USM headed toward

MSUDC11-2.0

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Would be 4th 1-11 or worse in 15 years. What about Jay Hopson. Somehow he had 4 winning seasons there. Seriously that may be the worst program in I-A.
I say they’re going 1-11, looking at their schedule they MIGHT have a chance for a win against ULM (currently 0-5).

The thing about Hopson is they fired his rear end after one game in 2020. Never had a losing season there and got fired in 2020 before State and Ole Miss had even started their seasons..

Looks pretty dang stupid now.
 

eckie1

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That place is an amalgam of Co-Lin, Perk and Purrrhh River all Livin’ theyyy best life in the big city.*****

At State’s orientation this summer, we met some folks from NJ whose daughter wanted to go to school down south. They didn’t even look at USM because their demographics are only from about a 90 mile radius.

That school simply cannot remain in FBS much longer. Their fan simply doesn’t invest enough in the school.
 
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If I’m remembering correctly, Hopson wanted to hire Art Briles but was shot down by the then president who was extremely unpopular and eventually run off. Anyway, after that, I think Hopson had a burr in his *** and butted heads with his superiors. I could be totally off on this but that is how I remember it.

One thing I do know; as bad of problems that MSU has had with presidents and ad’s in the past, it doesn’t come remotely close to usm’s leadership problems. NOT EVEN ON THE SAME PLANET CLOSE.
 
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MSUDC11-2.0

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Most USM people consider 2012-2014 the dark days (they went 4-32 in that stretch so I get it), but the 2020’s haven’t been much better for them. This will be their fifth season of 3 wins or fewer since they fired Hopson at the beginning of the 2020 season.
 

Barkman Turner Overdrive

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May 28, 2006
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That place is an amalgam of Co-Lin, Perk and Purrrhh River all Livin’ theyyy best life in the big city.*****

At State’s orientation this summer, we met some folks from NJ whose daughter wanted to go to school down south. They didn’t even look at USM because their demographics are only from about a 90 mile radius.

That school simply cannot remain in FBS much longer. Their fan simply doesn’t invest enough in the school.
"Southern Miss: Mississippi's Suitcase College!" or "Southern Miss: Your high school after high school" should be their marketing slogans.
 
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615dawg

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Jun 4, 2007
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USM is a Southern version of a Northern hockey school. They have baseball fans that are fans of LSU or Alabama in football.

I'd agree that they need to have the conversations about moving to FCS (most of the Sun Belt should), but I've seen talk of their Twitter fans on expanding their stadium.
 

Maroon13

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NIL is going to set their athletics way back. They have next to nothing to offer in NIL from what I hear.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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Sep 30, 2022
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What is the difference in USM and every other G6 school? By and large, none of them have any money. I see no reason for them to go FCS. That's just wishful thinking.

Troy doesn't have any more money than they do. Sounds to me like their coach just sucks or they are just in a down period.
 
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was21

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I say they’re going 1-11, looking at their schedule they MIGHT have a chance for a win against ULM (currently 0-5).

The thing about Hopson is they fired his rear end after one game in 2020. Never had a losing season there and got fired in 2020 before State and Ole Miss had even started their seasons..

Looks pretty dang stupid now.
Thought he resigned. He wanted to hire Art Briles and got on the wrong side of the then school president for one thing.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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What is the difference in USM and every other G6 school? By and large, none of them have any money. I see no reason for them to go FCS. That's just wishful thinking.

Troy doesn't have any more money than they do. Sounds to me like their coach just sucks or they are just in a down period.
A quick Google AI shows Troy at about $39M and USM at about $33.5M. About 16% more. Not huge, but it's significant. I suspect USM athletic revenues & expenditures are near the bottom of the Sunbelt.
 

Choctaw Dawg

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There still isn't an excuse for them to be at least competitive. What NIL differences is there between them and "insert any Sun Belt school besides maybe JMU here?" $25?

Really piss poor leadership there with athletics and academics. Doesn't help with the school demographics being what they are heavily skewing female. Those women are heading up to Tuscaloosa, Starkville, and Baton Rouge on the weekends to see their men up there and not ever keeping interest with Southern as soon as they hit the door at graduation.
 
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