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Caliknight

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C'mon we can do better than that. That looks worse than high school.

Those are putrid. They are the uniforms you wear when you have no juice with Nike and they just give you the most basic uniform with no thought.

Ash will do better.
 

WhiteBus

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So here is your proof, from March 25th article by Dan Duggan for the Star ledger.
Here is the exact quote Tuesday from a Chris Ash interview with him.
"It was terrible" Ash said during the interview" The times I coached against Rutgers, that was like
the number one thing: When you're trying to identify personnel coming in the game
amd you can't see the damn numbers." Duggan went on to say although Ash did not give details
about the uniforms, Ash said the specifics will be announced after spring practice. He stated he
has a specific style in mind. He went on saying " I just look at: does Ohio State have 15 unifoms?
No. does Alabama? No. does USC No. does Michigan? No." Ash said. "You look at some of the
traditional best football programs around the country, and they have an identifiable,
clean, first-class look, and that's what I want us to have."

I just love how this guy speaks his mind, he didn't say it's a work in progress,
or I'm still chopping. He tells it how it is.

Not only does he speak his mind, it's what he says. Admits that as a coach he couldn't read the numbers sure puts to rest the power ranger fans that there was nothing wrong with them.
And that fact he wants a "classic" look is music to my ears.
 

ArminRU

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Those are putrid. They are the uniforms you wear when you have no juice with Nike and they just give you the most basic uniform with no thought.

Ash will do better.

Agreed.

I'm more shocked that people think those look good. :confused:
 

Ataylor1989x

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One thing I think about as Rutgers moves back to a simple, more classic look is if the numbers will be block or rounded (matching the Rutgers block font, and the retired 52 jersey number that overlooks HPSS).

(Compare 2011 to 2006 here.....2011 makes the most sense (white helmet notwithstanding)
http://www.onthebanks.com/2015/7/10/8895629/friday-fives-best-rutgers-football-uniforms

I always admired how the Chicago Bears have kept the rounded numbers as their signature look all these years.
 
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Tango Two

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You are making an assumption the helmets are going to be red.
Nowhere has anyone said that


We are going back to a more classic look.
Home= Red helmet, Red Jersey, White Pants.
Road= White Helmet (I think he said), White Jersey, White Pants.
Chrome, Silver, Grey eliminated, and minimal use of black.
 

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We are going back to a more classic look.
Home= Red helmet, Red Jersey, White Pants.
Road= White Helmet (I think he said), White Jersey, White Pants.
Chrome, Silver, Grey eliminated, and minimal use of black.
Where is that quote of "what he said"? I gave not seen that anywhere. So don't spread stuf unless you have a source
 

Ataylor1989x

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Where is that quote of "what he said"? I gave not seen that anywhere. So don't spread stuf unless you have a source

Tango Two legitimately knows people involved with the athletic dept. in fact, the identity of his source is very, very obvious, based on the wording he used. This is not State Department secrets. Those of you doubting him aren't reading close enough.....
 
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Red is the most difficult color to get correct. And if you're not careful it can look cheap. It's really an issue of Chemistry. As common a color as red is, name a school that does red properly. Maybe tOSU, but even that is up for debate.
 
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Red is the most difficult color to get correct. And if your not careful it can look cheap. It's really an issue of Chemistry. As common a color as red is, name a school that does red properly. Maybe tOSU, but even that is up for debate.

I'm more fascinated in how good some schools are at unifying the exact shade of red they want.

Stanford and Wisconsin are using cardinal.

Indiana like Oklahoma is using Crimson.....but during the 80s and 90s, most of the Hoosier teams were using a shade closer to the shade that Nebraska uses. Ohio State and Rutgers are supposed to be both using Scarlet.....which supposedly has tones of orange in it. https://brand.osu.edu/color/
 

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Tango Two legitimately knows people involved with the athletic dept. in fact, the identity of his source is very, very obvious, based on the wording he used. This is not State Department secrets. Those of you doubting him aren't reading close enough.....
Fair enough. I'm not in the know. I apologize @Tango Two I would just hate to see rumors start
 
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I'm more fascinated in how good some schools are at unifying the exact shade of red they want.

Stanford and Wisconsin are using cardinal.

