 million on Porter than they we be right there in the East. Without wall they wouldn't win 30 games.

No hate at all towards anyone. I just don’t think he’s a top 5 pg in the league. That’s all.
 

Big John Stud

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No hate at all towards anyone. I just don’t think he’s a top 5 pg in the league. That’s all.
You just said that you dont care that he balled out, he lost. You're clearly a hater.

Who are the top 5 PGs in the game?

*Never forget, haters hate specific questions.
 

CatColumbia

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You just said that you dont care that he balled out, he lost. You're clearly a hater.

Again, my personal opinion, Ball out or not I don’t think he’s better than Irving, Curry, Westbrook, Paul and Lillard.

Clearly you are hating on me. Piss off *** whipe.
 

Big John Stud

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Again, my personal opinion, Ball out or not I don’t think he’s better than Irving, Curry, Westbrook, Paul and Lillard.

Clearly you are hating on me. Piss off *** whipe.
But Lillard lost, not only did he lose, he was swept by a lower seed when he had home court advantage.
 

Big John Stud

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And Lillard plays in the West and got his team a 3 seed. Again this is my opinion, I’ve been wrong plenty before.
Wall was injured and missed 41 games, how was he gonna lead the Wiz to anything? Even when he played he was hurt and had to receive injections just to stay on the court.

So is John Wall the 6th best pg in your opinion or is he further down the line because arguing that hes not a top 5 pg but is 6th isnt a great argument.
 

CatColumbia

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Wall was injured and missed 41 games, how was he gonna lead the Wiz to anything? Even when he played he was hurt and had to receive injections just to stay on the court.

So is John Wall the 6th best pg in your opinion or is he further down the line because arguing that hes not a top 5 pg but is 6th isnt a great argument.

He’s the 6th best and what he lacks from the top 5 is an outside shot.
 

AnarchoNeoLuddite_rivals

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Dec 14, 2003
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Wall has irving EVERYWHERE aside from shooting and KI isnt that much better. Wall plays better d by far and as pointed out is an elite passer, whether stats allow you to belive it or not.
 

Big John Stud

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He’s the 6th best and what he lacks from the top 5 is an outside shot.
He shot 37% from 3 this year. Westbrook is a bad outside shooter and Paul and Lillard arent know for their shooting either. Even Magic Johnson was a 30% career shooter from 3 and is considered by many to be the greatest pg ever.
 

white10

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Jan 7, 2005
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It’s more than just the statsheet. It’s off the court relationships, the players don’t like the dude. If he didn’t come to UK I’m sure you would be roasting him. Not making Wall to be the bad one, but it’s clear the Wiz players don’t enjoy him being around. The Wall/Beal experiment has run its course.

Heard the same thanks about Rondo, wherever he went except in New Orleans. Wall has to find the right fit.
 
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