Updated Bracketology
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I don't get why there's such a worry with the UT loss. The few days before this game almost everyone was saying we would have to have a game like the KU game to win. Most ppl by far thought we were going to lose this one and then when we do we all act like the season is lost. UT had a great game. they are ranked 14th in the nation with a great defense. Every team in the top ten will lose another game before selection Sunday. UK is in as good a shape as any other team in the top 10. The only thing that stands between UK and a title is luck, health and Cals coaching. We could win it all or lose in the SS and the UT game has nothing to with either. One or two seed really makes no difference. I think a 3 or 4 begins to matter.
I think the 1 seeds will stay as they are. Almost certain based on resumes and remaining schedules. Zags, Auburn, Zona, Kansas. Unless someone gets upset a couple of times. But they all can afford 1-2 more losses.
I also think it’s almost set that 5 teams will battle for the 4 2 seeds. Again unless a team really falters. UK, Duke. Purdue, Baylor, Texas Tech.
I think there is separation between the top 9 teams at the moment yay would require those teams to lose maybe 3 more games before it would really change.
I also think it’s almost set that 5 teams will battle for the 4 2 seeds. Again unless a team really falters. UK, Duke. Purdue, Baylor, Texas Tech.
I think there is separation between the top 9 teams at the moment yay would require those teams to lose maybe 3 more games before it would really change.
KU has KenPom #3 SOS, UK #36.
KU is 8-3 in Quad 1 games, UK is 5-5
1 game is not going to make or break any teams resume.
Currently Duke would be in the West if they truly are the number 8 team. How many of you think that they will not be in Philadelphia? Is there anybody?
If auburn wins out they are locked in @#1 overall. Lose @ UT they fall could fall to #2 if Arizona wins out.
If Arizona wins out they will be ahead of Gonzaga.
If Kansas wins out, it will be a coin flip between them and Gonzaga for 3/4, but that is unlikely.
If Kansas loses @ Baylor they will still be in line for the 4th 1 seed unless UK or Purdue win out. If they lose @ Baylor and @TCU, then the 4th 1 seed is open to UK and Purdue even if they finish the year with another loss. Baylor could get back in the mix too. If Baylor wins out they will be 11-4 in Quad 1 games.
Ksnsas losing to TCU is very possible. Due to covid, their first matchup was rescheduled. Ku has to play 4 games in 8 days. Sat @Baylor, Tues @TCU, Thurs vs TCU and Sat vs Texas.
If they go 3-1 in that stretch their NET will improve. But 2-2 is probably more likely if Remy Martin is still out.
I agree, and this is the same reason we are ranked over Duke despite them having 1 less loss and having beaten UK head to head. People on here want to go ape crap over KU being ahead of us but have no issue with UK being ahead of Duke.
If Duke wins out they will be the one seed in the east. Even if they get to the ACC final and lose on a Saturday, they will still likely be the one seed in the east. Now if they lose. I guess the other alternative is yours where Arizona passes Gonzaga and Gonzaga is sent to the east as the one and Duke the two.
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The Duke game was not mid to late season on Kentucky's home floor.
Today's Bracketology (2/18/2022) has UK as a 2 seed in the East (Indy first rd) with KU as the 1 seed. Yes, all day yes.
You are probably right. Their early wins over UK and Zaga will help the committee ignore how bad the ACC is and their lack of quality wins in the last 2 months.
Quad 1 is a joke. A win at St Louis is a quad 1, just like a win by 18 at KU is.
And the reason KU has a better SOS, is simply because they didn't schedule a bunch of teams in Nov/Dec that were sub 300, but their cupcakes were still cupcakes. Our conference schedule is easily more difficult than theirs is.
And they have to go play @ UVA next week, a team that already beat them in Cameron.
They should be embarrassed that they have even lost a single game in that **** league. Heck, they've lost to Miami and UVA at home and neither is expected to make the tournament.