Indiana like Oklahoma is using Crimson.....but during the 80s and 90s, most of the Hoosier teams were using a shade closer to the shade that Nebraska uses. Ohio State and Rutgers are supposed to be both using Scarlet.....which supposedly has tones of orange in it. https://brand.osu.edu/color/

Pantone has exact color formulations for each team. But I also noted that these formulations have changed over the years. This is one of those areas, Hobbs needs to dig in and get right.

Credit Schiano for the Block R. Hobbs needs to get this color correct. Personally, I prefer a deeper darker red, closer to blood red. The current Orange/Red is brutal.
 
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Tango Two

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Pantone has exact color formulations for each team. But I also noted that these formulations have changed over the years. This is one of those areas, Hobbs needs to dig in and get right.

Credit Schiano for the Block R. Hobbs needs to get this color correct. Personally, I prefer a deeper darker red, closer to blood red. The current Orange/Red is brutal.


The Pantone® color system equivalent for Rutgers scarlet is Pantone® 186.

Pantone® is a worldwide standard system for designating colors.

Official Color: We Are Scarlet
 
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The original blessing given by Rutgers College in 1900 was that scarlet was defined as 65% blood red and 35% cadmium orange to give it its brightness.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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As football fans, you should worry about EVERYTHING.

Now if someone is more worried about uniforms than those things then perhaps they have lost their focus.
Oregon is a great example of this. People laughed at them with their uniform changes and billboards in times square and other marketing moves... But coupled with competent coaching, they built something nice.
 
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Oregon is a great example of this. People laughed at them with their uniform changes and billboards in times square and other marketing moves... But coupled with competent coaching, they built something nice.

The unprecedented level of investment in facilities thanks to Phil Knight would have to be biggest factor in my book. I know, we can factor that as part of marketing and branding, it just bears mentioning.

http://deadspin.com/oregons-new-football-performance-center-is-a-decadent-975295515
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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This is Rutgers' scarlet:

Official Color: We Are Scarlet
Give it a rest tango.

Pantone 186 was selected for PRINT purposes. Like signs, letterhead, etc. You do not want an especially bright red for that purpose. It makes things harder to read. But for uniforms for the SCARLET KNIGHTS? You want it to be bright bright red.

This has been explained many times. That color swatch is a particular ink on a particular surface. Every combination is different. The pantone system helps make sure different products will have the same color perception. But it has real limits.

Uniforms are seen indoors, outdoors, in photo shoots, under every type of natural and artificial light. You cannot simply say Pantone 186 and become with it... Especially with fabrics.
 

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Give it a rest tango.

Pantone 186 was selected for PRINT purposes. Like signs, letterhead, etc. You do not want an especially bright red for that purpose. It makes things harder to read. But for uniforms for the SCARLET KNIGHTS? You want it to be bright bright red. This has been explained many times. That color swatch is a particular ink on a particular surface. Every combination is different. The pantone system helps make sure different products will have the same color perception. But it has real limits. Uniforms are seen indoors, outdoors, in photo shoots, under every type of natural and artificial light. You cannot simply say Pantone 186 and become with it... Especially with fabrics.

Well that was a colorful reply.

(Sorry.... sorry. just couldn't help myself.... sorry.)
 

RUChoppin

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Both Rutgers and Nebraska say to use Pantone 186 for print media, as does Maryland.

For web, though, they differ:

Rutgers: R204 G0 B51
Nebraska: R208 G0 B0
Maryland: R224 G58 B62
 

tico brown

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Oregon is a great example of this. People laughed at them with their uniform changes and billboards in times square and other marketing moves... But coupled with competent coaching, they built something nice.
Don't forget the Multimillion Dollar facilities Nike builds for them in what it seems like every year.
 

RUScrew85

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Nebraska looks like us.

We were red first...

You sure about that? I believe the Chanticleers used Orange - and maybe the Knights did in the beginning. Some one with better recall can fill in the details. But don't assume we were the Scarlet Scarlet Knights since the first Princeton game. It's changed a time or two over the years.
 

RUScrew85

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Here's an idea - to placate the geezers in our fanbase (which is to say 80% of ScarletNation), Nike ought to come out with clear polycarbonate helmets with translucent silicone padding. That way, it'll look like the players are not wearing any headgear, just like back in the late Triassic when our fans were young.

