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I'm just not sure why the need to censure. It feels as if Joe is pandering to his caucus while playing the conservative side.

I also have no idea why elected officials have literally no standards as to competence for holding office.
Physicians have to pass medical boards, JD's have to pass the BAR, hell even dental assistants have to have licenses to practice yet politicians can be just that without even basic understanding of the constitution.
Therefore that leads to perversions of interpretation that is convenient to make ones point rather than intent of the document as founders desired.
 
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There's so much bullsh*t here, I'm not sure where to start.

lets just go with the extortion part... the facts are that the aid was delivered on time and there is absolutely no evidence of a quid pro quo. there's more of evidence of biden actually extroting the ukranians but he's on your team so...
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Sondland and Mulvaney both admitted there was QPQ.
 
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moe said:
Sondland and Mulvaney both admitted there was QPQ.
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The entire basis of this debacle should concern EVERY american.
Being accused of something by an anonymous person whom has no first hand knowledge of the events surrounding the accusation and is basing their accusation on hearsay is the exact kind of situation the founders were attempting to get away from "In Order to Form a More Perfect Union".
 
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I voted for Bernie Sanders; then Hillary, Donna Brazil and that nut job congress woman from Florida beat him out of the nomination by fixing the debate answers and fixing the election votes. Bernie cowared in the corner like an eeeensy, teeensy leeetl baby and let her walk all over him. Bernie gonna fix the economy
 
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edmd007 said:
The entire basis of this debacle should concern EVERY american.
Being accused of something by an anonymous person whom has no first hand knowledge of the events surrounding the accusation and is basing their accusation on hearsay is the exact kind of situation the founders were attempting to get away from "In Order to Form a More Perfect Union".
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The IG determined that the whistleblower's allegations were credible and of "urgent concern".

The Whistleblower Complaint Has Largely Been Corroborated. Here's How
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/09/7761...laint-has-largely-been-corroborated-heres-how

https://thehill.com/policy/national...ngs-to-know-about-the-whistleblower-complaint
 
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Irwineer2 said:
its called hearsay.

and when pressed for proof neither admitted they had any. probably didn't catch that part on msnbc.
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They both spoke directly with the POTUS. That's first hand evidence, you don't need taped recordings of the conversations.
 
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moe said:
The IG determined that the whistleblower's allegations were credible and of "urgent concern".

The Whistleblower Complaint Has Largely Been Corroborated. Here's How
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/09/7761...laint-has-largely-been-corroborated-heres-how

https://thehill.com/policy/national...ngs-to-know-about-the-whistleblower-complaint
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moe said:
The IG determined that the whistleblower's allegations were credible and of "urgent concern".

Largely corroborated is not completely corroborated. The other article is from Sept 2019 and does not deploy facts. Again, missing the point that unfounded accusations and hearsay should not be able to trigger such a tax payer funded event that will ultimately lead to nothing.
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This is a sports board dude. So keep you DC bubble thoughts to yourself. Nobody cares about your politics.
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In fairness I started the thread on the wrong board (Blue Lot) and garnered responses there. This is on the OT board now.
 
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moe said:
They both spoke directly with the POTUS. That's first hand evidence, you don't need taped recordings of the conversations.
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sondland's exact words were "he was presuming" that's what trump said. all of their testimony falls apart under questioning. sondland never testified that trump told him he wanted a quid pro quo.

 
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Joe is a common sense kind of politician......not a far left or far right nut. I like him and agree with most of his positions.
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I'm sorry but he is a fence riding, which way is the wind blowin, what is in MY best interest, how do I get re-elected scum bag......just like almost all of them, left or right.
 
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Irwineer2 said:
sondland's exact words were "he was presuming" that's what trump said. all of their testimony falls apart under questioning. sondland never testified that trump told him he wanted a quid pro quo.

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Not going to retry the case with you. Any fair minded person can see what the POTUS was doing, it's not real complicated. The POTUS was right as it's all in the call transcript.
 
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moe said:
Not going to retry the case with you. Any fair minded person can see what the POTUS was doing, it's not real complicated. The POTUS was right as it's all in the call transcript.
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Where in the transcript?
 
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edmd007 said:
The entire basis of this debacle should concern EVERY american.
Being accused of something by an anonymous person whom has no first hand knowledge of the events surrounding the accusation and is basing their accusation on hearsay is the exact kind of situation the founders were attempting to get away from "In Order to Form a More Perfect Union".
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Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).


Irwineer2 said:
its called hearsay.

and when pressed for proof neither admitted they had any. probably didn't catch that part on msnbc.
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LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).




LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
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Literally everything you just wrote is a lie.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).




LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
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more bs... the aid was delivered on time.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).




LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
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Cunty lying again.
countryroads89 said:
Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).




LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
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Stop embarrassing yourself moron.
 
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moe said:
Not going to retry the case with you. Any fair minded person can see what the POTUS was doing, it's not real complicated. The POTUS was right as it's all in the call transcript.
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"More flexibility after the election".....just saying, be fair across the baord....this was hearsay and that was blatant
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yet every aspect of the whistle blower’s claims were corroborated by other witnesses. Even the guy who bought an Ambassador’s position for $1 million said there was a QPQ. Career professionals confirmed the delay in aid. The GAO stated the Impoundment Control Act was violated (that is a law for you trumpers).




LOL. It’s not hearsay. 17 people testified about the delay in aid and said it was because the President wanted a personal favor and also testified everyone knew about the intentional delay and the reason behind the delay. Hell, the orange moron admitted on national television on the White House lawn that he wanted his political opponent investigated.

trumpers are idiots.
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The HIV is rotting your brain.

 
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moe said:
POTUS released the aid when the whistleblower's complaint came out and exposed the scam.
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Moe several Senate committees are about to investigate Biden. Expect criminal referrals.
 
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countryroads89 said:
No. The aid passed security clearance In May. The aid was released on September 11.

You support a lying piece of **** con man.
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Sept 11 is before it was due. Sorry you were lied to and you are dumb enough to repeat it.
 
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countryroads89 said:
No. The aid passed security clearance In May. The aid was released on September 11.

You support a lying piece of **** con man.
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moe said:
POTUS released the aid when the whistleblower's complaint came out and exposed the scam.
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you guys got the scam right and its not being run by trump. september 11 was well before the release date. this has been nothing more than another political attack (remember the russia scam?)

you have both posted nothing but bullsh*t. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
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