Nobody is going "ape crap".
However:
1) duke beat UK, by 8 points, in the first game of the season on a neutral court… fact
2) duke has lost 2 games at home, both to unranked teams that most likely won't make the tournament. Fact
3) UK's win IN LAWRENCE, is recent, it was by 18 points and it was not only an 8 point win. Fact
When you look at the true facts, the situations can't be any different. There is a legit case for UK to have the 1 seed over KU and honestly, I don't see how anyone could say different.
Take this in a heartbeat
I don't put anything into bracketology, even though we all play the game and have our bracket projections, at least, for those of us that have fun with college basketball...
and looking at Lunardi's bracket there....
all i can say is : that region for Kentucky would be about as much a GREAT DREAM from the selection committee as I ever could wish or hope for.
Win or lose, and something tells me we would be winning that region.... I'd take it in a heartbeat.
Getting a 1 or 2 seed is as good as you can hope for, but to get that wet dream of a regional placed in our laps... means ... you know it will never happen...
but that is an awesome bracket for us right there....
Thanks, Joe !
I don't put anything into bracketology, even though we all play the game and have our bracket projections, at least, for those of us that have fun with college basketball...
and looking at Lunardi's bracket there....
all i can say is : that region for Kentucky would be about as much a GREAT DREAM from the selection committee as I ever could wish or hope for.
Win or lose, and something tells me we would be winning that region.... I'd take it in a heartbeat.
Getting a 1 or 2 seed is as good as you can hope for, but to get that wet dream of a regional placed in our laps... means ... you know it will never happen...
but that is an awesome bracket for us right there....
Thanks, Joe !
The worst team in the Big 12 has a Ken pom rating of 63. So KU plays 18 conf games against teams in the top 68. 6 conf games against top 14 teams. UK plays 11 conference games against teams in the top 68. UK plays 5 conf games against the top 16, but also plays 4 games vs teams ranked 75-100 and 3 games against teams outside the top 100.
That’s great and all, but there's a reason why the SEC won the challenge and there's a reason why the SEC has 2 teams in line for a 1 seed with Tennessee not far behind.
The BIG12 is a damn good conference, but the bottom line is, Self did a better job scheduling stronger opponents in Nov/Dec.
It also doesn't help that the SEC doesn’t play a round robin, getting Auburn at home would have been huge.
I think when people like Lunardi update like this on a daily basis, they tend to put too much weight on the last game and completely miss the bigger picture.
Hence a reason why he's not really all that good as his job.
Hence a reason why he's not really all that good as his job.
I’m ok with sitting some of our players going into the tournament 100% healthy. Alabama, LSU, and Florida were all physical games previously.
Right. Unless there are 2 or 3 teams very similar on the seed cutoff line. Zags Zona and Auburn are solid 1s and a loss or two likely doesnt change that. BUT Ku, UK, and Purdue are all similar so that game to game results may shift one of those teams between 1 and 2. Now if UK loses tomorrow and falters it won’t matter. Same thing happening with Baylor and Texas Texh and maybe Wisconsin on the 2/3 line
Can you find one objective rating(kenpom, net, rpi, etc..) that has tbe SEC ahead of the Big12 in conf ratings, or UK with a tougher conf schedule than KU.
But it’s been pointed out that the reason why the Big 12 shows so well in these ratings has to do with the bottom teams The SEC match up very well with at the top and even the middle. The only reason the Big 12 is rated higher in Kenpom is because they don’t have any Georgia’s Vandys etc etc.
It’s a numbers issue IMO. If the Big 12 had 16 teams instead of just 10 there would no doubt be teams that are poorly rated. You wouldn’t have 16 decently rated teams.
The ratings are flawed because the BIG12 doesn’t have as many teams and the bottom half of their league is simply stronger than teams like UGA, Ole Miss and S Carolina.
But the top and middle of the SEC is much stronger and that's not debatable.