A stupid idea and you insult your betters. Nice double play there.
 

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While the uniforms have featured scarlet, black and white in their make-up, Rutgers has only one official color - scarlet. It was first proposed in the Targum and ratified by almost all the students at daily services in Kirkpatrick Chapel on May 17, 1869 and made official by the school administration in January, 1900. They defined the color scarlet as a mix of 85% blood red and 15% cadmium orange.

Scarlet was the replacement choice for a school color but not the first in Rutgers history. The actual first selection of a school color was hated by the students. The 1878 May Targum remembered, “For early in the fall of ’67, the students manifested a growing desire for some particular color that might represent the united taste of the College and produce the same patriotic emotion in the breast of every alumnus. Our colors first adopted were orange, white and blue [in honor of the Dutch tri-color flag] , in pursuance of a suggestion of Jan Steen, a renowned Dutchman in Rutgers.” The 1867 February Targum mentioned the colors chosen by both the undergraduates of Rutgers College and the newly formed Scientific School (later Cook College of Rutgers University) were yellow, blue and white.

 
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Tango Two

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You sure about that? I believe the Chanticleers used Orange - and maybe the Knights did in the beginning. Some one with better recall can fill in the details. But don't assume we were the Scarlet Scarlet Knights since the first Princeton game. It's changed a time or two over the years.


At 3 p.m. on that memorable afternoon, the 50 combatants and about 100 spectators gathered on the field. Most of the assemblage sat on a low wooden fence and watched the athletes doff hats, coats and vests and use suspenders as belts. To distinguish themselves from the bareheaded visitors, 50 Rutgers students, including players, donned scarlet-colored scarfs which they converted into turbans.

http://www.scarletknights.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/first-game.html
 
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Sir ScarletKnight

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While the uniforms have featured scarlet, black and white in their make-up, Rutgers has only one official color - scarlet. It was first proposed in the Targum and ratified by almost all the students at daily services in Kirkpatrick Chapel on May 17, 1869 and made official by the school administration in January, 1900. They defined the color scarlet as a mix of 85% blood red and 15% cadmium orange.

Scarlet was the replacement choice for a school color but not the first in Rutgers history. The actual first selection of a school color was hated by the students. The 1878 May Targum remembered, “For early in the fall of ’67, the students manifested a growing desire for some particular color that might represent the united taste of the College and produce the same patriotic emotion in the breast of every alumnus. Our colors first adopted were orange, white and blue [in honor of the Dutch tri-color flag] , in pursuance of a suggestion of Jan Steen, a renowned Dutchman in Rutgers.” The 1867 February Targum mentioned the colors chosen by both the undergraduates of Rutgers College and the newly formed Scientific School (later Cook College of Rutgers University) were yellow, blue and white.


Source, someday you've just GOT to tell me where you get this stuff from.
 

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Most info can be found with a little digging at the Rutgers University archives which are located in the main Rutgers Library (Alexander Library) New Brunswick.
 
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We are going back to a more classic look.
Home= Red helmet, Red Jersey, White Pants.
Road= White Helmet (I think he said), White Jersey, White Pants.
Chrome, Silver, Grey eliminated, and minimal use of black.

I'd prefer scarlet red helmet on the road with white jersey & white pants
 

Sir ScarletKnight

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Most info can be found with a little digging at the Rutgers University archives which are located in the main Rutgers Library (Alexander Library) New Brunswick.

I know that. But to be able to find all that on a (relative) moment's notice is impressive.
 

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C'mon we can do better than that. That looks worse than high school.
What's so much that needs to be better? These are actually Scarlet and state Rutgers. RU doesn't need terrible uniforms as if they're a team from a renegade football movie.
 

ArminRU

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What's so much that needs to be better? These are actually Scarlet and state Rutgers. RU doesn't need terrible uniforms as if they're a team from a renegade football movie.

They look old and cheap. I don't love the new ones, but at least they have a modern look. There is a way to have a modern yet traditional look, the old uniforms are not that.
 
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Here's a clue:

Before the spring game they're having a sale on apparel and it includes game worn jerseys and helmets.
 

ArminRU

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I guess this isn't a shocker by now, but looks like the helmets are changing based on the latest posters from RUAthletics

 
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